2nds The Official Port Board Thread for the Discussion of the Port Power Seconds Team

[shewho]

I haven't entered this debate for a while but the more I think about it there are certain conditions I cannot accept:

1 I cannot accept top up players from the scraps of other clubs. Either the Magpies are there to compete and win if good enough or we take our Magpies somewhere else.

2 I cannot accept a 15 year commitment. We are an AFL team and it may be in our interests to join an AFL reserves comp. Also, why would we committ to 15 years and have no say around the SANFL directors table. So they can change the rules about top ups etc and we are forced to accept?

3 I cannot accept a $80,000 fee per year. We are adding value to the comp not the other way around.

If these three conditions were dropped, I'd start to consider the deal. Otherwise, approach the AFL/VFL with a bid to enter the VFL with our top up players coming from the NT. AFL help to fund the NT side of it at least, and its a win-win.

 

[faquito]

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If these three conditions were dropped, I'd start to consider the deal. Otherwise, approach the AFL/VFL with a bid to enter the VFL with our top up players coming from the NT. AFL help to fund the NT side of it at least, and its a win-win.

That NT idea is great! Set up a 'high performance academy/scholarship' and bring in the next Jake Neade or Jed Anderson through our academy while boarding in Adelaide and playing for the Maggies/Power reserves.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

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3 I cannot accept a $80,000 fee per year. We are adding value to the comp not the other way around.

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That's a $400k per year commitment. indexed every year. It's a payment of $50k to each of the other 8 SANFL clubs.

And that is asking us to make a commitment before we know what we have to pay for the licence and what the stadium deal is.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Do VFL clubs have reserves?

Port Melbourne are a stand alone club

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10462-0-0

They have a reserve comp its 10 teams called the VFL development league ( ie no Collingwood, Geelong, Essendon and Bendigo who only have teams in the A grade)

http://www.sportingpulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-118-0-253879-0&a=FIXTURE

Currently none of the TAC U/18 teams are part of the VFL clubs. There are some alignments like the Geelong Falcons and Geelong where they use Kardinia Park facilities.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Anyone pick up this cryptic comment by Brett Ebert in his farewell presser?

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While Ebert has called an end to his AFL career, there is still a chance he will play again.

“We’ll wait and see, there’s a team that I’m looking to play for, but we’ll wait and see how that goes," he said.

"Firstly I’ve got to get my body right, I won’t be running until January so I might enjoy myself and then get into it again in the New Year.”

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[Zakk Wylde]

SMOSH/West Lakes

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Anyone know why Rucci's Port to save the sanfl article from 10-30 last night was pulled down?

SANFL threat? Johnny Olsen got into him? Rob Lucas threaten to get the boys around? Crow supporting boss at the 'Tiser didn't like it?

 

[_Christoh_]

was the article printed in todays paper?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

was the article printed in todays paper?

No - that is why i asked the question.

 

[Dalphonso]

Anyone pick up this cryptic comment by Brett Ebert in his farewell presser?

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Sounds like Aaron Davey Yesterday hoping another club will pick them up?
They are both passed it now and injury prone.No one will look at them.

 

[Us against the rest]

Anyone pick up this cryptic comment by Brett Ebert in his farewell presser?

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Any ideas ?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I was thinking (hoping) Brett was hinting at playing in a Port reserves team, especially with Ken saying he wanted Brett to stay around well into his retirement. It just seemed a bit of a teasing response. If it's an established club why not just name them?

Allegedly a few Port players have been told to be ready.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Dermie, at the half time break at Saturday's game, asked Kochie the following Dorothy Dix question:

You've had the Magpies in the sanfl for 100 years or more. An unbelievably successfull club. Is there a whisper doing the rounds that you might even look elsewhere for a true Power reserves team.

Kochie's answer went something like this.

We'd love for the Magpies to be our reserves team in the sanfl. At the moment we're being asked to dismantle all of our community and junior involvements and academies. That's our heart and soul. We helped to establish the sanfl, we've been there 143 years. To put it crudely, we'll be buggered if we going to give away all our heritage to get a reserves team. We would love the Mapgies to be our reserves team, but I reckon we'd be the only club in the world to be told you're spending too much on grassroots junior football - stop doing it. We want to keep doing it - it's what makes us different. We'll definitely have a hybrid reserves model in 2014. We will have a full reserves team in some shape or form playing somewhere in 2015 - that's a guarantee. We're not going to dismantle our heritage for it.

