Oppo Camp The Non-North Footy Discussion & Matchday Chat Thread (NNFD&MCT) VIII

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What are these “senior players” of which you speak? Who is above 23, currently in the ones, and doesn’t care? I have a chart you can refer to in case it helps.
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Rob - you have two Taylors, two CCJ's, two Goaters and two Scotts. You are doing our collective heads in.

We want two Sheezels, two Wardlaws, Three Larkeys and keep the two Combens.
 

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Hawthorn having an actual dip by the looks of it. 14pts down against the reigning premiers

Not very confident at all against them now

God we are so very far back

I'm not sure we are beating the hawks or WC after this weekend

We could only dream of what the hawks have done today

Oh well, at least 17 teams competed this round.

Hawks, winless, take on a team at 1-3 ... pretty stark difference in their attitude to ours when taking on a team at 0-3.

Umm yeh dont think we are getting close to Hawks or Eagles lol

That's the spirit, guys.

I especially like the 1-3 vs 0-3 whinge. As if those numbers mean anything.
 
I think the Tiger is gettable, add them to the list of sides that aint much chop.
Their fwd line could do with a big CHF, CCJ is what I'm thinking.

Play a bit like us, not very well is what I do mean. Jump on Lefau for the Kerridge. Looks and plays like someone we'd draft. We in fairness would have used a second rounder. Not sure the Tiger did that.
Maybe if the Tiger go to the MCG by mistake......

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I'm going to pick the pin-head with the s**t tatts and the weird haircut. Looks like a wannabe New Zealand outlaw motorcycle gang member. Nate and Kraks will tell me if he's eligible.
It’s giantroo who gets the final say
Our lord and saviour
 
My advice is don’t look at the other teams or games and compare them to us. It will only make you feel worse. Console yourself with the fact we can’t get much worse and the only way from here on out is up.
 
Not buying into the comparison game or how any of it helps predict a future matchup against other teams, but I’d hope our players can look at that and be reminded that elite pressure gets you a very long way, no matter what else you are missing - did the same for us a few times last year too even though like tonight it didn’t result in wins, so let’s see more of that.
 
Hawthorn have more belief, greater leadership, and more maturity than us. We're not beating them.
I think what they have is a balanced side. They aren't great but they have the necessary KP players, small forwards and capable defenders. We're patching up square holes with round pegs.
It's gonna be telling.
 
The Hawks will shred us again unfortunately. I'll still go though. Believe.
 
I think what they have is a balanced side. They aren't great but they have the necessary KP players, small forwards and capable defenders. We're patching up square holes with round pegs.
It's gonna be telling.
Yep.

We need a CHF. We play him at FB.

We need small, zippy forwards. We draft none of them despite having none on the list.

We need a class user at HF. We draft one then play him at HB.

NMFC is The Opposite episode of Seinfeld.

Except everything is wrong.
 
Yeah, nah were not beating the Hawks in a couple of weeks.
We couldn't get near them last year and nothing has changed my mind so far based on exposed form.
With where we are at we need to play some sides where the game isn't over before it begins.

It is not a surprise that our best football of the year so far came against a side we thought we had a shot at.

We may not get the Hawks but I gotta believe that our kids think they can actually win that game.

As soul crushing as this time has been as a supporter there has to be games where we at least have some sort of sniff
 
With where we are at we need to play some sides where the game isn't over before it begins.

It is not a surprise that our best football of the year so far came against a side we thought we had a shot at.

We may not get the Hawks but I gotta believe that our kids think they can actually win that game.

As soul crushing as this time has been as a supporter there has to be games where we at least have some sort of sniff
I dont think the Hawks senior core is any better than ours. But they have an identity and a system and they crack in.
Ours are too flakey and the majority are woefully out of form.
Simpkin, McDonald, Corr, Stephenson, Stephens, Zurhaar, Tucker are all in the shit and LDU and Larkey are down on output.
Were in a horrible place at the minute.
 
I dont think the Hawks senior core is any better than ours. But they have an identity and a system and they crack in.
Ours are too flakey and majority woefully and horribly out of form.
Simpkin, McDonald, Corr, Stephenson, Stephens, Zurhaar,t
Our team is mentally insipid.

At the mere hit of a challenge, they collapse like a balsar wood deck chair.

They’re professional losers and it’s accepted.
 
Our team is mentally insipid.

At the mere hit of a challenge, they collapse like a balsar wood deck chair.

They’re professional losers and it’s accepted.
Jy comes out with bold statements either before the season starts about how he is sick of losing and even this week stating they learnt their lesson on Good Friday and will give it a red hot crack.
But this is how confidence nose dives because our leaders cant back up their statements.
It then runs through the rest of the team like a virus.

The reality is our leaders are not good enough to turn the fortunes of the club around. Were in essence treading water until the talented crop come through. But that could take years.

So if the senior core can't lift the standard - what is the solution? Because Sheezel has played 26 games, Wardlaw 10 and Kerch and Duursma 4 each.
 
Not buying into the comparison game or how any of it helps predict a future matchup against other teams, but I’d hope our players can look at that and be reminded that elite pressure gets you a very long way, no matter what else you are missing - did the same for us a few times last year too even though like tonight it didn’t result in wins, so let’s see more of that.
I think a lot of the problem is this. We got no wins for the effort that we put in during the middle-spurt last year, even if we obviously got very close. Seems like a lot of the players, after that, have decided it's not worth it (again, I don't think I'd be any better, I'm just describing the problem).

And when I say they aren't putting in the effort, I'm not comparing us to Hawks/WCE right now. I'm comparing us to us 8 months ago, during that Sydney/Essendon/GWS spurt of close games. In those, it seemed like we cared and had the hunger. Vs Brisbane (or Carlton), it didn't. I hope we can find it again.
 
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