2nds The Official Port Board Thread for the Discussion of the Port Power Seconds Team

[RussellEbertHandball]

The SANFL old boys F**ked us when the made us remain in the SANFL.

That is wrong. We wanted a presence in the SANFL. In 1990 we didn't have time to worry about if we moved lock stock and barrel to the AFL as it was 3.5 weeks between starting the talks with the AFL and the media leak and then the shit hit the fan and soon after you had the court injunction where we couldn't talk to the AFL. In 1994 before the the tender rules were announced we stated we wanted a team in the AFL and a team in the SANFL but no SANFL control of our licence. When the tender rules were set up we went for a split of the club into 2, with Port moving into the AFL but setting up the Magpies as a separate entity. I wrote a long post about this including the club's 2002 fact sheet about how things happened between August 1994 and the end of 1996. I will cut and paste 2 paragraphs from that post #1782 page 72

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...e-you-are-right.1013696/page-72#post-29525073

Port's initial licence bid in early 1994 before the tender rules were set up, was to field a team in the AFL with its base at Alberton and use Footy Park. That's happened. It also wanted to have another team in the SANFL and use Alberton oval as its base and home ground. It would invite the SANFL to have directors on its board, but not control. [See pages 8 and 9 of the SANFL's official publication - South Australian Football 1994 Year Book published in May 1994 for the summary of the proposal by Port, Glenelg/South, Norwood/Sturt and The Cartel (ie other 4clubs)

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So in 1994 and 1995 there were compromises left right and centre by Port and the SANFL because of this fear of a great club was going to be too strong and powerful. remember at the end of 1994 the crows were floundering. had sacked Cornes at the end of the season and 1995 wasn't that great a year either.

 

[Us against the rest]

That is wrong. We wanted a presence in the SANFL. In 1990 we didn't have time to worry about if we moved lock stock and barrel to the AFL as it was 3.5 weeks between starting the talks with the AFL and the media leak and then the shit hit the fan and soon after you had the court injunction where we couldn't talk to the AFL. In 1994 before the the tender rules were announced we stated we wanted a team in the AFL and a team in the SANFL but no SANFL control of our licence. When the tender rules were set up we went for a split of the club into 2, with Port moving into the AFL but setting up the Magpies as a separate entity. I wrote a long post about this including the club's 2002 fact sheet about how things happened between August 1994 and the end of 1996. I will cut and paste 2 paragraphs from that post #1782 page 72

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...e-you-are-right.1013696/page-72#post-29525073

Port's initial licence bid in early 1994 before the tender rules were set up, was to field a team in the AFL with its base at Alberton and use Footy Park. That's happened. It also wanted to have another team in the SANFL and use Alberton oval as its base and home ground. It would invite the SANFL to have directors on its board, but not control. [See pages 8 and 9 of the SANFL's official publication - South Australian Football 1994 Year Book published in May 1994 for the summary of the proposal by Port, Glenelg/South, Norwood/Sturt and The Cartel (ie other 4clubs)

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So in 1994 and 1995 there were compromises left right and centre by Port and the SANFL because of this fear of a great club was going to be too strong and powerful. remember at the end of 1994 the crows were floundering. had sacked Cornes at the end of the season and 1995 wasn't that great a year either.

I do recall it be very messy, not an easy transition into the AFL. Strange as it may seem the thing i remember most was KG on crow aa almost in tears saying, it's done it just needs a rubber stamp, Port are going to the AFL. After that it started getting nasty, the Glenelg thing and then the Crows, their were some very Glenelg orientated things happening at the time, especially with the Crows, Cornes as coach. The whole thing had very anti Port theme about it and it's never been good since.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Hopefully Summertons gear is sitting out in the parking lot tomorrow next to the space reserved for the Mayor.

 

[finbarr]

Hopefully Summertons gear is sitting out in the parking lot tomorrow next to the space reserved for the Mayor.

That space needs a fresh coat of paint. I parked in it the other day and it didn't feel all that regal.

