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[Dard Ball Get]

Kind of ignorant.
I don't think you realize the amount of engineering that goes into airbag protection and crumple zones in modern vehicles.
( and i'd class the Getz as one ).
By no means the safest on the road they are way better than the older generations of small cars , Ford Fiesta's and the like.

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Just going by the stars can be misleading too.
Sometimes the difference between 3 and 4 stars can be a sensor in the passenger seat that the seatbelt is on.

Pretty sure the oldest of the Torana's ( Opel Hotrods ) were nothing safe in an accident. And before Holden decided it would be good if their cars went round corners (RTS), they were horrid accidents waiting to happen.

Don’t care mate x

 

[StFly]

Update to previous situation: don't F with a fly for he has mates.

So, after one mousey decided to piss me off and start moving around late at night, all was peaceful, he died for his sins, I got an electric trap and chortled happily about little creatures in my domain getting zapped by zeus. Then, it happened, he had mates and I had crispy tofu.

So one mousey got the idea of a black cylinder thing with peanut butter in there was not at all odd or a thing to be wary of, walked right in for noms and I got a green light and washing.
Then one mousey interrupted my work by darting across the floor during it to the shit trap I had never bothered to move, took a nibble and he too scared me shitless by actually getting gazumped by it when I fully expected it'll just not do anything and he'll run back to his house under the house.
Just now, I had sat down to eat fajita's after I had cooked them and almost gassed myself since waaay too much pepper and who closed all these windows when I had them open for a reason goddamnit, and my old man calls me in just as I sat down to eat it, having moved his recliner and there is mousey 3, also dead.

Moral of the story: my friends > your friends, as they come with batteries.

Also, Fajita's were a miss, when I say way too much pepper I mean in the act of re-opening windows so I could stop coughing, it burned so horribly that nothing could save it. Took one bite and my throat is only now recovering from that horror. Mexican is dangerous cooking.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Same, ordered a Corrolla at a cheap car hire, turned up and got a bright yellow Getz. It was a frightening experience on a freeway.

The worst car I got at a hire was a Suzuki micro car in Noosa. It was an auto and going up a hill with aircon on to de-mist the windows would make it feel like it was in danger of stopping. It was going at about 10kmph by the time we hit the top of the hill.

Got a s**t Renault in france too, ordered a Mondeo and got a French micro car. It looked like a Mr Bean car and your luggage had to sit on the kids laps. The French gave zero shits and said that was all they had left and that was one of the big companies. I think it was Hertz.

They have fine print in place so they win the argument ( Ford Mondeo -or similar ).Oh look it has doors and wheels, its similar . My wife's Astra Wagon in Venice turned out to be a Citroen Hatch, and the 3 and a baby and luggage were not going to fit. So then they gave her a huge Fiat Van. It hardly fit on some of the little Italian back roads and the tiny 1.3l diesel screamed on the Autostrada's .

When they got to the Villa where they were staying the people they were meeting up with, had hired their car in France and driven it there, they'd had to accept the same big Fiat Van.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Don’t care mate x

Don't care if you care chum.

 

[gringo2011]

Kind of ignorant.
I don't think you realize the amount of engineering that goes into airbag protection and crumple zones in modern vehicles.
( and i'd class the Getz as one ).
By no means the safest on the road they are way better than the older generations of small cars , Ford Fiesta's and the like.

Hyundai Getz Safety Rating & Report | ANCAP

Explore ANCAP hyundai Crash Test Ratings

www.ancap.com.au

Just going by the stars can be misleading too.
Sometimes the difference between 3 and 4 stars can be a sensor in the passenger seat that the seatbelt is on.

Pretty sure the oldest of the Torana's ( Opel Hotrods ) were nothing safe in an accident. And before Holden decided it would be good if their cars went round corners (RTS), they were horrid accidents waiting to happen.

