The Review

[hey shorty]

This f....g club. Can they not get the most basic stuff right?

In what world does the CEO review his own organisation.

Gale took leave when Richmond did theirs

Did a spot of reading up about that review, Ernst and Young were brought in due to a board member working for them, similar conflict of interest to what we thought we might get with KPMG.

Also, Gale wasn't away for the entire review, in fact he led the beginning of it.

 

[pjcrows]

The CEO is on the external review panel of his own organisation?

That can't be right.

 

[hey shorty]

The CEO is on the external review panel of his own organisation?

That can't be right.

You wouldn't think so...... but if he is you just watch the pressure ramp up.

 

[Tex200]

Did a spot of reading up about that review, Ernst and Young were brought in due to a board member working for them, similar conflict of interest to what we thought we might get with KPMG.

Also, Gale wasn't away for the entire review, in fact he led the beginning of it.

With respect these are pretty minor points don’t you think?

I mean the context is Fagan, the CEO, sitting on the external review panel.

Isn’t that really the issue ?

 

[SugarShane]

The stink from Tippettgate still lingers, at a time when absolute transparency was a non-negotiable, we again got treated like mushrooms in the dark and fed BS. Still to this day I'm waiting on the club to explain the Tippettgate scandal fully and thoroughly, just like Trigg said he would. He didn't and the club didn't, hiding behind the threat of a potential lawsuit. This was strike two for Trigg who demanded a second chance, but as we all know, the club backed him in, as they always do. Rendell didn't get a second chance, but we're told by those I have zero trust in that his situation was different. What horse crap, of course it was different, Rendell didn't do nearly as much damage to the clubb as Trigg.

In fact, the whole "backing people in" seems to be a Chapman thing, one thing that really irks me from this week's interviews was listening to Chapman be confronted with exactly that term and he said that you always back the people in. All I could think was that the club knowingly misleads its supporters even in the face of supporters absolutely rotten at the club for misleading them. It's the same stupid attitude that kept Trigg around, you want to appease a supporter base that let you take a squad that should have made a Grand Final and probably won a premiership from last decade and mess that up because you refused to acknowledge your boy Neil Craig was never capable of coaching a team to an AFL premiership, to then show how arrogant you really are with the Tippett debacle and then you make almost zero changes to the club while trotting out a bunch of excuses, you are walking a tight line and the fans will no longer sit idly by.

This has frustrated me for some time and I still haven't fully expressed how f*ckin furious I am at this club's arrogance and leadership failures. The club HAD to sack Trigg and Chapman is the cancer that still remains which couldn't do the right thing when it was needed. Hearing their BS that only Trigg was capable of doing the Adelaide Oval move was a massive load of crap, they will say anything to us to get away with doing things their way instead of doing things the right way. So they sacrificed Sanderson as a way to appease very angry fans as if it was Sanderson's fault the club got itself into the sh*tty position it did, all while Trigg arrogantly referred to passionate fans demanding what the hell is going on as "agitators". What a piece of sh*t and Chapman stood behind him. I'm not saying Sanderson shouldn't have been moved on, what I'm saying is the reason he was moved on was because it was beneficial for those in the club to justify keeping their jobs when they also should have been moved on, it was the whole "look, we're making the tough decisions for the club by getting rid of the senior coach, we are clearly the best for the job and you agitators need to shut up and back us in without question". Truth is Sanderson was a scapegoat who was only sacked because of us "agitators", the club would have backed him in if things weren't so bad for the club at that time, I genuinely believe that, but maybe I'm wrong, however, the club has given me zero reason to think otherwise.

So I though "fine", I'll sit by and suffer the club's BS, however, the club better give me a premiership before the decade is out, that was my deal. I was stupid, to think the same mob that refused to take accountability for their actions would be able to actually deliver a premiership was me foolishly giving the club the benefit of the doubt. Well, no more, they've used up every bit of currency they had and then some. The reason so many fans are so aggressively angry towards them is because those running the club are still trying to cover their rear ends rather than take accountability. The only reason we got rid of Trigg is because Trigg left on his own terms, probably organised behind the scenes with his mate Chapman and his mates on the board, yet again giving the middle finger to fans, but boy was it a relief when he was out the door, even though the club failed to sack him earlier on when it was really needed. At the time it gave me something to hope for even though I knew they had dealt with Trigg in a selfish and intentionally unaccountable way, it was their way of telling the fans to shut up and deal with the fact the club will run itself the way it chooses, no matter how many failures they have and how much they damage the club's brand, because they don't report to us, we can't replace them.

