The war against renewable energy

[nut]

I’ll be getting myself one for home next year I reckon. It’s time.

I’ve got one… only regret I didn’t get bigger.
Average out your night time use and add 50%… I went sungrow 19.2.
Research sigenergy …
And put as much solar on your roof that you can… even south if you have to.
Use Solarquotes.com.au

Oh and join amber…

 

[adogsfan5]

I’ve got one… only regret I didn’t get bigger.
Average out your night time use and add 50%… I went sungrow 19.2.
Research sigenergy …
And put as much solar on your roof that you can… even south if you have to.
Use Solarquotes.com.au

Oh and join amber…

Thnx mate yeah roof is full of solar which is good. Battery is next. I’ll take a look at sigenergy.

 

[Power Raid]

Massive call on your behalf, not sure if you have the expertise to make it.

There are some under development.
If it all goes as planned this one is aimed for 2033.

How passenger electric planes could become a reality within the next decade

Researchers have found a way to make passenger airplanes that operate on 100% electric power.

abcnews.go.com

it would be a far more amazing period to witness if we had a fast train melbourne to sydney. ( further range and faster ).
Something other countries have had for 60 years. Such a train would be faster than a propellor driven aircraft.

France bans short-haul flights to cut carbon emissions

All domestic air routes are stopped where the same journey could be made by train in under 2.5 hours.

www.bbc.com

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Decarbonizing flights with fewer than 500 miles, however, would likely only address about 1% of all emissions originating from air travel, Mukhopadhaya said. The airline industry accounts for just about 3% of total annual global emissions.
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As far as existing aircraft that work .
This one flys for 50 minutes, barely faster than a car (180km/h ) , one passenger, 50 minutes flight.
They may be used for flight schools, so technically "commercial aircraft".

Pipistrel Velis Electro - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This one "appears" to be nearly ready, 9 seater , 500km ish range ( after lots of promises earlier that they backed away from ). Bare in mind though, it can take 5-9 years to get all the approvals needed for commercial operation.

Eviation Alice - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Switching from batteries to hydrogen improved drones in the Ukraine from 4 hours to 16 hours.

This improved kill rates as EW could not be deployed against them as well, as they could acts like a conveyor belt maintaining line of sight of each other.

Pure silicon anode batteries were just as good but crazy expensive at USD$50k per tonne just for the raw materials

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Thnx mate yeah roof is full of solar which is good. Battery is next. I’ll take a look at sigenergy.

You wont lose out by delaying your decision. Prices will only come down and once solar install saturation occurs, then the government will start heavily subsidising battery installs.

 

[adogsfan5]

You wont lose out by delaying your decision. Prices will only come down and once solar install saturation occurs, then the government will start heavily subsidising battery installs.

For sure mate. That was going to be my next query, was government subsiding.. I’m assuming they are doing a portion of the cost already?

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

For sure mate. That was going to be my next query, was government subsiding.. I’m assuming they are doing a portion of the cost already?

All that fed and state subsidies that is sitting there as solar installs are slowing down.

 

[nut]

You wont lose out by delaying your decision. Prices will only come down and once solar install saturation occurs, then the government will start heavily subsidising battery installs.

Up to $4k in NSW already. Plus VPP rebates as well.
Battery packs will continue to fall.. if only they were falling as fast as EV batteries.

 

[nut]

China installing massive amounts of solar and batteries

 

[Rob R]

China installing massive amounts of solar and batteries

More renewable is a terrific thing and should be encouraged by all governments but how much of the CCPs advantage is through the use of slave labour. We need to look at other sources for renewable technology until the CCP enters the modern era for human rights.

BYD construction site in Brazil shut over ‘slavery-like’ conditions

More than 160 Chinese nationals were found living in ‘degrading’ conditions and working excessive hours

www.theguardian.com

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[SaintsSeptember]

More renewable is a terrific thing and should be encouraged by all governments but how much of the CCPs advantage is through the use of slave labour. We need to look at other sources for renewable technology until the CCP enters the modern era for human rights.

BYD construction site in Brazil shut over ‘slavery-like’ conditions

More than 160 Chinese nationals were found living in ‘degrading’ conditions and working excessive hours

www.theguardian.com

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Not a lot actually, but there seem to be some pretty unethical operators there ( Plastic in the baby formula anyone ), who will take advantage over anything that's not enforced.
Most of the slave labour took place in outlying regional places in China, and the government there have been pretty embarrassed by it and will be trying to stamp it out.

https://stage-cv.byd.com/content/dam/commercial-vehicle-cms/report/Human%20Rights%20Policy%20Statement.pdf

However i can't see where BYD have committed to external audits like some organizations do.

Their subby obviously thought that "what happens in Brazil , stays in Brazil ".

When you read this, i wonder if the Chinese company was "busted" due to resentment of brining in Chinese workers, rather than locals.

Brazil’s Combat Against Modern Slavery Has An Enforcement Problem

On February 23, Brazilian authorities rescued 207 victims in conditions akin to modern slavery. The men had been harvesting grapes for a service provider to Brazil’s leading wine producer and two other renowned Brazilian vineyards.

www.forbes.com

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Up to $4k in NSW already. Plus VPP rebates as well.
Battery packs will continue to fall.. if only they were falling as fast as EV batteries.