I'd still rather be in a old tank against the Getz in a head-on accident. Physics means safety measures can only do so much. Like a lemon and brick thrown at each other and meeting mid-air. Against another lemon you might be okay and as far as tiny dangerous boxes go it is probably good. Give me hitting something in land cruiser over a hatchback though.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Gee whizz lighten up
Its all opinion and shit posting chat

 

[George]

The answer to this is emotional boomers. They're everywhere

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I'd still rather be in a old tank against the Getz in a head-on accident. Physics means safety measures can only do so much. Like a lemon and brick thrown at each other and meeting mid-air. Against another lemon you might be okay and as far as tiny dangerous boxes go it is probably good. Give me hitting something in land cruiser over a hatchback though.

Fair comment.
Personally i don't buy a car to crash it. If everyone used the logic that they should have a heavier car to survive accidents better than the others , you end up in a biggest heaviest brick contest. Also higher, because everyone wants to see over the top of all the other cars.
Cars are getting bigger and heavier all the time, a guy i know who was a mini enthusiast for years ended up scared to drive one.
I prefer to commute in heavy slow traffic in a smaller car, and drive longer distances in something a bit bigger.
My son actually has my little fwd shitbox now , so i'm stuck with a bigger suv.
Once when i had the shitbox, my daughter got in, and put her feet up on the dash , " i'm not going to wear the seatbelt , if you crash the airbag will save me " I replied " see that hollow in the dashboard where you throw your sunglasses, that's where the optional passenger side airbag goes ".

Aussie type SRS airbags ( and euro ) work better than the USA ones, but that's because they "assume" you are wearing a seatbelt, where the American system assumes you aren't. If you don't wear a seatbelt there is a chance that the airbag will kill you.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

 

[StFly]

The answer to this is emotional boomers. They're everywhere

So chum wasn't an adage for mate and in fact it was a cry for an emotional support boomer and we should be reporting this to some manner of health department is what you're saying, or police since you know trafficking of indentured servants and all.

I think we've uncovered something here! Move aside lizard people we have boomers to hunt.

 

[gringo2011]

Fair comment.
Personally i don't buy a car to crash it. If everyone used the logic that they should have a heavier car to survive accidents better than the others , you end up in a biggest heaviest brick contest. Also higher, because everyone wants to see over the top of all the other cars.
Cars are getting bigger and heavier all the time, a guy i know who was a mini enthusiast for years ended up scared to drive one.
I prefer to commute in heavy slow traffic in a smaller car, and drive longer distances in something a bit bigger.
My son actually has my little fwd shitbox now , so i'm stuck with a bigger suv.
Once when i had the shitbox, my daughter got in, and put her feet up on the dash , " i'm not going to wear the seatbelt , if you crash the airbag will save me " I replied " see that hollow in the dashboard where you throw your sunglasses, that's where the optional passenger side airbag goes ".

Aussie type SRS airbags ( and euro ) work better than the USA ones, but that's because they "assume" you are wearing a seatbelt, where the American system assumes you aren't. If you don't wear a seatbelt there is a chance that the airbag will kill you.

I drive around in my work van Hiace...they always get rated the most dangerous car for on the road for deaths because there is no bonnet and lots of them. I have a bulbar on it but I think that just adds a leg remover. I try not to crash it.

The Subaru is meant to be 5 star rated but feels pretty flimsy. I'm not sure how they get their stars but think most of it is bullshit anyway.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Its all good


I love the look of some of the suv, not the jacked up full on bush ones but some of the modern caravan speedboat towing type do look nice, its just i have no need to drive one
I dont have a boat or van

Ive looked inside one of the fairly newish rangers and they look nice and have all the gadgets etc

The top of the range models do look nice
The range rovers etc

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I drive around in my work van Hiace...they always get rated the most dangerous car for on the road for deaths because there is no bonnet and lots of them. I have a bulbar on it but I think that just adds a leg remover. I try not to crash it.

