no probsJust wanted to thank you for preserving this Rhett. Awesome work
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Reckon l would have been at this game Rhett along with a couple of others from here.
Yes I was. Remember it distinctly as I was 9, North had won the first 3 matches so my dad took me along for the 'match of the day.' Never in it and Geelong ended up Premiers. The footage is great though, some fantastic players on both sides. And the old dog track around the ground!
I was there too. Sitting on the dog track. we had some champion players, but not a champion team.
Sitting on the dog track was fun, as you felt closer to the action; but squatting down for so long and peering through the cyclone wire, less so. Great days though.
There's some scappy 1977 v Hawks prelim on the you-tube. My favourite all time finals win.
Funnily enough there is alot of b & w early 70's stuff ( Carl, Coll, Rich, St.Kilda, ) but that '74 prelim with us is the first l've seen in 50 years !
My unicorn is the '75 qual.final v Carlton.
There’s bits and pieces around but nothing significant. I’d love to see rd1 v Hawthorn.
Someone out there has put highlights from The Winners ‘77 and ‘78 together which is good. It’s quite the little rabbit hole when you start searching old North games. Some good stuff from ‘79 about too.
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Watching the footage of Laurie Dwyer got me thinking about the historical (and current) father-sons and how you would rank their careers.
Very much a thread worthy topic I reckon. Might save it for the post draft comedown.
Very much a thread worthy topic I reckon. Might save it for the post draft comedown.
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It sure was. To think that the previous week we witnessed an exhilarating, pulsating cliffhanger against the eventual premier, going down by a kick after the siren, well , yes, it was depressing.
Was sitting next to the MCC members that day. I’ve never heard anything like the noise after their first goal. Could tell we were in trouble then.
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This story appeared on the Mongrel Punt website last night.
89 Games – The Ballad of Fred Rutley
Footy History
Recently, here at The Mongrel Punt, we published our All-Mongrel Team, comprising some of the toughest nuts the game has seen. For a variety of different reasons, blokes who liked to have a bit of a dip with the rough stuff were placed into a team that would cause even the bravest footballer to flinch in a contest.
Only one current player made the cut – Toby Greene. However, my lack of knowledge about the game before my time prevented me from adding those from the early days of the VFL. It was something that did not sit well with me.
And it led me to conduct a little more research on the players who had the reputation of being fearsome characters in the competition.
Have you ever heard of the man named Fred Rutley?
No?
I don’t blame you. He last pulled on a pair of boots at the highest level in 1930, playing for the Kangaroos. And whilst he was held goalless in his career just once, it was his actions away from the ball that made his name one that all involved in footy became acutely aware of.
As a result of his actions in just one game against Geelong in 1925, Rutley was suspended for a total of 89 games stemming from multiple charges in a spiteful contest.
And really, in the end, he was let off lightly, because the tribunal initially suspended him for life, only to have Rutley have the ban overturned on appeal five years later.
Before I go on, it should be stated that Rutley could obviously play. Whilst this article is focused on his most famous memory at league level, in a time when teams were struggling to kick scores, and North Melbourne were struggling perhaps most of all, Rutley managed a career average of 1.91 goals per game. However, coming into the league as part of the Kangaroos’ first season in the VFL, he and his teammates were constantly under pressure and destined to inhabit the lower rungs on the ladder.
This was the season that North, Hawthorn, and the Dogs all made the move from the VFA into the VFL, and to say they all struggled would be putting it mildly.
As part of a 12-team competition, those three teams finished in the bottom three places, the easy beats of the league. And by around Round 12, Rutley seemed to have had enough of being part of a losing team, with his frustrations boiling over.
Of course, the Cats were none-too-pleased with North, either.
In their first game in the VFL, North had defeated the Cats in Round One. It came as a complete surprise to everyone to see an established VFL team capitulate to a team of upstarts, and the Cats felt embarrassed by their capitulation. Rumours spread that the return match in Round 12 was going to have plenty of heat in it.
Those rumours turned out to be true.
At Arden Street on Saturday the first of August, 1925, Rutley would go on rampage against the Cats. and whilst he would kick three of North’s nine goals in a 94-point hiding at the hands of Geelong, it was kicking of a different type that earned him the ire of the umpires and the VFL tribunal.
Six players were reported on the day, resulting in a total of 17 charges. Six of those charges would be levelled at Rutley. He would be found guilty on all of them.
He was suspended for kicking Geelong’s Eric Fleming and attempting to kick Syd Hall, as well as striking Lloyd Hagger, Stan Thomas, and Arthur Coghlan. He was also charged with inciting a melee, which kind of sounds it came from an incident 95 years later, but there you go – melees were frowned upon back then, as well.
In addition to the charges laid for on-field indiscretions, members of the crowd also got involved. Geelong’s Arthur Coghlan was also hit by a rock, thrown by a North Melbourne supporter.
It was described by another North supporter as “a bit of a pebble.”
Way to play it down.
In the end, two Cats were stretchered off the ground, including their captain, Cliff Rankin.
When Rutley appeared before the VFL tribunal, the chairman announced the following.