 

[LeonLeCornu]

All of you naysayers are going to look miiiightyyy silly when Steven Summerton lifts the Knuckey Cup at Hickinbotham Oval after his high profile transfer to South Adelaide.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I find it ironic that Jeremy Clayton is questioning David Koch's support of the club. David Koch has been a Port Adelaide man since childhood. Jeremy Clayton rocked up in his mid-20's because he couldn't hack it at Norf Melbourne, he figured it'd be too hard to get a gig at WWT and his manager told him to use the Magpies as a path back to the AFL. If not for an injury, he would've pissed off to Richmond after one season here.

Think I'm being harsh or unfair? Take it from the horses mouth; http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...g-jeremy-clayton/story-e6freckc-1226460291660

All of you naysayers are going to look miiiightyyy silly when Steven Summerton lifts the Knuckey Cup at Hickinbotham Oval after his high profile transfer to South Adelaide.

I'm probably opening myself up for a 'thatsthejoke.jpg' here, but I genuinely have absolutely no idea what the Knuckey Cup is.

 

[StrappingTape]

Watch how quickly all the talk around this issue dies down as soon as a decision is made or we force ourselves a deal we are happy with from the SANFL. The transition will happen, Port will get what 6 more senior players back from the other SANFL clubs and what do you know, the sun will still rise and the Magpies only people will still go because they'll see the world hasn't imploded and all the scrutiny will be gone. In the lead up, every man and his dog including from every other ****ing club and supporter base feel like it's their place to put in their two bob, schmozzle.

Also, Summerton should go have a chat with Timmy G and George Fiachi and then try to argue his point that the PAFC isn't really the PAFC because the Magpies are really the Magpies and the Power are leaches. Good luck with that one Stephen.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Did you actually read that which Summerton wrote and Clayton is unapologetically defending?.........

Got the links? I had a uick link at Koche's twitter site and didn't see anything.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Port Adelaide in dispute with it players?? It's a true Port Adelaide tradition.

 

[relapse]

I do recall it be very messy, not an easy transition into the AFL. Strange as it may seem the thing i remember most was KG on crow aa almost in tears saying, it's done it just needs a rubber stamp, Port are going to the AFL. After that it started getting nasty, the Glenelg thing and then the Crows, their were some very Glenelg orientated things happening at the time, especially with the Crows, Cornes as coach. The whole thing had very anti Port theme about it and it's never been good since.

I'm showing my age here, but it would have been on 5AD that you heard it as he didn't move over to 5AA until 1991.

 

[tribey]

Got the links? I had a uick link at Koche's twitter site and didn't see anything.

A copy of Summerton's sledge: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-you-are-right.1013696/page-110#post-29881191

Clayton's Twitter (there's a fair bit of it to trawl through): https://twitter.com/jeremyclayton02

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

thanks tribey

 

[Doctor Feel]

I find it ironic that Jeremy Clayton is questioning David Koch's support of the club. David Koch has been a Port Adelaide man since childhood. Jeremy Clayton rocked up in his mid-20's because he couldn't hack it at Norf Melbourne, he figured it'd be too hard to get a gig at WWT and his manager told him to use the Magpies as a path back to the AFL. If not for an injury, he would've pissed off to Richmond after one season here.

Think I'm being harsh or unfair? Take it from the horses mouth; http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...g-jeremy-clayton/story-e6freckc-1226460291660



I'm probably opening myself up for a 'thatsthejoke.jpg' here, but I genuinely have absolutely no idea what the Knuckey Cup is.

thatsthejoke.jpg? How about thatsthejoke.avi?

 

[Doctor Feel]

Also in response to this thread:

 

[LeonLeCornu]

I'm probably opening myself up for a 'thatsthejoke.jpg' here, but I genuinely have absolutely no idea what the Knuckey Cup is.

You haven't heard of the Knuckey Cup? Next you'll be telling me you don't know what the Steve Hamra Medal is

 

[King_Tredrea]

I'm pretty sure is the enthraling bi-annual (and sometimes tri-annual) blockbuster between South and West

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I'm showing my age here, but it would have been on 5AD that you heard it as he didn't move over to 5AA until 1991.

That would be 5DN 972 AM, I think. Sometime in 1990 I think after the footy season, 5DN moved to FM dial and became 102 FM. Then when the music format failed after dropping news and talk format, they moved back to the AM dial and took over 5AD 1323 AM and at some point that became 5DN before becoming Cruise.

