Solved The Peter Falconio Disappearance

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ms finch said:
I have read - elsewhere not here; I’m not tackling anyone here about this at all - that people think BM is innocent because they have gone to prison and met him and he seems like a nice genuine guy. JFC. Even if you don’t believe he murdered PF he is not a nice guy. He is a despicable lowlife. Some of these people also point to the fact that he maintains his innocence. Right, because all killers confess and if they don’t they are obviously innocent.
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Wait people actually believe Murdoch is a nice guy? JFC now I've heard everything. My uncle was friends with one of Murdoch's brothers when they were in their 20s and my dad would tag along with them often. Occasionally the brother would invite Bradley along as well. Bradley was apparently one of those guys who always gave off bad vibes - was quite creepy and awkward to be around and was quite unashamedly racist. He'd walk around Midland, which has some of Perth's highest concentration of Indigenous Australians, wearing t-shirts brandishing racist slogans, and would talk about wanting to kill black people in a way that left you in no doubt he wasn't joking and was actually seriously considering it. Just an angry, racist, miserable man. Dad hated when Bradley would get dragged along to their nights out. My grandmother was also concerned about both of them hanging out with Murdoch's brother just cause of Bradley.

Dad said when he heard Murdoch had been arrested for the Falconio murder he was not in the least surprised and even before evidence was released his thoughts were "yeah he probably did it." Not that that's any proof whatsoever but my point is it's laughable to hear that people who have met him in prison once or twice think he's a "nice, genuine guy" when people who actually knew him before he was in prison absolutely despised him
 

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SquiffyRae said:
Wait people actually believe Murdoch is a nice guy? JFC now I've heard everything. My uncle was friends with one of Murdoch's brothers when they were in their 20s and my dad would tag along with them often. Occasionally the brother would invite Bradley along as well. Bradley was apparently one of those guys who always gave off bad vibes - was quite creepy and awkward to be around and was quite unashamedly racist. He'd walk around Midland, which has some of Perth's highest concentration of Indigenous Australians, wearing t-shirts brandishing racist slogans, and would talk about wanting to kill black people in a way that left you in no doubt he wasn't joking and was actually seriously considering it. Just an angry, racist, miserable man. Dad hated when Bradley would get dragged along to their nights out. My grandmother was also concerned about both of them hanging out with Murdoch's brother just cause of Bradley.

Dad said when he heard Murdoch had been arrested for the Falconio murder he was not in the least surprised and even before evidence was released his thoughts were "yeah he probably did it." Not that that's any proof whatsoever but my point is it's laughable to hear that people who have met him in prison once or twice think he's a "nice, genuine guy" when people who actually knew him before he was in prison absolutely despised him
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He may have done some bad things but he is no killer, and as for being racist, lol! While in Alice Springs jail he ran a mechanical workshop teaching aboriginal inmates various skills and together they built a buggy from off cuts and various donated items to be driven in the Finke outback race by jail officers. Brad named the buggy 'Fugly' and it is still used for the Finke races.The inmates loved those workshop lessons and it gave them a entirely new outlook and sense of achievement,in fact Brad was TOO well liked and popular that they sent him to Darwin prison where he remains today.
 

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Tues said:
He may have done some bad things but he is no killer, and as for being racist, lol! While in Alice Springs jail he ran a mechanical workshop teaching aboriginal inmates various skills and together they built a buggy from off cuts and various donated items to be driven in the Finke outback race by jail officers. Brad named the buggy 'Fugly' and it is still used for the Finke races.The inmates loved those workshop lessons and it gave them a entirely new outlook and sense of achievement,in fact Brad was TOO well liked and popular that they sent him to Darwin prison where he remains today.
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You conveniently left out the rather important information that Murdoch was sentenced in 1995 to 21 months jail for shooting at a group of indigenous football supporters in remote Kimberley.

Also Murdoch has been moved to different jails in the NT due to the fact it was believed he was gaining too much power over other in mates and stand over tactics. This has been well publicised.