“The tribunal is of the opinion that this is one of the most serious and worst cases that has ever come before it. Its decision is that you are disqualified for life.”
Just like the nWo – For… life!
The tribunal wasn’t screwing around back then!
By the time Rutley was reinstated, he had served 89 games on the sidelines, and upon his return, managed just four, to take his career total to 11.
The only longer suspensions in footy history were handed to Doug Fraser and Alex Lang in 1910. Both were banned for 99 matches due to their involvement in a bribery scandal.
We’ve come a fair way.
89 Games – The Ballad of Fred Rutley
89 Games – The Ballad of Fred Rutley
November 7, 2024Footy History
Recently, here at The Mongrel Punt, we published our All-Mongrel Team, comprising some of the toughest nuts the game has seen. For a variety of different reasons, blokes who liked to have a bit of a dip with the rough stuff were placed into a team that would cause even the bravest footballer to flinch in a contest.
Only one current player made the cut – Toby Greene. However, my lack of knowledge about the game before my time prevented me from adding those from the early days of the VFL. It was something that did not sit well with me.
And it led me to conduct a little more research on the players who had the reputation of being fearsome characters in the competition.
Have you ever heard of the man named Fred Rutley?
No?
I don’t blame you. He last pulled on a pair of boots at the highest level in 1930, playing for the Kangaroos. And whilst he was held goalless in his career just once, it was his actions away from the ball that made his name one that all involved in footy became acutely aware of.
As a result of his actions in just one game against Geelong in 1925, Rutley was suspended for a total of 89 games stemming from multiple charges in a spiteful contest.
And really, in the end, he was let off lightly, because the tribunal initially suspended him for life, only to have Rutley have the ban overturned on appeal five years later.
Before I go on, it should be stated that Rutley could obviously play. Whilst this article is focused on his most famous memory at league level, in a time when teams were struggling to kick scores, and North Melbourne were struggling perhaps most of all, Rutley managed a career average of 1.91 goals per game. However, coming into the league as part of the Kangaroos’ first season in the VFL, he and his teammates were constantly under pressure and destined to inhabit the lower rungs on the ladder.
This was the season that North, Hawthorn, and the Dogs all made the move from the VFA into the VFL, and to say they all struggled would be putting it mildly.
As part of a 12-team competition, those three teams finished in the bottom three places, the easy beats of the league. And by around Round 12, Rutley seemed to have had enough of being part of a losing team, with his frustrations boiling over.
Of course, the Cats were none-too-pleased with North, either.
In their first game in the VFL, North had defeated the Cats in Round One. It came as a complete surprise to everyone to see an established VFL team capitulate to a team of upstarts, and the Cats felt embarrassed by their capitulation. Rumours spread that the return match in Round 12 was going to have plenty of heat in it.
Those rumours turned out to be true.
At Arden Street on Saturday the first of August, 1925, Rutley would go on rampage against the Cats. and whilst he would kick three of North’s nine goals in a 94-point hiding at the hands of Geelong, it was kicking of a different type that earned him the ire of the umpires and the VFL tribunal.
Six players were reported on the day, resulting in a total of 17 charges. Six of those charges would be levelled at Rutley. He would be found guilty on all of them.
He was suspended for kicking Geelong’s Eric Fleming and attempting to kick Syd Hall, as well as striking Lloyd Hagger, Stan Thomas, and Arthur Coghlan. He was also charged with inciting a melee, which kind of sounds it came from an incident 95 years later, but there you go – melees were frowned upon back then, as well.
In addition to the charges laid for on-field indiscretions, members of the crowd also got involved. Geelong’s Arthur Coghlan was also hit by a rock, thrown by a North Melbourne supporter.
It was described by another North supporter as “a bit of a pebble.”
Way to play it down.
In the end, two Cats were stretchered off the ground, including their captain, Cliff Rankin.
When Rutley appeared before the VFL tribunal, the chairman announced the following.
“The tribunal is of the opinion that this is one of the most serious and worst cases that has ever come before it. Its decision is that you are disqualified for life.”
Just like the nWo – For… life!
The tribunal wasn’t screwing around back then!
By the time Rutley was reinstated, he had served 89 games on the sidelines, and upon his return, managed just four, to take his career total to 11.
The only longer suspensions in footy history were handed to Doug Fraser and Alex Lang in 1910. Both were banned for 99 matches due to their involvement in a bribery scandal.
We’ve come a fair way.
Yes the infamous Round 12 1925 match at Arden St. The violence was not at all one-sided. Geelong players "Bull" Couglan and Stan Thomas were both suspended for the remainder of the 1925 season and all of the 1926 one for striking. Coughlan was a bit of a thug.When he was struck on the knee by a stone he had to be attended to in the centre of the ground - out of reach of the hostile North fans.This story appeared on the Mongrel Punt website last night.
89 Games – The Ballad of Fred Rutley
89 Games – The Ballad of Fred Rutley
November 7, 2024
Footy History
Recently, here at The Mongrel Punt, we published our All-Mongrel Team, comprising some of the toughest nuts the game has seen. For a variety of different reasons, blokes who liked to have a bit of a dip with the rough stuff were placed into a team that would cause even the bravest footballer to flinch in a contest.
