MRP / Trib. The MRP/Tribunal Thread - 2024 Edition

[Westend]

yeah typical

 

[Balls In]

At least Harley is well on his way to hating the one eyed VFL as much as the rest of us.

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Or he will be made aware this will stop once he's in the Black and White.

 

[plays tall 1]

I think we need to consider getting alternative legal representation, if that’s the best we can do. We seem so passive when it comes to confronting the AFL.

I think we erred by conceding it was medium impact. Since there was no injury whatsoever, why not argue it was low (or even negligible contact)? At least make it more difficult for the AFL. And in that way, if there is to be an upgrading for potential injury, perhaps it would be from the lowest contact rating.

And why concede that it had the potential to cause injury? Why not put the AFL to proof of that? Who cares if it extends the hearing by 2 hours and costs more? It’d be interesting to watch them squirm around previous incidents, many of which have gone totally unpunished. We had heavy rain in the week leading up which may have softened the ground and may have reduced the potential for injury.

And did we try the good bloke defence? It seems baseless under the regulations but Andrew Dillon says it’s kosher so everyone should be making that submission, albeit in adapted form. He’s a first year player with no priors, trying to adapt to playing in a league where the rules change weekly (by the AFL’s admission) under the pressure of unprecedented media scrutiny.

The subjectivity around the upgrading for potential to cause injury is the biggest problem. Hopefully the Eagles call that out publicly to at least embarrass the AFL.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

"Remember this one tackle that was noticeable for being out of sync with every other decision the tribunal has made in the past 18 months"

Couldn't be bothered going further back than R23 last year. Harley's had potential to cause injury and is worth two weeks, and none of these are. Copy that, clear as mud.

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[Godfather32]

Totally. They're remarkably consistent, the AFL. Don't drive people's heads into the floor in sling tackles or you get two+ weeks. Message has been sent loud and clear.

As an aside, this new angle of Harley's tackle I found pretty informative.



The standard is that pinning the arms and driving the head is a one week, which can even come down to zero in a really bizarre good bloke clause that is never to be repeated. Arms free, no injury, no missed time, no delayed symptoms is simply not two.

The fact that the same tribunal let Cameron off from this tackle and upheld a 2 week suspension for Harley is definitive proof of how corrupt this organisation is. What a f**king joke

 

[Mudguts12]

Or he will be made aware this will stop once he's in the Black and White.

It depends how badly the AFL and Victorian media want to engineer this outcome during his early WCE career, and if we're just going to lay down and take it.

He doesn't exactly strike me as a 'if you can't beat them, join them' type.

 

[sharps24]

Just read that Darren glass is on the tribunal panel.
Is that true? I wonder how he saw all this bullshit.

Considering he was forced out of a cushy job to go wash windows or whatever he's doing I'm not sure he's overly invested in the whole bleeding blue and gold thing.

 

[Barrybran]

The fact that the same tribunal let Cameron off from this tackle and upheld a 2 week suspension for Harley is definitive proof of how corrupt this organisation is. What a f**king joke

It is certainly going to be difficult for the AFL to justify this one. I'm sure they'll just dance around it as usual.

 

[Ochre]

"Remember this one tackle that was noticeable for being out of sync with every other decision the tribunal has made in the past 18 months"
Couldn't be bothered going further back than R23 last year. Harley's had potential to cause injury and is worth two weeks, and none of these are. Copy that, clear as mud.

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King sling may attract MRO attention

Max King is penalised for a dangerous tackle on Alex Pearce late in the final term

www.afl.com.au

Zero weeks

Vlastuin dangerous tackle leads to Wilson soccer finish

Nick Vlastuin is penalised for a dangerous tackle before Darcy Wilson dribbles through a clever major

www.afl.com.au

Which tackle in there does the players head hit the ground with as much force as Wilson did, cause I'm not seeing one

 

[Balls In]

It depends how badly the AFL and Victorian media want to engineer this outcome during his early WCE career, and if we're just going to lay down and take it.

He doesn't exactly strike me as a 'if you can't beat them, join them' type.

Don't underestimate the vAFL. Saturday was probably the most one sided worst treatment of a player by officialdom in a half of footy I've ever seen. He's 19 and was scragged without protection and instead had 4 frees paid against (including the goal from a ridiculous down field free kick that sealed the game). On top of that they fined him $4000 for "negligent" contact with umpires and now they have rubbed him out for two weeks.

 

[twce13]

Shocked to be here

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Which tackle in there does the players head hit the ground with as much force as Wilson did, cause I'm not seeing one

Take your pick.

Barrass/Walters.
Libba/Day.
McCreery/Wilmot.
Vlaustin/Wilson (slightly less head impact, instead going neck first and got zero).

Nearly all of them have the arm pinned and all go head/neck first. Potential to cause injury in none of these instances.

Talking head impact on the floor? Cerra/Hickey. One game:

Could Cerra have a case to answer for tackle on Hickey?

Carlton midfielder Adam Cerra may attract MRO attention for this action on Sydney's Tom Hickey

www.afl.com.au

"It's the standard they've set for 18 months."

