2nds The Official Port Board Thread for the Discussion of the Port Power Seconds Team

[Portmanteau]

He said he hates Port and is a Crows fan now.

Who?

 

[PRDPower]

Putting all the club politics involved with who gets a call up and who doesn't, there are plenty of SAAFL juniors who get called up.
By replacing the SANFL with SAAFL, and linking to the VFL similar to the TAC Cup and acting as a feeder for the VFL, will provide just as good, if not BETTER opportunities to young players.
In fact it will provide even more opportunities then playing in the SANFL development squads.

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I'm sorry, but the only players coming out of our 18's (if they are SAAFL based) and into the VFL side will be the ones deemed not good enough to be drafted. This is not the purpose of an academy. I - and I support the idea of keeping the junior sides - would give up my support for the idea if this was the purpose. The purpose is to get AFL players drafted out of the 18's side, and this will be of a lesser chance if they are playing against lesser opposition, which they will be if they are playing in the SAAFL and not the SANFL. Anyone who thinks the arrival of a Port Adelaide under 18's team in the amateurs will see a mass transition of talent from the SANFL to the SAAFL is kidding themselves. You will get some talent TO Port Adelaide, but not the opposition.

What better opportunities would there be for yet-to-be-drafted under 18's? Dominate against lesser opposition, thus undermining their good performances to scouts? The chance to wear a Port Adelaide jumper?

The SANFL 18's is the TAC Cup equivalent in South Australia. The best players will play there until a mass change happens, not just because Port Adelaide move.

 

[Relativity]

Kochy to Derm at half time. "We will definitely have a "hybrid" reserves team in 2014"

and something like "We'll be buggered if we are going to give up 143 years of community tradition"

amongst some other pearlers. Torpedo's 1 and 2 fired.

 

[*PAF]

Kochy to Derm at half time. "We will definitely have a "hybrid" reserves team in 2014"

and something like "We'll be buggered if we are going to give up 143 years of community tradition"

amongst some other pearlers. Torpedo's 1 and 2 fired.

"We'll be buggered if we are going to give up 143 years of community tradition and we will definitely have a reserves team somewhere in 2015, that is guaranteed. Not sure where but somewhere" or something along those lines.

Ballistic missiles 1 and 2 fired.

 

[FPPF]

I'm sorry, but the only players coming out of our 18's (if they are SAAFL based) and into the VFL side will be the ones deemed not good enough to be drafted. This is not the purpose of an academy. I - and I support the idea of keeping the junior sides - would give up my support for the idea if this was the purpose. The purpose is to get AFL players drafted out of the 18's side, and this will be of a lesser chance if they are playing against lesser opposition, which they will be if they are playing in the SAAFL and not the SANFL. Anyone who thinks the arrival of a Port Adelaide under 18's team in the amateurs will see a mass transition of talent from the SANFL to the SAAFL is kidding themselves. You will get some talent TO Port Adelaide, but not the opposition.

What better opportunities would there be for yet-to-be-drafted under 18's? Dominate against lesser opposition, thus undermining their good performances to scouts? The chance to wear a Port Adelaide jumper?

The SANFL 18's is the TAC Cup equivalent in South Australia. The best players will play there until a mass change happens, not just because Port Adelaide move.

The change wont happen unless someone makes a move first. And when did I say there would be a mass transition of players from the sanfl to the saafl?
We always make a move, and others get jealous and follow. eg creation of the Crows, move to Adelaide Oval..

There is plenty of young talent in the SAAFL juniors. Plenty of those kids get called up for development squads.

Now, those facts tell me one thing. There is plenty of talent to be found in the SAAFL juniors.

It might not be as strong as the TAC Cup. Or the SANFL development squads initially.
But if Port makes a move there, that brings extra revenue to the league. That means more money for the other clubs. That means they have more money to spend on their players and coaches. That means in time the standard of the league will lift.
And if they align with the VFL, I'd imagine their financial windfall will also increase, as will exposure of the SAAFL.



And on what Kochie said...I believe what we have now, the Magpies with half a dozen Port AFL players, is basically the hybrid reserves team he is talking about. We might even see a few more Port AFL players moved to the Magpies next season.

 

[Nelso]

The change wont happen unless someone makes a move first. And when did I say there would be a mass transition of players from the sanfl to the saafl?
We always make a move, and others get jealous and follow. eg creation of the Crows, move to Adelaide Oval..

There is plenty of young talent in the SAAFL juniors. Plenty of those kids get called up for development squads.