The only reason we're having this review is the club couldn't get away with not having one. They tried so hard not to have an external review, yet again giving the middle finger to the fans. Shut up and back in the failed personal that the club refuse to move on is the message we're being told lout and clear. Being called customers and agitators and being told to barrack for another club isn't the club slipping up, it's clearly their attitude and the same people are there and won't leave until they decide to leave and we can't do a damn thing about it and it's making me really, really angry. I don't think I'll ever be cool with this club again until everyone that is there has moved on (I can't say "be moved on" because the club won't do it, they couldn't even move on Trigg who HAD to be moved on for the integrity of the club). Chapman is a cancer that won't leave, we have to suffer him until the day he decides to go, he shouldn't get to leave on his own terms, he is a failure and a message needs to be sent loud can clear "enough is enough". But us fans don't have that power and now you all know why you don't have that power, it's because they don't want you to have that power, they want to hoard the power to protect themselves.

An external review at the end of the season which will mainly only have the reviewers interact with non-players and won't see how the club actually runs during a football season is either another calculated decision by the club to simultaneously dismiss the fans concerns and to protect themselves, or it's just another massive failure of a club so out of touch with reality they continue to think doing things the wrong way is a-ok all because it was them that made the decision and they are deluded with thinking that they always make the correct decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if those in charge aren't already closing ranks to mislead the external review so that very little will change. There will be scapegoats, but it won't be those who need to be sacked. I could be flat out wrong, but when the club continue to feed me BS, lie and misinform me on purpose, how could I possibly trust this club to do the right thing now?

When I hear rumours that the club massively screwed up the 2018 preseason and did irreversible damage to our chances, and then after a bunch of players expressed serious concerns to the club to which the club gave them lip service but no action AND THEN come the bye this year players again complained about promises being broken only for Fagan and Champman to take the word of the coaches over the players all while the coaches pleaded for the players to fall into line despite being lied to with promises broken, I believe those rumours because the club doesn't tell me sh*t except that everything is great. So I'm forced to lean on unfounded rumours because I have more of chance of getting an insight as to what is going wrong at the club than anything the club is willing to say publicly.

I'm sick of this club lying and misleading me, I'm sick of the constant cover up of failures, I'm sick of the club only ever acting when they have NO other choice instead of actually listening to the fans who were demanding action months ago. The club has no right to whinge about people claiming they're a boy's club and that they put profits before success, this is typical of flawed leaders looking for distractions from them actually taking accountability. They've already screwed the external review up and part me thinks they did it on purpose so they could control it. As long as this club continues to play their games being secretive and misleading/lying to fans, I won't trust anything they do. That's where I'm at, every action this club makes I'm seriously suspicious of and it's their own damn fault. Note that we didn't hear a thing from Fagan after the weekend until Roo harmed their membership and profit line with his comments, then we get Fagan in an interview straight off the plane... So the fan's anger wasn't enough, it was when the profits and membership were threatened. Yet more proof what the leaders of this club actually care about. Nothing will change, there will be some scapegoats that just so happen to be not anyone of high importance and we will be told that the necessary changes have been made and we will yet again move forward with the wrong people because we have no power to hold this mob to account.

Full voting rights for members in 2028? Yeah, I'll believe it when it happens, but as it stands now, I'm getting ready to write the whole next decade off for the AFC because the stink once again has been covered up with air freshener instead of the club finding the source and getting rid of it.

Despite the length of my rant, I still haven't fully aired all my grievances and anger. This is a club which is 100% uninterested in appeasing its most passionate fans because they have so many fans that will continue to enable them, this is why we are ignored, treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed BS. They don't respect us or they aren't good enough leaders to think respecting their fans is something that they need to bother with.

I hope everyone enjoys the external review, because I have zero trust in this club, I'm convinced the external review is more to distract upset fans instead of actually fixing the problem and as usual the club has given me zero reason to have faith or to trust them. Maybe they'll surprise me and do what is needed, but let's be honest, we've seen what this club is all about and surely most of you have to think in the back of your mind that this review will be used as an excuse to protect those at the club instead of actually holding people to account. There will be a couple of scapegoats and then the club will use this review as currency to justify why certain people kept their job. If the club wants to stop BSing me and start being honest, I'm willing to stop thinking the worst of them, but until that happens, I will always be closer to the truth about what is going on in this club by thinking the least of them instead of having faith in them and it is the club that put itself in that situation, not me. Take a broom to the lot of them, they failed to convince me they've taken proper accountability for Tippettgate and have proven that something does stink at the club and they are more interested in hiding the stink instead of fixing it because it might mean they are the ones who are the source of the stink.