The guy is 100% guilty of shooting Peter Falconio. The reasons for him doing it will be forever be clouded until he himself comes clean which is highly unlikely. As I and others have posted on here in the past... to say Lees was involved is far fetched as Murdoch would have mentioned that the first chance he got.
 
royboys4eva said:
You conveniently left out the rather important information that Murdoch was sentenced in 1995 to 21 months jail for shooting at a group of indigenous football supporters in remote Kimberley.
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Yeah lol Bradley Murdoch's not racist except for the time he went to jail for being a racist. Let's not forget the reason he shot at them was because their football windup caused minor road closures, he had to go the long way home and when he got home he grabbed his gun and drove back specifically to shoot them. Let's think about that for a second. Bradley Murdoch was so incensed by having to drive a little bit out of his way cause of some Indigenous footballers, he stewed about it all the way home, grabbed a gun and then went back specifically to shoot them.

Also I'd argue prison is a great equaliser. I reckon it would be remarkably easy for Bradley to outwardly appear not racist when he's in a NT prison where Indigenous inmates likely outnumber him by a massive amount and if he makes a bunch of racist cracks life will get miserable for him pretty quickly
 
SquiffyRae said:
Yeah lol Bradley Murdoch's not racist except for the time he went to jail for being a racist. Let's not forget the reason he shot at them was because their football windup caused minor road closures, he had to go the long way home and when he got home he grabbed his gun and drove back specifically to shoot them. Let's think about that for a second. Bradley Murdoch was so incensed by having to drive a little bit out of his way cause of some Indigenous footballers, he stewed about it all the way home, grabbed a gun and then went back specifically to shoot them.

Also I'd argue prison is a great equaliser. I reckon it would be remarkably easy for Bradley to outwardly appear not racist when he's in a NT prison where Indigenous inmates likely outnumber him by a massive amount and if he makes a bunch of racist cracks life will get miserable for him pretty quickly
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You also left out the fact he went to the cops and told them what he did and why and handed his guns in.And he did 15 months.
 
PenfoldsFan said:
Couldnt have been JL alone as she didnt leave the scene so she couldnt have disposed of the body and if she had help i think it would have come out by now.
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We don't know the timing of anything, or if JL left the scene, for all we know it could have happened much earlier and she was dropped off back at the scene and she hid for a few minutes then ran when she saw the truck.
I don't believe a word she says.
 

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Deni said:
We don't know the timing of anything, or if JL left the scene, for all we know it could have happened much earlier and she was dropped off back at the scene and she hid for a few minutes then ran when she saw the truck.
I don't believe a word she says.
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Nothing is certain but any variation would need to fit the known timeline in the lead up.
The Kombi was in poor mechanical condition so you need to factor in time and distance, if they were seen in a certain place at a certain time and this is verified, time and distance can be calculated.
I think if that didnt fit to the point that there were gaping holes or inconsistencies we'd know by now.

We know the Kombi went no further from the documented milage kept by the pair so if JL left the scene she had help and an extra vehicle, why has this never come out, who cares enough about a british tourist to keep that hush and what was the motive for getting involved in the first place.

whilst i like to keep an open mind, personally i find these type of alternative scenario's harder to believe than the official story and i only believe half of that.

You need to look at the big picture, the milage on the Kombi suggests they went to Sedan during their time in SA, there is nothing in Sedan worth seeing for a tourist and if you did happen to go out there why not go further to see things worthwhile, then consider they were supposedly attacked 2k kms away from that tiny non descript town by a guy known to run drugs from there and the chances of that being coincidental deminish, so with that in mind they obviously knew BM prior to the event, and the obvious answer is the drugs from Sedan, so why then would JL get involved in a plot to murder her boyfriend in the middle of an obvious drug run.
 