Like panels, and before that, computers, prices will drop significantly, likely lover the next 4 years. After that, the price will plateau, but you'll only get better system specs over time. I suspect in 4 years, you'll have deals to install 10kw of home battery for $1,500.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Like panels, and before that, computers, prices will drop significantly, likely lover the next 4 years. After that, the price will plateau, but you'll only get better system specs over time. I suspect in 4 years, you'll have deals to install 10kw of home battery for $1,500.

You want more than that if you want to charge your car at night.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

You want more than that if you want to charge your car at night.

Sure, but just like 6.6kw solar for 1,000 is the basement price for solar, you can always go bigger. The same will apply to batteries.

I also expect to see small scale wind turbines (10kW) installed to complement solar panels. Current vertical wind turbines are about $1,500. The only problem is maintenance. They'll solve a lot of that with low maintenance design for domestic use.

 

[nut]

I suspect in 4 years, you'll have deals to install 10kw of home battery for $1,500.

If the price falls that far, millions of people will get batteries and potentially leave the grid.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Sure, but just like 6.6kw solar for 1,000 is the basement price for solar, you can always go bigger. The same will apply to batteries.

I also expect to see small scale wind turbines (10kW) installed to complement solar panels. Current vertical wind turbines are about $1,500. The only problem is maintenance. They'll solve a lot of that with low maintenance design for domestic use.

Wind turbines don't scale as well as solar.
The output is proportional to the wind speed cubed.
So if you have a turbine rated at 5kw in a 40km/h wind, it will only be generating something like 1kw in a 20km/h wind.

 

[nut]

More renewable is a terrific thing and should be encouraged by all governments but how much of the CCPs advantage is through the use of slave labour. We need to look at other sources for renewable technology until the CCP enters the modern era for human rights.

BYD construction site in Brazil shut over ‘slavery-like’ conditions

More than 160 Chinese nationals were found living in ‘degrading’ conditions and working excessive hours

www.theguardian.com

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That’s surely a Brazil construction industry issue?
The Brazilian company JPS are busy brining in overseas workers here for meatworks etc… some living in motels.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Wind turbines don't scale as well as solar.
The output is proportional to the wind speed cubed.
So if you have a turbine rated at 5kw in a 40km/h wind, it will only be generating something like 1kw in a 20km/h wind.

Hence why wind generators are cheaper per Kw than solar panels.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

If the price falls that far, millions of people will get batteries and potentially leave the grid.

Yes, probably. New solar installs will continue to decline as the price of solar installs goes up as installers leave the industry.

 

[nut]

Yes, probably. New solar installs will continue to decline as the price of solar installs goes up as installers leave the industry.

Solar installs will continue as people replace older systems, adding batteries at the same time. There are still thousands of inadequate systems that were installed when feed in tariffs were generous, but are now next to useless.
2 things to look for.
1. When EVs are commonly priced below $30K Aus, with a range that covers most people’s average driving week. 450km +
2. Home Battery packs below $500 KWH. Which will mean the cost per KWh over 4000 cycles will be 12cents.

Solar will always be the cheapest part of an install.. most Batteries will require an Inverter, so to add more panels is a no brainer.

A system cost of about $20k will pay pack in under 4 years in fuel and electricity savings.

All new builds should consider an off grid system.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That’s surely a Brazil construction industry issue?
The Brazilian company JPS are busy brining in overseas workers here for meatworks etc… some living in motels.

It tells you in the article that its a Chinese company supplying their own labour.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Solar installs will continue as people replace older systems, adding batteries at the same time. There are still thousands of inadequate systems that were installed when feed in tariffs were generous, but are now next to useless.
2 things to look for.
1. When EVs are commonly priced below $30K Aus, with a range that covers most people’s average driving week. 450km +
2. Home Battery packs below $500 KWH. Which will mean the cost per KWh over 4000 cycles will be 12cents.

Solar will always be the cheapest part of an install.. most Batteries will require an Inverter, so to add more panels is a no brainer.

A system cost of about $20k will pay pack in under 4 years in fuel and electricity savings.

All new builds should consider an off grid system.

I don't think they'll allow off grid builds. I suspect they'll legislate to ensure all new builds must be connected to the grid to utilise their solar / storage.

I also doubt anyone would go off-grid. Imagine if you had an issue with the solar system or battery. And then had to pay to hire a petrol driven generator for a few weeks waiting for part to come in and for repairs to occur.

 

[nut]

Trucks are coming 670km range … 400km charge in 35minutes. That’s over 1000 Km with a 35 minute break.

 

[nut]

Electric Trucks in action in Germany… game over for diesel.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I don't think they'll allow off grid builds. I suspect they'll legislate to ensure all new builds must be connected to the grid to utilise their solar / storage.

I also doubt anyone would go off-grid. Imagine if you had an issue with the solar system or battery. And then had to pay to hire a petrol driven generator for a few weeks waiting for part to come in and for repairs to occur.

There are already off-grid places.
Yes , most of them probably have Diesel at least for back up.

 

[Rob R]

It tells you in the article that its a Chinese company supplying their own labour.

and the company is the same one accused by human rights watch of using concentration camp labour as part of its manufacturing - mind you the Europeans brands that have cars built in the PRC have the same problem so the only ethical solution is to boycott any brand made in the PRC but then we don't have the renewables we urgently need.


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