Play Nice The NM Devil's Chessboard Thread - Part II

[Val Keating]

Switzerland is a freak fake country though.

And their weapons are considered very differently

Fake is a very strong word.

Do you mean, depending on where in Switzerland you are they speak and identify either German, Austrian, French, Italian?

Obviously insert Swiss before all of those, like Swiss German etc..

 

[ferball]

Doesn’t pretty much everyone in Switzerland own a gun and they don’t have mass shootings. Merica is a unique beast indeed.

Though I agree, we have enough lunatics here that there would be mass shootings if we relaxed gun control.

America has a culture that believes it can solve problems with guns. There's a whole mythology about revolvers being invented to fight the Comanche along with all the other myths about the west. Hollywood lives for it. Music - from Marty Robbins Big Iron to Immortal Technique's Land of the Gun is steeped in it.

You'd be surprised how many guns there are in Australia tho. And what is out there. None of it is legal tho so people keep it under wraps. Or buried in the bottom paddock.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

America has a culture that believes it can solve problems with guns. There's a whole mythology about revolvers being invented to fight the Comanche along with all the other myths about the west. Hollywood lives for it. Music - from Marty Robbins Big Iron to Immortal Technique's Land of the Gun is steeped in it.

You'd be surprised how many guns there are in Australia tho. And what is out there. None of it is legal tho so people keep it under wraps. Or buried in the bottom paddock.

Owning a gun is a constitutional right in America, so is the right to freedom of speech. Its easy for the right in the US to rally support behind them on constitutional issues as most are blindly patriotic and distrusting of government.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[ferball]

It's hard to find a major political issue in Australia over the last few decades that wasn't "largely driven by US and UK" politics though. This is nothing new. So why are you arcing up about it now? I'm confused here...

I know for many boomers and older types, they still cling on to that whole 'Australia, don't become America!' counter-culture mindset that was a core part of their identity in the 70s and 80s, and that's fine. But let's not pretend Australia is some powerful independent cultural juggernaut.

You're not one of those types who yells at Australian kids on Halloween to "**** off back to America" are you?

One of the guys from that band, Cranky, used to stay at my place up north back in the day.

There are very real elements of American culture that are ****ed tho, like neoliberalism and the idea that governments can't own gas mines for example. The idea that slavery is legit (still for incarcerated people) ... or that wages are not something government should protect. etc etc In comparison, many aspects of American art, especially the stuff that isn't driven by large scale capitalism, are great. Even certain elements of America's market driven society are great for driving innovation.

There is alot of feedback between the arts in the English speaking world because forms can be similar but regional differences huge. This is especially true in music. The influence of AC/DC, the Angels and Radio Birdman on post 90s guitar music is huge. Ollie Olsen, JG Thirlwell, bands like Dead can Dance and even David Thrussell's band Snog helped shape electronic and industrial music.

Australia's movie industry has always had its own particular slant on the world. Its literature is unique. Its as powerful as the US or European culture. Most of what you describe as a "powerful, indeoendent cultural juggernaut" is just cheap throw away crap, marketed to people to distracted them from how they're forced to waste their lives in wage slavery.

Major political issues in Australia in the last few decades include indigenous rights, boat people, carbon taxes and action on climate change, mining taxes on our resources, the republic and interest rates/middle class welfare. These issues were uniquely Australian and not driven by US culture war.

It's funny that Chad referenced that old Skunkhour (vale Wednesday nights at The Evelyn) "Australia, Don't Become America" time as a bad thing lol.

It was Cranky, not Skunkhour. Very different bands. I'd forgotten about Skunkhour. Gonna go listen to some.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[Val Keating]

America has a culture that believes it can solve problems with guns. There's a whole mythology about revolvers being invented to fight the Comanche along with all the other myths about the west. Hollywood lives for it. Music - from Marty Robbins Big Iron to Immortal Technique's Land of the Gun is steeped in it.

You'd be surprised how many guns there are in Australia tho. And what is out there. None of it is legal tho so people keep it under wraps. Or buried in the bottom paddock.

That’s not a myth. The colt revolver was one of the main reasons the Rangers were able to fight the Comanche’s.

 

[ferball]

That’s not a myth. The colt revolver was one of the main reasons the Rangers were able to fight the Comanche’s.

I agree its factual but a whole mythology grew up around it, along the lines of guns being able to solve problems.

 

[Val Keating]

That AI technology was developed by one of Trumps backers, can’t remember his name but it stars with P.

Pure evil. It’s all in the Al Jazeera documentary “Gaza”. The AI even calculates Palestinians threat level based on where they go and once that person passes a points threshold they become a target and the AI system activates “daddy’s home”. It’s so ****ed up in principle, but even more ****ed up when you consider that Palestinians have no where to go, so they will inadvertently, just by pure happenstance, because of the small space they’ve been forced into will be within the vicinity of genuine military targets.

 

[Dan]

If I identify as non binary do I get to poo in the gender neutral toilets?

Usually I just go behind a tree.

 

[Val Keating]

Just remember, the Russians fighting one of the world's best equipped and supported militarist is ackchually worse than that though.

Surely no one except some lunatic Zionist who thinks Palestine shouldn’t exist would ever even come close to that opinion

 

[Bojan KantKick]

That AI technology was developed by one of Trumps backers, can’t remember his name but it stars with P.

Pure evil. It’s all in the Al Jazeera documentary “Gaza”. The AI even calculates Palestinians threat level based on where they go and once that person passes a points threshold they become a target and the AI system activates “daddy’s home”. It’s so ****ed up in principle, but even more ****ed up when you consider that Palestinians have no where to go, so they will inadvertently, just by pure happenstance, because of the small space they’ve been forced into will be within the vicinity of genuine military targets.

Peter Thiel

 

[Val Keating]

Peter Thiel

Him and Karp

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Chadwiko]

Why are you posting this now?

This isn't new, you know? This happened back in 2022.




There was an uproar about it back then, and the 119th brigade of the TRO admitted they didn't know the back story, they only thought it was a Soviet monument.

Also... it has precisely zero relevance to my post you quoted.

Weird reply, dude.

 

[Chadwiko]

There are also women who don't want to share the public places they feel vulnerable in with trans women because of the way men have treated them. Yet here you are insisting they do and more importantly refusing to acknowledge that even have a right to their own space.

Read what Liam Boy wrote because he covered this very well.

 

[ferball]

Read what Liam Boy wrote because he covered this very well.

I did read it, I responded to it and will respond further when I've thought about it more.

I acknowledge his point but what he said doesn't change this argument.

 

[ferball]

This is very much worth watching.

 

[the big lebowski]

Xenta (@xenta.bsky.social)

Early this morning, russia struck the city of Dnipro with an intercontinental ballistic missile This marks the first-ever combat use of such a weapon in human history The attack damaged a rehabilitation center for people with disabilities, a garage cooperative and 2 houses 😡

bsky.app

Amazing footage

It is eye catching

With the force and speed of the (multiple warheads?) coming down.

I was surprised by the lack of follow up explosions though.

 

[Val Keating]

 

[Val Keating]

Morrison is such a piece of shit

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Morrison is such a piece of shit

You don't have to look hard to see who is funding or blackmailing politicians.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Val Keating]

I wonder what Russia’s response to Ukraine using US made ATACMS to hit Kursk? Won’t be good. Honestly thought there was going to be attempts at coming to a peace agreement, but nope, these mother****ers want to see the world burn.

I’d actually love to know what the average Ukrainian citizen wants now.