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PenfoldsFan said:
Nothing is certain but any variation would need to fit the known timeline in the lead up.
The Kombi was in poor mechanical condition so you need to factor in time and distance, if they were seen in a certain place at a certain time and this is verified, time and distance can be calculated.
I think if that didnt fit to the point that there were gaping holes or inconsistencies we'd know by now.

We know the Kombi went no further from the documented milage kept by the pair so if JL left the scene she had help and an extra vehicle, why has this never come out, who cares enough about a british tourist to keep that hush and what was the motive for getting involved in the first place.

whilst i like to keep an open mind, personally i find these type of alternative scenario's harder to believe than the official story and i only believe half of that.

You need to look at the big picture, the milage on the Kombi suggests they went to Sedan during their time in SA, there is nothing in Sedan worth seeing for a tourist and if you did happen to go out there why not go further to see things worthwhile, then consider they were supposedly attacked 2k kms away from that tiny non descript town by a guy known to run drugs from there and the chances of that being coincidental deminish, so with that in mind they obviously knew BM prior to the event, and the obvious answer is the drugs from Sedan, so why then would JL get involved in a plot to murder her boyfriend in the middle of an obvious drug run.
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And why did he pull them in particular over in the first place? I dunno if he'd pull over just any car to kill the occupants. He could have met them during a drug purchase or seen them otherwise previously and took a fancy to her. He killed PF straight off but didn't kill her because he wanted to take her somewhere away from the main highway for obvious reasons.
 
PenfoldsFan said:
Nothing is certain but any variation would need to fit the known timeline in the lead up.
The Kombi was in poor mechanical condition so you need to factor in time and distance, if they were seen in a certain place at a certain time and this is verified, time and distance can be calculated.
I think if that didnt fit to the point that there were gaping holes or inconsistencies we'd know by now.

We know the Kombi went no further from the documented milage kept by the pair so if JL left the scene she had help and an extra vehicle, why has this never come out, who cares enough about a british tourist to keep that hush and what was the motive for getting involved in the first place.

whilst i like to keep an open mind, personally i find these type of alternative scenario's harder to believe than the official story and i only believe half of that.

You need to look at the bigger picture, the milage on the Kombi suggests they went to Sedan during their time in SA, there is nothing in Sedan worth seeing for a tourist and if you did happen to go out there why not go further to see things worthwhile, then consider they were supposedly attacked 2k kms away from that tiny non descript town by a guy known to run drugs from there and the chances of that being coincidental deminish, so with that in mind they obviously knew BM prior to the event, and the obvious answer is the drugs from Sedan, so why then would JL get involved in a plot to murder her boyfriend in the middle of an obvious drug run.
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Seeings i'm minor admin in the group Tues is talking about, I say minor because it's basically her group and she trusted me enough to make me admin..
We do disagree with a couple of things though, Tues thinks he may still be alive, but I think he's dead. But not shot at the Kombi, there wasn't enough DNA to prove to me that he was shot there, although i'm no expert, it was a watery substance, a very small amount of blood that ants wouldn't even touch, proving it was contaminated, with what?

In the latest show that she has put the links in above, the truck driver has come out and said he saw some strange things ahead of him with some men and a car, one of the men seemed out of it, or wobbly, I can't remember the actual term he used, but he said he was thrown into the back of the car and driven off..

Her lack of injuries and dirt on her body and clothing, I don't remember if there were any manacle marks on her wrists but if she had wiggled them from the back to the front then they would have cut into her wrists?

She would have been scratched up more than small cuts on her knees.

The truck driver saying she was hot when she ran to him, whereas if she didn't have far to run, and by all accounts she was close to him, she would have been very cold still..

When she said Bradley threw her in the back of his car from the front, that would have been impossible, there was a window there.

She got the breed of dog completely wrong, you could never confuse a Heeler with a Dalmation, Heelers don't have spots..

The identikit picture of him and his ute at the petrol station, that wasn't his ute and the image of him was all wrong, he looked more like Roman Heinz than Bradley, and we have no idea how long Roman had been doing his evil deads among the dark roads of the outback..