Yep as the following radio info page states 5DN moved to the FM dial in September 1990

http://www.radioinfo.com.au/news/2784
1977 – Australia’s first radio program dedicated entirely to sport commences on 5DN.
.....
* Ken 'KG' Cunningham started with the station in 1977
* Murray Nicoll's award winning live coverage of the Ash Wednesday fires took place in 1983.
* Sept 9, 1990 5DN vanished from the airwaves replaced by the FM music station 102FM.
* Sept 9, 1994 5DN was relaunched as the New 5DN on what was 5AD's old AM frequency.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I'm pretty sure is the enthraling bi-annual (and sometimes tri-annual) blockbuster between South and West

Pretty sure its the name of the South B&F award. Seem to recall ex South great Peter Darley won about 7 of them in the 60's and early 70's

 

[StrappingTape]

I'm showing my age here, but it would have been on 5AD that you heard it as he didn't move over to 5AA until 1991.

at least you haven't lost your memory yet.

 

[StrappingTape]

That would be 5DN 972 AM, I think. Sometime in 1990 I think after the footy season, 5DN moved to FM dial and became 102 FM. Then when the music format failed after dropping news and talk format, they moved back to the AM dial and took over 5AD 1323 AM and at some point that became 5DN before becoming Cruise.

Yep as the following radio info page states 5DN moved to the FM dial in September 1990

http://www.radioinfo.com.au/news/2784
1977 – Australia’s first radio program dedicated entirely to sport commences on 5DN.
.....
* Ken 'KG' Cunningham started with the station in 1977
* Murray Nicoll's award winning live coverage of the Ash Wednesday fires took place in 1983.
* Sept 9, 1990 5DN vanished from the airwaves replaced by the FM music station 102FM.
* Sept 9, 1994 5DN was relaunched as the New 5DN on what was 5AD's old AM frequency.

Dude, you are a living wikipedia!

 

[Jonts]

Read through a fair bit of crap on facebook "from the real PAFC" supporters that will be leaving the club/cheersquad

My question, what on earth are you going to do with your time?

you say how you've been watching this team for the past 30+ years and now your kids do and that your whole life revolves around this footy club and follows it

I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of them return to watching the magpies by round 6 next year, there is only so many times you can line up at centre link

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Dude, you are a living wikipedia!

I used to listen to 5DN a lot and it was a big shock when they moved to FM. I knew it was 1990 but couldn't remember exactly when. I listened to KG's sport show from when it started when I was 13 so I remember 5DN's demise well. I also remember coming home from Sydney one Christmas and being equally shocked a few years later and hearing 5DN left FM and took over and scrapped 5AD. When Bazz and Pilko were on 5AD in the late 1970's and early 1980's and they used to rate 44% of the breakfast radio audience they were one of the most profitable radio stations in the country. 2 great rating old radio stations had become 1 really shitty impoverished one in the space of less than 5 years.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I do recall it be very messy, not an easy transition into the AFL. Strange as it may seem the thing i remember most was KG on crow aa almost in tears saying, it's done it just needs a rubber stamp, Port are going to the AFL. After that it started getting nasty, the Glenelg thing and then the Crows, their were some very Glenelg orientated things happening at the time, especially with the Crows, Cornes as coach. The whole thing had very anti Port theme about it and it's never been good since.

That was the 1990 AFL entry attempt. In 1990 the AFL still had reserves and U/19 and that's why we considered moving lock stock and barrel. It was never our intention in 1990 to be a West Coast ie single team club so keeping the reserves and juniors in the SANFL was a consideration. But as I said before, it was about 3 and half weeks between Bruce Weber started talking to Alan Schwab at the AFL - whilst CEO Ross Oakley was on holidays (5th July) and Mike Sheahan breaking the story (Sunday 27 or 28 or 29 July). Then all hell broke lose and within a week or two the court injunction by Justice Olsson was somehow able to stop us talking to the AFL for a month. So we didn't have time to seriously think about if we were going to have both an AFL and SANFL team.

 

[Dalphonso]

A 10 year player for the Magpies who came from the clubs metro zone and played through all 4 grades....Hes the poster boy for what a large percentage of us want to keep.

Percentages?Where do you get your figures from?

 

[Macca19]

Percentages?Where do you get your figures from?

a) What the club is fighting for
b) Opinions on here and other forums
c) Mabo
d) The vibe