Dermie finishes by saying that Port is one of the great, great clubs in Australia, one of the greatest in the world given the amount of success they've had.

Kochie's message is pretty clear. The hybrid model in 2014 is the current Magpies, maybe with a few more Port players listed with other sanfl clubs. Then in 2015 we have a full reserves club elsewhere, unless the unthinkable happens and the sanfl yields.

 

[kaysee]

Anyone pick up this cryptic comment by Brett Ebert in his farewell presser?

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I most certainly did... he was coy about it and smirked to Ken... and said along the lines that "it was at a level far below the AFL". Part of me thought he was either going to play somewhere with his mates (SAAFL or Country) or perhaps a PAFC team in the SAAFL.

 

[Us against the rest]

I was thinking (hoping) Brett was hinting at playing in a Port reserves team, especially with Ken saying he wanted Brett to stay around well into his retirement. It just seemed a bit of a teasing response. If it's an established club why not just name them?

Allegedly a few Port players have been told to be ready.

This could get interesting

 

[simba_]

I love how Kochie gets himself these big gigs at half time and before the game and such, I've heard him say "we will neva, eva give in" so many times now but it's brilliant because he's our chairman!! He's making it so simple that everyone - even the general SA public! - can see what has to be done for the SA clubs to excel.

 

[Dalphonso]

I was thinking (hoping) Brett was hinting at playing in a Port reserves team, especially with Ken saying he wanted Brett to stay around well into his retirement. It just seemed a bit of a teasing response. If it's an established club why not just name them?

Allegedly a few Port players have been told to be ready.

Talking of reserves.
I awoke very early this morning in the NT and switched on the ABC and saw the last quarter of Geelong VFL and Port Melbourne.
It was fantastic fast desperate football goal for goal until Geelong kicked away with about a minute to go.
Far better footy to watch than most AFL stuff these days.

 

[Stewart2Austin Reborn]

I like how Ken is keen on retaining senior players even if they don't necessarily play. Great for the football club.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I was thinking (hoping) Brett was hinting at playing in a Port reserves team, especially with Ken saying he wanted Brett to stay around well into his retirement. It just seemed a bit of a teasing response. If it's an established club why not just name them?

Allegedly a few Port players have been told to be ready.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I love how Kochie gets himself these big gigs at half time and before the game and such, I've heard him say "we will neva, eva give in" so many times now but it's brilliant because he's our chairman!! He's making it so simple that everyone - even the general SA public! - can see what has to be done for the SA clubs to excel.

It was pretty slick how he was interviewed at half time of the crows home showdown. No sign of Rob Chapman.

 

[BornPort]

It was pretty slick how he was interviewed at half time of the crows home showdown. No sign of Rob Chapman.

Who's Rod Chipmen?

 

[finbarr]

It was pretty slick how he was interviewed at half time of the crows home showdown. No sign of Rob Chapman.

Love how Koch is all over the TV during games, camera's panning in his direction. Only Eddie gets that sort of attention, or Kennett in his day.

 

[Jumbo]

At the end of 360 tonight they showed vision of Kochie talking about Gerard and Robbo (on his morning show) and had a bit of a chuckle - The exposure Kochie is giving us is going great guns

 

[Us against the rest]

I love how Kochie gets himself these big gigs at half time and before the game and such, I've heard him say "we will neva, eva give in" so many times now but it's brilliant because he's our chairman!! He's making it so simple that everyone - even the general SA public! - can see what has to be done for the SA clubs to excel.

The exposure Kochie gives our club is priceless, i like it.

 

[Relativity]

....."We'll definitely have a hybrid reserves model in 2014."....

Kochie's message is pretty clear. The hybrid model in 2014 is the current Magpies, maybe with a few more Port players listed with other sanfl clubs. Then in 2015 we have a full reserves club elsewhere, unless the unthinkable happens and the sanfl yields.

I'm not sure that this is clear. Why would he have worded it in this way rather than just say things would remain status quo? My interpretation is he meant a whole new side topped up with outsiders ie a side in, say, the amateur league.