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[Croat tiger]

The infighting has started to flare up again and the reason why,well it's pretty obvious to me it has a lot to do with not making the 8 and the miller sacking.
This has another Pahoff type coup written all over it if the fighting continues.I for one and totally sick of it and I hope that common sense prevails and we stop the bickering and start concentrating on next year strengthening our list so we can have a red hot go finals action.Just my two cents worth,Go tiges!!!

 

[NQTIGER]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

I thought we got rid of the self destruct button, Bloody Richmond we will never learn, this is absolutely crap, and the media are having a field day.

Bring back Ian Wilson .....better still dig up Greame Richmond

 

[Goldust]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

The infighting has started to flare up again and the reason why,well it's pretty obvious to me it has a lot to do with not making the 8 and the miller sacking.
This has another Pahoff type coup written all over it if the fighting continues.I for one and totally sick of it and I hope that common sense prevails and we stop the bickering and start concentrating on next year strengthening our list so we can have a red hot go finals action.Just my two cents worth,Go tiges!!!

Correction Tigerboyz........ALREADY HAS GOT UGLY!!!!!!

 

[Truetiger]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

Correction Tigerboyz........ALREADY HAS GOT UGLY!!!!!!

march said he wil review wallace midseason next year. However I am worried after todays meeting between the 2 that its possible March has already done the review. I doubt it but i have a feeling March will tell Wallace were to go.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

If Wallace is sacked this year, we should protest and force March out of the club

 

[CoggaRules]

Re: March is bad news

and Browny missed and Kellaway retired plus stafford and then Gaspar not too mention Coggs...to be replaced by a backline with an AVG of less than a dozen games ea and Patto about the same...**** all paralells

but you forgot the one that kept on keeping on BJ. The one the whole comp knew was our trade mark, the one that wasnt there this year. The one that when it was there this year ****ed us up again, like it did last year.
Do you know which one? ITs the one that guarantees you kick less scores than the opposition, purely because it has been proven year after year because it was so easy for the opposition to keep it in check. And it was stuck to like glue, week in week out, without any change to the plan. Whos to ****ing say that one move, was the move that gave us the improvement this year hey? I mean he hit brownlow form because of it dont forget. So why in all the shitness of last year, the weekly ritual of 3 on 1 with the same result, didnt TW make that move just once?
BTW, just throwing it out there for discussion dude . No one knows shit here ok? This place is for arguing and debating and not forgetting, pulling each others puds and high fiving, when we have a find.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Re: March is bad news

Gary March is a w***er. He has some sort of agenda going on for sure.He can't shut his F****** mouth anymore.
Take a look back at other clubs who finish a season in the manner we have and the way they carried that monentum on,Hawthorn,Geelong ,Saints come to mind.
They did it by keeping the place vibrant and having everyone from the boot studder up chomping at the bit to get into it again.
Not by getting your own name in the papers by deflecting all the positives away and starting a shit fight. What a w***er.
And for those who crap on about wallace and his spin,when he embarked on his so called 5 year plan,what did you think it meant? That we would be premiers in 5 years?
If you cant see how it's taken 4 years to be where we are now,and how much better off we are than 4 years ago you are kidding yourself.
Time to be realistic and to piss March off.Now.

 

[rocklovelive]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

If Wallace is sacked this year, we WILL protest and force March out of the club

Fixed.

 

[Jurica Stockade]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

Take your blinkers off, Wallet is a control freak and March is taking this from him, rightfully so as well, he has made him accountable, and Wallet does not like it one bit.

Wallet is destablising the club with his big fat ego getting in the way.

It is getting beaten up way more than it should in the media, only because Wallet is a protected species.

 

[beaver fever]

Re: March is bad news

I'd agree with the currently 7-10 statement Beaver. With the amount of young players we have, however, the general trend that would occur in this situation would be improvement.

That's what you would have said at the end of 2006.

 

[Goldust]

Re: March is bad news

DID I hear correctly...ex-player Stephen Ryan is on the list management committee??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[beaver fever]

Re: March is bad news

I've had an absolute gutfull of March and his naive or just plain destructive comments which only serve to cause totally unneccessary turmoil at the club.

What sort of President publicly states that the coach will have ZERO say in what players are recruited? He's put Wallace in a position which no coach could or should have to accept. Broke country horse trainers don't accept those kind of ridiculous terms, why should a respected and talented AFL coach who knows he'll earn just as good if not better money elsewhere without having to constantly wonder where the next knife in the back is going to come from?

What sort of President puts his senior coach under unneccessary pressure in the September before the final year of his contract?

What sort of President lets the Tony Free debacle sit where he left it?

I'm not going to give him much credit for the advances we've made off the field, because the majority of them have clearly come from the vision and business acumen of Wright.