The Subaru is meant to be 5 star rated but feels pretty flimsy. I'm not sure how they get their stars but think most of it is bullshit anyway.

Yeah the old forward control Mitsubishi vans i think were rated as worst car ever in a crash.
Feeling flimsy can be a misnomer, crash safety all depends on the underlying engineering.
Lots of little detail things too.
I saw Holden crash a ute, because they wanted to verify an accessory pack. They found that the hard lid could come in through the back window and hit the driver in the back of the neck. They fixed that, but i'd say most of the aftermarket ute lids are never tested.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Its all good


I love the look of some of the suv, not the jacked up full on bush ones but some of the modern caravan speedboat towing type do look nice, its just i have no need to drive one
I dont have a boat or van

Ive looked inside one of the fairly newish rangers and they look nice and have all the gadgets etc

The top of the range models do look nice
The range rovers etc

Gee they ask some dollars for them now.

My friend had an old Pajero , he'd kept it in good nick and still liked driving it, especially he liked that he could go off road with it, but i still drove like a car around the city.
Mitsubishi had to recall it because of airbag issues (Takata ), and because it was an older model, it wasn't fixed he was paid out and it went to the crusher.
He got good money for it.
Now he has a Prado and an Audi Q7. He says the Prado is very truck like to drive compared to the old Pajero, big and lumbering and it sucks down Diesel. He likes how his Audi drives , and its much more economical, but he says it just feels too big.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

My first car was an 850cc mini moke with twin su carbs and extractors. Sounded like a hot rod when you backed off

 

[Saintos The ITK]

I had to put a foam mattress in the back when I went to the drive in and wear a wwii army great coat in winter. Plus it had a dead moth stuck inside the Speedo I couldn’t get out.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Was driving down the highway one day with three mates all stoned and pissed off our heads. A cop car shadowed us in the next lane staring straight at us for about a k and a half. We all just stared straight ahead shitting our pants. They ended up just driving off. I didn’t have a licence either.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Green over tan classic Porsches. Cliche, yes - but for good reason

 

[gringo2011]

Yeah the old forward control Mitsubishi vans i think were rated as worst car ever in a crash.
Feeling flimsy can be a misnomer, crash safety all depends on the underlying engineering.
Lots of little detail things too.
I saw Holden crash a ute, because they wanted to verify an accessory pack. They found that the hard lid could come in through the back window and hit the driver in the back of the neck. They fixed that, but i'd say most of the aftermarket ute lids are never tested.

Yeah, my brother in law is an engineer and he worked at Holden when he started out. All those things like engines designed to drop down and out under the car and cramp zones etc all help make a pretty flimsy car safe but still like steel.

A friend of my other brother in law got hit in a new Jag SUV and that thing had rear collision sensors so prepared the cabin for impact. The guy reckons they were stopped at light and the car started beeping and moved the steering column, locked belts and started feathering the brakes. Reckons it took a full-on 50km hour hit with kids in the back and everyone walked out of the wreck.

The Subarus have that eye sight system that is meant to stop you ramming people. Haven't tested it yet. The intuitive cruise is pretty good in them though.

My mum changed her Prius to a Corolla hybrid, that has a good intuitive cruise and are close to self drive now. I drove it on a freeway and they have lane hold and intuitive cruise. I'm not sure what she paid for it but it's what I assume is a pretty budget car and it's not like what Corollas used to be. Pretty decent little car.

 

[gringo2011]

Green over tan classic Porsches. Cliche, yes - but for good reason

Yeah, that's a nice ride. I'm still eyeing off a Range Rover classic 2 door. It would look pretty sweet in that combo.

 

[DougalHoward]

I'm always seeing old men driving Porsches

 

[Dard Ball Get]

I'm always seeing old men driving Porsches

Well, not many young ones have the means

 

[Mowman]

In Law has 2 1956 356s
red and Blue

 

[DougalHoward]

Well, not many young ones have the means

Just seems a bit desperate