Now, those facts tell me one thing. There is plenty of talent to be found in the SAAFL juniors.

It might not be as strong as the TAC Cup. Or the SANFL development squads initially.
But if Port makes a move there, that brings extra revenue to the league. That means more money for the other clubs. That means they have more money to spend on their players and coaches. That means in time the standard of the league will lift.
And if they align with the VFL, I'd imagine their financial windfall will also increase, as will exposure of the SAAFL.



And on what Kochie said...I believe what we have now, the Magpies with half a dozen Port AFL players, is basically the hybrid reserves team he is talking about. We might even see a few more Port AFL players moved to the Magpies next season.

I heard a rumour today that we might have something to do with Port Melbourne next year. Apparently they are in dire financial straits.

I will have to do some more digging to see what I can find out.

 

[FPPF]

I heard a rumour today that we might have something to do with Port Melbourne next year. Apparently they are in dire financial straits.

I will have to do some more digging to see what I can find out.

Interesting. They were affiliated with the Swans in 2001/02 and later North Melbourne.

If we align with them for 2014, that will really piss off the SANFL, to them it will be another act of treason(apparently only they can knife us, but we can't stand up for our selves..), and I think in anger/jealousy/spite because we will have shown we don't need them, they will pull the plug on the Magpies in 2015..if we don't do it our selves before them.
Hell, if we did pull the plug, they'd probably start court action to reverse our decision to try and force us to have a Magpies team, only so they can pull the plug them selves.

 

[El_Scorcho]

What are their grounds going to be for getting rid of the Magpies?

How will knifing a viable entity and a club that has been in the league since forever, and a club that wants to remain in the league escape any scrutiny? Would we be able to appeal to the CAS or something? What will happen with the TV deal? Surely the TV company would want the biggest club in the league playing.

Odd.

 

[chiwigi]

What are their grounds going to be for getting rid of the Magpies?

How will knifing a viable entity and a club that has been in the league since forever, and a club that wants to remain in the league escape any scrutiny? Would we be able to appeal to the CAS or something? What will happen with the TV deal? Surely the TV company would want the biggest club in the league playing.

Odd.

I am liking the Port Melbourne merge idea. Problem is SANFL still own us. Ports in VFL and Magpies stay in SANFL as is. We are therefore asking them for absolutely nothing. How could they complain?...oh yeah.

 

[FPPF]

We weren't asking for anything in when we were going to join the VFL/AFL..
yet look at how the club's been treated since.

Logic, common sense and reason are not traits of the sanfl.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

According to Rucci it's now up to Port Adelaide to save the integrity of the sanfl and keep the crows reserves team afloat by offering up half our zone to the crows to guarantee them players for their reserves team.

A week ago he said we had a few weeks to save our miserable souls or be excluded from a sanfl/crows bilateral decision on the reserves comp.

Can he ever stick to a script? And have they finally realised that we won't be the first to blink?

Port Adelaide has five weeks to save the sanfl

 

[BornPort]

Port Adelaide has five weeks to save the sanfl

 

[Jonts]

If Rucci is finally correct, would we give them the metro or country zone? or half of both

why dont we only give them 33%? stick it to them

 

[StrappingTape]

ow my head hurts... it was less than a week ago his headline was Port Adelaide has 6 weeks or else and that Adelaide and the SANFL hold all the power and will dictate their terms to us if we don't get involved. Now the AFC and the SANFL only have 5 weeks for us to save them. What the!? Hey they make a stupid arrangement, it's not our problem, in fact the best thing for us would be to let that run for a year to see if it does got as poorly as he thinks.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

According to Rucci it's now up to Port Adelaide to save the integrity of the sanfl and keep the crows reserves team afloat by offering up half our zone to the crows to guarantee them players for their reserves team.

A week ago he said we had a few weeks to save our miserable souls or be excluded from a sanfl/crows bilateral decision on the reserves comp.

Can he ever stick to a script? And have they finally realised that we won't be the first to blink?
Port Adelaide has five weeks to save the sanfl

I wonder what drugs Rucci has been on to come up with this story. He is getting nothing out of Alberton and so he now reckons that Port have to save the crows.

Bugger me but why don't the crows set up an U/18 academy of 40 kids who have to play for school before they play for their SANFL clubs, draw them from around the state and use them as top up players. The next year the SANFL clubs get players who have spent a year at an AFL club.

