No Fyffe was not the fairest so he is not the FAIREST and Best. Best or fairest in isolation does not fit the necessary criteria for winning the brownlow.
This has been the benchmark for nearly 100 years.
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The never ending Priddis debate - part II
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This has been the benchmark for nearly 100 years.
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Wiping your arse with a stick was the benchmark for 100's of years, doesn't mean we didn't move on to something better when it came along.
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By the criteria i mentioned above - get rid of one - then another - then another - if this wasnt the "priddis thread" i doubt you would gave a problem with this hypothetical btw.
Sometimes there was a communal sponge. But yeah.
In all fairness it was our so called Superstars who contributed more to the demise and the dearth of a quality midfield than any other factor.
Talking ill of our fabulous three who most hold sacrosanct is not by any means popular but lets be honest here.
Judd , what captain deserts a sinking ship? Cousins the self indulgent ex captain who put his own needs in front of the team and Kerr with his ill discipline, lack of leadership qualities and being a poor role model.
The three probably formed the most skillfull midfield trio the the comp has ever seen and contributed to the Eagles achieving champion status but the tore it down just as quickly. When you pull that quality from your midfield at one time coinsided with natural attrition you don't recover overnight.
This blame game is definitely being overplayed. Priddis is no superstar but it is totally unfair to place any blame on him and his supporters.
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It's not Priddis fault he plays and plays to the best of his ability.
He's decent enough. To be the main guy in a middle of the road side. As predicted more than half a decade ago.
It's not his fault that he is there. It's the fault of others. But having such a mediocre footballer as our main possession player, the guy who is charged with setting is up from the contest is just a big bowl of fail.
And we've wasted years talking about it because some are in love with his positives ....
He's decent enough. To be the main guy in a middle of the road side. As predicted more than half a decade ago.
It's not his fault that he is there. It's the fault of others. But having such a mediocre footballer as our main possession player, the guy who is charged with setting is up from the contest is just a big bowl of fail.
And we've wasted years talking about it because some are in love with his positives ....
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Agreed. You don't recover overnight but you should recover after a couple years near the bottom surely?
Sadly our recruiting strategy was based around our resident brownlow medalist.
So based on your comments there are no superstar midfielders drafted after 2006?
Remove priddis back then and we would have been more active in drafting a different type of midfielder.....IMO.
So you have moved the blame again. Also you are pretty loose on your dates.
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We drafted Masten, Ebert, Selwood, Stevens, Swift, Shuey, Gaff etc
Its not his fault that half of those guys didn't come on as expected.
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No it isn't you are right.
This thread reminds me of this:
At least it keeps it out of other threads I guess...
At least it keeps it out of other threads I guess...
Wasn't aware the Brownlow was decided that way, would have made Ablett a runaway winner.
Better performed in 2014 in the view of the umpires, as the record shows.
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No but it aids the Bradbury argument I suppose.
Correlation does not imply causation. You've employed the cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, Latin for "with this, therefore because of this". Did you know that studies of school children have shown that intelligence increases as shoe size increases? Or in the US that murders rise seasonally in line with ice cream sales?
The converse of your claim could be that without Priddis we'd be languishing in the bottom four. That actually is slightly more realistic because we know what we'd lose without Priddis, whereas we have no true idea of what we'd gain if he wasn't there.
This is not something we practiced in our family be each to their own I guess.
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More support for mediocrity.
More evidence of your inability for anything but completely narrow thought.
Priddis has been the lynchpin of our centre square setups. We understand that he may have been the best option "for right now" throughout.
However in building a premiership side you look at a guys role and his capacity in that role. "Sure he can play but what about when it counts against the best? Can he be exposed? Are his flaws fatal at that level?"
I mean some make arguments that we keep a Dalziell or various others over the years. But you take them, develop them and then assess them? And you consistently look to improve in each position.
Priddis is an average player, playing his heart out in a key role in our team. We aren't competing for anything with him in that role. Add 6+ years - what's changed?
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With all the fun we're having now imagine how much fun this thread will be after the Port game 
The obvious thing that hasn't changed is others improving enough to force this "average player" out. Your argument falls flat when you look at a club like Collingwood that over the past few years has seen Pendlebury elevate himself to superstar status and despite having Beams go to new heights and Swan still around they've stagnated. Or Adelaide with Dangerfield and Sloane. Meanwhile Hawthorn and Sydney have been right up there with midfields lacking outright superstars, but having a strong core of reliable performers who keep putting in on a weekly basis. I recall a few people last year waxing lyrical about Luke Parker and how sensational and un-Priddis like he was, but they ended up as quiet as Parker's finals performances. Short of a Mario Turco miracle September which wins a flag you need guys who stand up endlessly.
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With all the fun we're having now imagine how much fun this thread will be after the Port game
I thought he played pretty well in the Carlton game - I'm hoping like **** I'm proven wrong and he plays more like that.
I'd love nothing better than to be proven completely and utterly wrong and have him hoist a cup at the end of the year - I'd happily eat shit.
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We know we would lose shit disposals and someone who can't man up an opponent.
We would gain better disposal and not playing a man down every game.
We would also win more games because we would have quicker players doing more with less. Remember "less is more" and this applies to football as well.
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I'm asking your opinion. Who would you rather have on the team that you support? Who out of the two do you think would help more in a premiership tilt?
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Collingwood have stagnated because their key position players are useless. I would take 4 or 5 of Sydney's midfield over any of ours, they have several who if not outright superstars are on the cusp. At least Parker played finals, I'd rather be in Sydney's position and actually competitive than our perpetual state of mediocrity. If it wasn't for age I'd probably take 4 or so of Hawthorns too, and Hodge is a star and has more impact in one season than Priddis has had for us over his whole career.
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Yes, because society evolved and moved on to a new system that was better, much like we should move on from the Brownlow.
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