The media's off our backs for once, we've gained a tiny bit of respect back from the football world with our efforts this year, so WTF is our President doing virtually single-handedly creating harmful innuendo to drown us in during the off-season when the club's supporters should be looking forward to finals next year and our long awaited era of playing regular finals?

I wish he'd call a press conference, stick a Concept Sports garment falling apart with the inflated price sticker still attached in his mouth and recite 'I'm here to make a fool out of the club I pretend to lead' until the journo's walk away and his clown mates come and collect him, then usher him off to find another tacky company with privileged connections which he can then proceed to bankrupt.

The media cluster**** on the weekend was the last straw and he needs to apologise to Wallace, to the supporters, then take a walk.

March is being honest, and the fact is the truth ain't all that pretty. Where has being softly softly got this football club in the past 25 years? Wallace has done an ok job, but not a great job, so to put pressure on him just goes to show we expect more. Nothing wrong with that in my book.

I think it is a breath of fresh air to hear that our list management team will be given the proper authority to conduct their business, it is their job after all.

As for looking forward to consistent finals appearances, you are having a laugh aren't you?

Also you are wrong about Wallace having no input, he is on the list management sub-committee.

 

[tigertiger]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

I think if they havent got confidence in Wallis at this stage they are not going to get it regardless of what happens next season, if this is the case they should pull the pin now not mid next season.

We have the basis of a very good team now so who ever guides the ship over the next few years is going to have a much easier run the what Wallis has had.

If they stay with Wallis then great if they are convinced we need a change do it now

 

[Bojangles17]

Re: March is bad news

. So why in all the shitness of last year, the weekly ritual of 3 on 1 with the same result, didnt TW make that move just once? BTW, just throwing it out there for discussion dude . No one knows shit here ok? This place is for arguing and debating and not forgetting, pulling each others puds and high fiving, when we have a find.

It did actually occur to me cogg why it took our season to be on the rails before TW considered moving Richo out of the forward line, I mean errr, whats the pre season for and one could argue it too could have cost us being in sept. I am neutral on the coach, the right thing to do is defer negotiations until we are certain he can take us further, right now that is unknown and we would be devastated to again fall short without knowing quantam changes were around the corner

 

[froars]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

Take your blinkers off, Wallet is a control freak and March is taking this from him, rightfully so as well, he has made him accountable, and Wallet does not like it one bit.

Wallet is destablising the club with his big fat ego getting in the way.

It is getting beaten up way more than it should in the media, only because Wallet is a protected species.

How is he being a control freak?
How is he destabilising the club ?

He is the coach FFS, does he not have a say in anything?

Obviously not or he'd be called a destabilising control freak for daring to comment on the club he's been taking from oblivion to somewhere for the last four years

 

[Madtiger2006]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

I think if they havent got confidence in Wallis at this stage they are not going to get it regardless of what happens next season, if this is the case they should pull the pin now not mid next season.

We have the basis of a very good team now so who ever guides the ship over the next few years is going to have a much easier run the what Wallis has had.

If they stay with Wallis then great if they are convinced we need a change do it now

we don't need change

 

[froars]

Re: March is bad news

DID I hear correctly...ex-player Stephen Ryan is on the list management committee??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

OMG where did you hear that

 

[thecotch]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

Everyone just take a deep breath. We're not doing anything different to what the cats or the dogs did after an unacceptable finish on the ladder and I for one am glad the joint is being shaken up.

 

[sante]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

Everyone just take a deep breath. We're not doing anything different to what the cats or the dogs did after an unacceptable finish on the ladder and I for one am glad the joint is being shaken up.

Our club is obviously in a different part of development to where Geelong/Dogs are/were.

 

[thecotch]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

Our club is obviously in a different part of development to where Geelong/Dogs are/were.

Yeah I know but at the end of the day the media needs stuff to write about. I don't see what the problem is with what March said to be honest and it's quite common for a coach to come under a little pressure when contracts are coming up for renewal. At the end of the day if either wallace or march move on who cares? They'll just be replaced. If we're crap again by round 11 next year everone will be saying "I told you so" so it's really a no win situation. Let's not forget the injury gods were good to us this year also which helped us get over the line in a few games. This may not be the case in 09.

 

[CoggaRules]

Re: March is bad news

It did actually occur to me cogg why it took our season to be on the rails before TW considered moving Richo out of the forward line, I mean errr, whats the pre season for and one could argue it too could have cost us being in sept. I am neutral on the coach, the right thing to do is defer negotiations until we are certain he can take us further, right now that is unknown and we would be devastated to again fall short without knowing quantam changes were around the corner

yeah...TW has to run his course...and then we go from there. But he also needs to know that the board is in the business of success for this club, instead of pandering to the supporters' fears, as he so expertly does.
Lets face it,it all comes down to 2 questions eveyone needs to ask themselves.
Irrespective of who can and who cant do "a" job.
Can anyone suggest that the board have anything other than the club's future in mind?
Can anyone suggest, that TW has anything other than the club's future in mind?