Good to see it has only taken 6 weeks before its dawned on him that "this is the farce of Adelaide's poorly constructed reserves plan."

 

[TheFVK]

Is Michael Rucci part goldfish? His articles and opinions seem to be drawn randomly out of a barrel.

 

[Jakko]

A truly strange article considering the obvious in the lead up to the crow reserves decision.

Crows jumped the gun, Port put in a ridiculous position, and football as a whole worse off.

 

[StrappingTape]

Shit like this always ends up happening when everyone is unanimous in their preparedness

 

[FPPF]

A truly strange article considering the obvious in the lead up to the crow reserves decision.

Crows jumped the gun, Port put in a ridiculous position, and football as a whole worse off.

The Crows didn't jump the gun.
It's simple, the Crows are the SANFL.
The SANFL runs/controls the Crows.
The Crows are not their own identity, their own entity, like Port Adelaide is.

That is why the Crows model was "supposedly" accepted by the SANFL. Because the SANFL are the ones who came up with it.
How do I know? Because the SANFL are demanding Port adopt the same model.

The whole reserves thing was started by Port saying it wants a reserves side because without a reserves side we are at a disadvantage compared to other AFL clubs.
The SANFL/Crows sense an opportunity to screw Port Adelaide, so they get involved in the reserves thing, and come up with the model the Crows put forward.

Same with everything else.
We accept an offer to join the new AFL...SANFL start crying, threaten court action, and they eventually shit out the Adelaide Camry Crows.
We decide we want to move to Adelaide Oval for a better stadium deal, etc etc. They decide that it would be better if they come too.
What unfolds is the bullshit called the SMA(stadium management authority)..whereby the SANFL are in control of Adelaide Oval during the footy season(SACA in control during the cricket season).

Adelaide Oval the way it was, would have been perfect for Port Adelaide. We had 30,000 at the game against Melbourne.
This year our license will be taken back by the AFL from the SANFL, so we would have no longer had any sanfl imposed shackles on us as a club, at a SACA controlled Adelaide Oval. Within a few years, together with the AFL and SACA we would have redeveloped parts of Adelaide Oval to boost it to a 40,000ish capacity stadium. Not that the current redevelopment isn't a good thing for the place. But we would have been better off without sanfl/crows involvement.

We find new ways to move forward as a footy club, and the sanfl clutch onto our club and try and suck as much $$$$ out of us as they can.

If we hadn't made the move towards the AFL initially, the sanfl would be as relevant as an outback amateur league today.
They owe their continued existence to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Port Adelaide is football in South Australia.

To hell with all these free loading maggots we sadly have to share this state with.

 

[_Christoh_]

According to Rucci it's now up to Port Adelaide to save the integrity of the sanfl and keep the crows reserves team afloat by offering up half our zone to the crows to guarantee them players for their reserves team.

A week ago he said we had a few weeks to save our miserable souls or be excluded from a sanfl/crows bilateral decision on the reserves comp.

Can he ever stick to a script? And have they finally realised that we won't be the first to blink?

Port Adelaide has five weeks to save the sanfl

Looks like that article has been pulled. I cant seem to find it now

 

[Dalphonso]

Looks like that article has been pulled. I cant seem to find it now

Hmmm!!! Very strange indeed.Maybe someone at the SANFL came down hard on him?

 

[chachi11]

Link is dead...

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Doesn't appear to be on the site any more. Maybe it needs a little re-write.

 

[*PAF]

If Port are trying to do something then they too must have a slice, not because they necessarily want to but just in case it turns out to be something worth doing. Wrong fricken attitude.

The other thing is the so called review. We were given the green light based on a set of financial predictions and the One Club thingo was going to be reviewed every so often to make sure that these predictions weren't fantasy.
Now we know that we are meeting targets yet we are still going to get thrown out? Why dat Mr Rucci?

 

[pastmyprimus]

It's going to dawn on the sanfl, if it hasn't already, that Port isn't bluffing about establishing a reserves team outside the sanfl in 2015 if the deal as it stands doesn't change. Kochie made that clear at the half time interview with Dermie on Saturday. You don't make that kind of statement unless you can back it up.

So if some-one is going to blink it will be the sanfl. But knowing the sanfl, their hatred for Port will get in the way of good judgement.

John Olsen, Leigh Whicker and Bohdan Jaworskyj and others will choke on their corn flakes on the morning they read the Caroline Wilson article in the Age announcing that Port will be fielding a reserves team in the VFL in 2015.