 

[hey shorty]

With respect these are pretty minor points don’t you think?

I mean the context is Fagan, the CEO, sitting on the external review panel.

Isn’t that really the issue ?

If indeed he is on the panel I would wholeheartedly agree.

I mean for one they did say there would be 2 FOOTBALL people on the panel. Now I know eastern state weirdos call rugby football but it's a bit of a stretch

 

[King Elvis]

Tom Rhen reporting that Fagan is on the review panel.

If that is true, it's the sham review that we all feared it would be.

I'll wait for confirmation before I lose my shit.... but it doesn't sound good.

 

[Tex200]

Tom Rhen reporting that Fagan is on the review panel.

If that is true, it's the sham review that we all feared it would be.

I'll wait for confirmation before I lose my s**t.... but it doesn't sound good.

AA reporting it too.

True Crows comedy

 

[FAITH]

I think deep down we all knew it would be a sham.

 

[GreyCrow]

Anyone see Dougie's comments?

Pretty direct. Said football was too structured now, that coaches have forgotten the fundamental skills of the game, that it's about remembering where to stand now, that the fun was gone and he enjoyed the first half of his career much more than the second.

Was talking generally about AFL rather than slinging arrows at AFC individuals but still

Said he wants to get into coaching. Won't be at our club judging by that attitude.

And implement the same coaching structures he just bagged

 

[Elite Crow]

You would have thought Fagan’s involvement would have been mentioned when they announced it?

What I reckon has happened is they’ve heard Roos mention Gale was involved, Blight saying our CEO should be able to do and thought “hoot, this could work in our favour, get Fagan involved”

 

[pjcrows]

I am officially done with this football club.

 

[King Elvis]

You would have thought Fagan’s involvement would have been mentioned when they announced it?

What I reckon has happened is they’ve heard Roos mention Gale was involved, Blight saying our CEO should be able to do and thought “hoot, this could work in our favour, get Fagan involved”

I actually had the same thought mate - or one of the people they were hoping to get, have declined.

Maybe both.

 

[FAITH]

And implement the same coaching structures he just bagged

On your breakfast show next Monday Pembo, you need to expose what a sham this review is.
Feel free to play the breaking at 8 thingy.

 

[Elite Crow]

I’m holding out hope they are reporting it wrong

 

[Scorpus]

Guys. It was never an external review. It was "externally-led" aka "we can't say external because it isn't"

 

[Dixie Normous]

Guys. It was never an external review. It was "externally-led" aka "we can't say external because it isn't"

Never thought for a minute Fagan wouldn't have his tootsies dipping in the external review pool - he's like a pit boss hanging out making sure the dealers are cutting the cards correctly

 

[Legz]

I’m holding out hope they are reporting it wrong

Report says Fagan is to just have some involvement, not be one of the 4 panelists.

 

[dogs105]

AA reporting it too.

True Crows comedy

At least we know what "externally led review" meant now though

 

[SaltPeter]

Well as promised yesterday I’ve emailed Fagan offering to help them improve their communication, which is the area I work in

It would be easy and understandable for them to say they want to wait for the outcome of the review, but I’ve said I’m happy to talk anytime

Let’s see what response I get

I thought you were a lawyer?

 

[hey shorty]

TBH I'd be disappointed if he didn't have some involvement, however that should be limited to employment processes, staff training issues and workplace setups.

 

[SaltPeter]

Subaru likes this very much !

Another blood nut

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Guys. It was never an external review. It was "externally-led" aka "we can't say external because it isn't"

Internally-led external review.

A joke if true..

 

[marty36]

Love how the AFC trolls the Adelaide BF board

We will advise on the review team midweek

Oops sorry end of week

The whole board hangs on everything they say

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[Kane McGoodwin]

TBH I'd be disappointed if he didn't have some involvement, however that should be limited to employment processes, staff training issues and workplace setups.

Fagan should be arranging the terms of reference with the Board... then stay right out of the review.