Its as simple as that, for those that go gaga at March's comments.

I was and still am to an extent a TW fan, believe it or not. Always thought he had the x factor when planning for "an opponent". As he showed us when coaching the bulldogs and at inermittent times during the last 4 years. But there have been so many "head scratching" moves and wtfs produced by him this year, especially when it comes to being simply outcoached, that i have begun to wonder WTF is going on down there. e.g how does a coach, who we know plans meticulously for an upcoming game, who leaves no stone unturned etc etc, let the team travel to Sydney with one pair of moulded sole boots, when the forecast was for rain? Or the crows game, where there wasnt any sembalnce of a game plan, to address theirs along with any semblance of urgency to actually to produce something in a game that meant so much.
Its just baffling. The only theory i can come up with is he had the handbrake on. i.e. dont go to far up the ladder, because next years "improved season" and north pointing graph would be compromised. The games against the bulldogs and the aints, changed the course of the plan. If we got over the line in those, i am positive he wouldnt have put the handbrake on.

 

[Jurica Stockade]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

How is he being a control freak?
How is he destabilising the club ?

He is the coach FFS, does he not have a say in anything?

Obviously not or he'd be called a destabilising control freak for daring to comment on the club he's been taking from oblivion to somewhere for the last four years

It has been reported that he had spoken to people in regards to getting them in as Millers replacement, who the hell is he to have a say in who his next boss is?

Miller gave him a free reign to do what he wanted and let him control certain things around the club, now that this has gone he has spat the dummy, he knows that he will not have the power and control, as he did when Grug was there, this is why he has sooked up at not being involved in getting the next person in and using the media as his train to try get his own way to get people off side with March and co.

You are exactly right when you say he is the senior coach, that is all he his, he is not there to have a say in who is appointed football manager or not, this is the boards decision.

He is destabilising the club by returning serve on Gary March's comments about the season being a 5/10, he should have just shut his mouth, accepted what March's thoughts were, and then spoken to March quietly if he didnt agree, not using his media buddies to stir up shit.

He is a very clever man, old Wallet, he knows how to put a spin on everything, and spin it his own way. Until people start to see through his crap, like March and the board have, the better off RFC will be.

 

[froars]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

It has been reported that he had spoken to people in regards to getting them in as Millers replacement, who the hell is he to have a say in who his next boss is?

Miller gave him a free reign to do what he wanted and let him control certain things around the club, now that this has gone he has spat the dummy, he knows that he will not have the power and control, as he did when Grug was there, this is why he has sooked up at not being involved in getting the next person in and using the media as his train to try get his own way to get people off side with March and co.

You are exactly right when you say he is the senior coach, that is all he his, he is not there to have a say in who is appointed football manager or not, this is the boards decision.

He is destabilising the club by returning serve on Gary March's comments about the season being a 5/10, he should have just shut his mouth, accepted what March's thoughts were, and then spoken to March quietly if he didnt agree, not using his media buddies to stir up shit.

He is a very clever man, old Wallet, he knows how to put a spin on everything, and spin it his own way. Until people start to see through his crap, like March and the board have, the better off RFC will be.

You're an absolute Joke,
But not surprised from someone who describes his location as "Up a tree" lol
Give me links to all these comments Wallace has supposed to have made.
I've never heard them.
How do you know what Wallace supposedly did or didn't do around the club. Please provide evidence
I haven't heard his reaction to the 5/10 other than reports he was disappointed.

 

[Jurica Stockade]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

You're an absolute Joke,
But not surprised from someone who describes his location as "Up a tree" lol
Give me links to all these comments Wallace has supposed to have made.
I've never heard them.
How do you know what Wallace supposedly did or didn't do around the club. Please provide evidence
I haven't heard his reaction to the 5/10 other than reports he was disappointed.

At least my head is up a tree and not up my arse as yours appears to be, Wallet is a goose and has you believing his spin doctoring.

Do you not listen to radio, watch TV, or read the papers? All had quoted him saying that what March had said was harsh, and that he felt the season was at least a 6.5 out of 10
he would have known damn well that would provoke crap.

 

[CoggaRules]

Re: I've got the feeling this might get ugly

At least my head is up a tree and not up my arse as yours appears to be, Wallet is a goose and has you believing his spin doctoring.

Do you not listen to radio, watch TV, or read the papers? All had quoted him saying that what March had said was harsh, and that he felt the season was at least a 6.5 out of 10
he would have known damn well that would provoke crap.

LMAO...and in the overall scheme of things, its as simple as 1 person saying it was a D- and the other saying it was a D+. Big ****ing deal.
March should have qualified his comment by suggesting that the expected result was at a minimum a C. That would have had TW searching for something else to spin to the tigerheads. Instead of telling them that we are "locked and loaded" and we should lure a "big fish" to get that C.