 

[plays tall 1]

Don't underestimate the vAFL. Saturday was probably the most one sided worst treatment of a player by officialdom in a half of footy I've ever seen. He's 19 and was scragged without protection (but instead had 4 frees paid against including the goal from a ridiculous down field free kick that sealed the game). In top of that they fined him $4000 for "negligent" contact with umpires then they rubbed him out for two weeks.

And Simpson simply says that Harley needs to learn how to handle taggers. If we want the kid to stick around, the club needs to back him more forcefully in circumstances like this.

 

[Bacchus]

And Simpson simply says that Harley needs to learn how to handle taggers. If we want the kid to stick around, the club needs to back him more forcefully in circumstances like this.

Simpson and the club terrified of the AFL.

Think that by not rocking the boat they will get something back but they get shabby treatment anyway.

May as well stand up to them, nothing to lose.

 

[Ace McKane]

Totally. They're remarkably consistent, the AFL. Don't drive people's heads into the floor in sling tackles or you get two+ weeks. Message has been sent loud and clear.

As an aside, this new angle of Harley's tackle I found pretty informative.



The standard is that pinning the arms and driving the head is a one week, which can even come down to zero in a really bizarre good bloke clause that is never to be repeated. Arms free, no injury, no missed time, no delayed symptoms is simply not two.

So a tackler with time to make a decision, feet planted, wraps the ball carrier up from behind and slings him to the ground with his arm pinned. Extremely poor technique. The tackle that has always been frowned upon prior to it gaining attention. 0 weeks.

Unbelievable.

 

[Dylan82]

Not surprised.

The verdict was already determined long before tonight.


HQ wants West Coast to lose the next two games against North and Essendon.

To them Reid facing the tribunal is serendipity. Suspending him (and therefore weakening the Eagles) serves a purpose.


There is a growing desperation to avoid a situation where the Kangaroos go winless this year and the conversations that would no doubt bring with Tasmania coming along and a 19-team situation that nobody wants...

They also know that Essendon have had an exceptionally soft first half of the fixture and will struggle to get the additional 4-5 wins needed to secure finals from the matches to come. Making sure West Coast aren't capable of throwing any spanners about helps in getting them to that figure.


If I didn't know any better, I'd say that it reeks of the administration trying to settle a score over their displeasure of the club not trading out pick 1 last year.

 

[Ace McKane]

Couldn't be bothered going further back than R23 last year. Harley's had potential to cause injury and is worth two weeks, and none of these are. Copy that, clear as mud.

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449 likes, 26 comments - kayosports on April 11, 2024: "Is Charlie Cameron in any trouble for this dangerous tackle? 🤔 📺 Watch every #AFL match of every round LIVE on Kayo. #AFLDeesLions".

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www.afl.com.au

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Max King is penalised for a dangerous tackle on Alex Pearce late in the final term

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Vlastuin dangerous tackle leads to Wilson soccer finish

Nick Vlastuin is penalised for a dangerous tackle before Darcy Wilson dribbles through a clever major

www.afl.com.au

People must be having an absolute laugh if they cannot see the difference between these. Majority of these are extremely dangerous to the ball carrier.

Alex Pearce probably the closest example - 0 weeks.
How this mob came up with two weeks is just absolutely beyond me.

(thanks for putting that together, saves me looking myself)

 

[hudson2006]

Surely it can’t be that many times that a player has ever gotten more than 1 week for an action that didn’t cause injury to another player? A reprimand is all this requires, surely.

Go Eagles, screw the AFL.

 

[Ace McKane]

"Remember this one tackle that was noticeable for being out of sync with every other decision the tribunal has made in the past 18 months"

I would assume you've been around footy just as long/probably longer than I have. Surely you can differentiate between these incidents as linked above.

 

[EagleMan87]

Freo supporters right now:

 

[Mulldogg]

 

[random260]

And Simpson simply says that Harley needs to learn how to handle taggers. If we want the kid to stick around, the club needs to back him more forcefully in circumstances like this.

Don't worry. There needs to be a groundswell at ground level in regards to umpires dogging Harley. I think that groundswell is building. We can spot it a mile away. When they continue dogging him I reckon simmo will speak and ask for a please explain.

Opposition are getting more blatant and bold on how they illegal stop Harley. From Pendlebury trip to this crap on weekend

 

[timeforanother22]

Surely the person that needs to say something to the AFL is Don Pyke?

I am sure they will have a conversation behind closed doors, but the supporters want it said in public.

 

[Wellillbe]

Flying over to watch the Eagles play the Bombers for the first time since Lecca kicked 12 and the AFL go dog me like this. What do you reckon my chances are Harley will sit with me in the stands

 

[Byron_Clanger]

The only silver lining out of this is he learns this lesson now while we're still rubbish and not contending for anything. The North game will be a 50/50 depending which West Coast show up and the Essendon game is a Essendon by the length of several Flemington straights.

The only thing is he'll be going three weeks without footy so may have to give him a few harder sessions during the week so he doesn't lose some touch and stamina.

But like Shuey said to Schofield on his little 5 minute ask questions podcast a couple days ago, dealing with a tag is something that takes time and experience and he'll learn to instead of taking his frustrations out on his opponent he'll take it out on the next contest. It'll all be ok, it's a process. Not many 11 game players ever had a tag before.