Only one current player made the cut – Toby Greene. However, my lack of knowledge about the game before my time prevented me from adding those from the early days of the VFL. It was something that did not sit well with me.
And it led me to conduct a little more research on the players who had the reputation of being fearsome characters in the competition.
Have you ever heard of the man named Fred Rutley?
No?
I don’t blame you. He last pulled on a pair of boots at the highest level in 1930, playing for the Kangaroos. And whilst he was held goalless in his career just once, it was his actions away from the ball that made his name one that all involved in footy became acutely aware of.
As a result of his actions in just one game against Geelong in 1925, Rutley was suspended for a total of 89 games stemming from multiple charges in a spiteful contest.
And really, in the end, he was let off lightly, because the tribunal initially suspended him for life, only to have Rutley have the ban overturned on appeal five years later.
Before I go on, it should be stated that Rutley could obviously play. Whilst this article is focused on his most famous memory at league level, in a time when teams were struggling to kick scores, and North Melbourne were struggling perhaps most of all, Rutley managed a career average of 1.91 goals per game. However, coming into the league as part of the Kangaroos’ first season in the VFL, he and his teammates were constantly under pressure and destined to inhabit the lower rungs on the ladder.
This was the season that North, Hawthorn, and the Dogs all made the move from the VFA into the VFL, and to say they all struggled would be putting it mildly.
As part of a 12-team competition, those three teams finished in the bottom three places, the easy beats of the league. And by around Round 12, Rutley seemed to have had enough of being part of a losing team, with his frustrations boiling over.
Of course, the Cats were none-too-pleased with North, either.
In their first game in the VFL, North had defeated the Cats in Round One. It came as a complete surprise to everyone to see an established VFL team capitulate to a team of upstarts, and the Cats felt embarrassed by their capitulation. Rumours spread that the return match in Round 12 was going to have plenty of heat in it.
Those rumours turned out to be true.
At Arden Street on Saturday the first of August, 1925, Rutley would go on rampage against the Cats. and whilst he would kick three of North’s nine goals in a 94-point hiding at the hands of Geelong, it was kicking of a different type that earned him the ire of the umpires and the VFL tribunal.
Six players were reported on the day, resulting in a total of 17 charges. Six of those charges would be levelled at Rutley. He would be found guilty on all of them.
He was suspended for kicking Geelong’s Eric Fleming and attempting to kick Syd Hall, as well as striking Lloyd Hagger, Stan Thomas, and Arthur Coghlan. He was also charged with inciting a melee, which kind of sounds it came from an incident 95 years later, but there you go – melees were frowned upon back then, as well.
In addition to the charges laid for on-field indiscretions, members of the crowd also got involved. Geelong’s Arthur Coghlan was also hit by a rock, thrown by a North Melbourne supporter.
It was described by another North supporter as “a bit of a pebble.”
Way to play it down.
In the end, two Cats were stretchered off the ground, including their captain, Cliff Rankin.
When Rutley appeared before the VFL tribunal, the chairman announced the following.
“The tribunal is of the opinion that this is one of the most serious and worst cases that has ever come before it. Its decision is that you are disqualified for life.”
Just like the nWo – For… life!
The tribunal wasn’t screwing around back then!
By the time Rutley was reinstated, he had served 89 games on the sidelines, and upon his return, managed just four, to take his career total to 11.
The only longer suspensions in footy history were handed to Doug Fraser and Alex Lang in 1910. Both were banned for 99 matches due to their involvement in a bribery scandal.
We’ve come a fair way.
Both teams' line-ups were a bit different to those of Round 1. Rutley was a last minute replacement in the side for Linton. He had previously been omitted from the side that played in Round 11. He was a local junior who played with North in the VFA from 1922-24. When his life supension was lifted in 1930, at the suggestion of the Geelong VFL delegate, he played a further four matches and managed to kick seven goals. Rutley died in 1947 aged just 42.
Up until Round 12, North were the only side that had beaten Geelong. Geelong had their second loss in Round 14 to St Kilda. On this day North had a good win over South Melbourne. When the scores from other grounds were posted on the scoreboard at Arden St showing the Geelong loss, North fans cheered loudly.
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A black day for North. This was the final round of the season, and StKilda needed to win to keep fourth spot in the final four as it was then. North managed to score only 1.4 after quarter time to StKilda's 16.14.
Still, an opportunity for our younger fans to see some of North's 1960s players in action albeit briefly. The players seen in the video were:
2. Noel Teasdale
3. John Ibrahim
4. Barry Allan
5. John Jenkins
7. Adrian Perry
9. Ken Dean
11. Keith Robertson
12. Daryl O'Brien
13. Frank Goode
17. Allen Aylett
21. Ken Snell
23. Denis Railton
25. Maurie Wood
27. Laurie Dwyer
32. John Waddington
33. Mike Delanty
41. Graeme O'Donnell
Not sighted or missed:
6.J Dugdale, 1.Bernie McCarthy. 19 Barry Cheatley.
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