They say there was a small patch on the back of her top that had Bradleys DNA on it, if the cops had believed that was his, then why didn't anyone bring up the fact that when he 'pushed' her into the back of the ute from the front, he could have put it on her then instead of elsewhere, but that was impossible because, he couldn't push her through the window that was between the front seats and back of the ute and if he had, she would have had more of his DNA on her clothing, that doesn't fly with me..

Why no DNA found anywhere else on the Combi?

Her changing her story several times to match what the police told her, I can't put my finger on just one time but there were a few, like in the recreation, she proved that she couldn't have got out of his car the way she did.
Now you might say she was terrified, anybody would be, but i'm sure I would have had the frame of mind to remember every little thing I could and she came across as a very strong woman so it didn't fly with me that she contradicted herself several times..

And other small things, like there being nothing of Peters things in the Combi, as far as I know they didn't even find a pair of jocks, well maybe he went commando, but there were other things that should have been there if they were doing such a long trip, but weren't there..

The Aboriginal tracker, he was reputed to be one of the best, but he found nothing then, i'm not sure how much longer it was but a lip gloss was found, there was no way the tracker could have missed that but it was said to look like it had only just been dropped there, perhaps in the recreation?
 
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PenfoldsFan said:
Nothing is certain but any variation would need to fit the known timeline in the lead up.
The Kombi was in poor mechanical condition so you need to factor in time and distance, if they were seen in a certain place at a certain time and this is verified, time and distance can be calculated.
I think if that didnt fit to the point that there were gaping holes or inconsistencies we'd know by now.

We know the Kombi went no further from the documented milage kept by the pair so if JL left the scene she had help and an extra vehicle, why has this never come out, who cares enough about a british tourist to keep that hush and what was the motive for getting involved in the first place.

whilst i like to keep an open mind, personally i find these type of alternative scenario's harder to believe than the official story and i only believe half of that.

You need to look at the big picture, the milage on the Kombi suggests they went to Sedan during their time in SA, there is nothing in Sedan worth seeing for a tourist and if you did happen to go out there why not go further to see things worthwhile, then consider they were supposedly attacked 2k kms away from that tiny non descript town by a guy known to run drugs from there and the chances of that being coincidental deminish, so with that in mind they obviously knew BM prior to the event, and the obvious answer is the drugs from Sedan, so why then would JL get involved in a plot to murder her boyfriend in the middle of an obvious drug run.
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The Kombi had a extra 11 km on the milage, forensics didn't check the back of the Kombi for gunshot residue as,in their words...'there was no evidence of a gun being fired'. The only blood found was a small pool which contained approx. 250 mil and 2 small drops ...forensics again,Carmen Ekhoff.."the blood pool was precise, and looking at that along with the two single drops it seems almost as if the blood was poured onto the roadway and the small drops occurred when the container was held upright...". The blood, according to Black trackers was either very old or tainted as no insect would go near it. I would like to know why Joanne Lees purchased a single plane ticket for herself from Alice Springs airport on their way out to be used for a flight from Brisbane to Sydney, and why did they stop at a caravan park for Pete to shower and change into fresh clothes while she remained in the same clothes she wore all day and while Pete showered she rang a 'friend'....where is the ciggie butt which Pete lit as he got out of the Kombi? Where are his ciggies and lighter, his wallet, his divers watch, his St Christophers medal, the book titled 'A Catcher in the Rye' which he was reading before falling asleep before they reached Ti Tree and which he wanted to finish....why did they change plans and head north instead of their intention of going to Broome from Uluru, leaving in the late afternoon in a clapped out kombi running on 3 cylinders against the mechanics advice of not going far and not at night as the vehicle was backfiring a lot and had poor headlights....
 
In a signed statement there are the words....'Pommie Pete was well and truly alive when we drove him across the border but he copped a hiding for doing what he did...' What did he do? Try and do a runner with a drug delivery meant for Broome and Hepi?
 
PenfoldsFan said:
Nothing is certain but any variation would need to fit the known timeline in the lead up.
The Kombi was in poor mechanical condition so you need to factor in time and distance, if they were seen in a certain place at a certain time and this is verified, time and distance can be calculated.
I think if that didnt fit to the point that there were gaping holes or inconsistencies we'd know by now.

We know the Kombi went no further from the documented milage kept by the pair so if JL left the scene she had help and an extra vehicle, why has this never come out, who cares enough about a british tourist to keep that hush and what was the motive for getting involved in the first place.

whilst i like to keep an open mind, personally i find these type of alternative scenario's harder to believe than the official story and i only believe half of that.

You need to look at the big picture, the milage on the Kombi suggests they went to Sedan during their time in SA, there is nothing in Sedan worth seeing for a tourist and if you did happen to go out there why not go further to see things worthwhile, then consider they were supposedly attacked 2k kms away from that tiny non descript town by a guy known to run drugs from there and the chances of that being coincidental deminish, so with that in mind they obviously knew BM prior to the event, and the obvious answer is the drugs from Sedan, so why then would JL get involved in a plot to murder her boyfriend in the middle of an obvious drug run.
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The only reason I can think of why she would get involved was she was head over heels for someone else and having a rampant affair.

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Tues said:
In a signed statement there are the words....'Pommie Pete was well and truly alive when we drove him across the border but he copped a hiding for doing what he did...' What did he do? Try and do a runner with a drug delivery meant for Broome and Hepi?
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No doubt, id say Hepi/murdoch we're using back packers to move the gear from Sedan to Broome to avoid detection from LE, only i think LE were well aware of what was happening and watching it all unfold.
I think Pete realised he was in the middle of it all and is probably the reason for the argument in AS. JL makes plans to return to Sydney and he plans to head elsewhere. Late in the afternoon, believing no one will follow them up the highway at that time of day they get out of Dodge, only problem is they clearly didnt factor in that the guys who owned the gear werent afraid of heading out after them.
They are caught, he's taken and she's left in BM's care to deal with cleaning up the mess and was probably hiding out in the kombi until the truck came by.
Glad to avoid the fete of Pete she vow's to keep her mouth shut about what really transpired and is allowed to go.
She gets picked up and begins telling a story which vaguely resembles the truth minus the drugs and associated people until BM's DNA is found on her shirt and Kombi and cant deny the science.
He knows its safer to keep his mouth shut as hes facing time regardless and tries to make up a defence for the transfer that keeps their business relationship out of it.
LE decide its easier to forget they ever knew of JH/BM activities than admit a british citizen was murdered on their watch and wait for the right time to officially connect the dots.
Hepi gets chatted, does a deal to fit his now enemy BM, sets him up with the friends from Sedan giving LE their much needed scientific link and the case is managed accordingly.

Sorry Brad, you're DNA is on her shirt, you vaguely resemble the guy she said pulled them over, your ute fits the description sorta and you have that dog, game, set, match.
 
Tues said:
In a signed statement there are the words....'Pommie Pete was well and truly alive when we drove him across the border but he copped a hiding for doing what he did...' What did he do? Try and do a runner with a drug delivery meant for Broome and Hepi?
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how did the drugs Murdoch and Hepi apparently transported regularly from Sedan to Broome, get to Sedan in the first place? Did PF and JL have a drop off arranged for Sedan and BM, but short changed him by keeping some of the stash?
 
Krusty Crab said:
how did the drugs Murdoch and Hepi apparently transported regularly from Sedan to Broome, get to Sedan in the first place? Did PF and JL have a drop off arranged for Sedan and BM, but short changed him by keeping some of the stash?
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If the 'stash' was pot, it would have been grown there.
 
Tues said:
It was Hydro grown locally for Hepi.
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Yes, agreed, but many people believe there may have been other types of drugs involved.
I dont, coming from Sedan it would have been hydro and top quality.

What are your thoughts on my suggested scenario in post #271?
 

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