Pretty dull GP really. Was hoping Lando got over the top in the end there but didn't think he'd have tyres to overtake either way.
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Wasn't overly exciting - I'm glad the McLaren's are making it more interesting though.
Shame the Mercs aren't around the same level. Having the McLarens/Ferrari's/Mercedes and Perez competing closely would be brilliant.
Shame the Mercs aren't around the same level. Having the McLarens/Ferrari's/Mercedes and Perez competing closely would be brilliant.
Oscar went like a bat out of Hell after his pitstop. He needed to build an undercut buffer over Sainz, to catch & overtake Perez, and then to try and get past LeClerc. From memory, he set the fastest lap (subsequently beaten by Russell) on his first full lap on the Hard tyres.
In contrast, Lando was able to cruise around for a long time, not taking too much energy out of his tyres. It was only when LeClerc started challenging him that he had to take energy out of them, which meant that his tyres were still in good shape for challenging Verstappen in the last few laps.
I'm not critical of Piastri for burning his tyres early, and having to watch LeClerc sail into the sunset as a result. Piastri did what he had to do, given his position in the race. Similarly, Lando did what he had to do. If anything, Lando's failure to go harder, earlier, meant that he was unable to have a real crack at Verstappen at the end. Arguably, Lando's tyre management was worse than Piastri's on this occasion.
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Was anyone else amused by Karun repeatedly stating that there was a 100% probability of having a Safety Car during the race, only for the race to finish without a single incident?
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When he said that I thought it was an odd thing to say - I get there being a high chance but a safety car won't ever be 100% chance haha.
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I know it wasn't the most exciting race, but the B Commentary team didn't add much, and missed a few things (the pitstop with Albon for example, you could clearly see the front right wasn't on clearly, and neither commentator saw it).
I know he's a bit daft at times, but will be good to have Crofty and Martin back next week (I assume)
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Pretty boring race, Perez is embarrassing.
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I missed it, why weren't the A team there?
Getting older. Too many GPs, too much travel, so they've started taking the odd race off.
i thought it was the other guy who said it, but it was mentioned 3 times and def made me cringe
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What was the good fortune this week ?
Qualifying in P3, then getting promoted to P2 due to the team ****ing up and not telling Piastri to stay out of Magnussen's way during qualifying.
It may well have been the other commentator (or both, given that it was stated multiple times). As soon as they said it for the 2nd & 3rd time, you just knew that the race would be incident free.
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Lando still had more pace and better tyre management than Oscar, particularly at the end. If the grid positions were as per Q3, I reckon they would have deployed team orders at some stage or deployed the undercut.
Different tyre management, due to their different positions in the race - see my previous post.
I'd argue that Lando made worse use of his tyres than Piastri did.
Of course they would have deployed team orders. They don't even pretend to preference Piastri... ever!
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I actually think it was more to do with a couple of mistakes he made when behind Max. He went wide a couple of times and lost over half a second both times. If he were clean he is probably within 0.5-0.7 seconds of Max for the last two laps and would have had a chance to have a crack at the end.
There are a few countries lining up for a race now. Problem is that there's only 1 more slot, before they hit the maximum permitted under the Concorde Agreement.
They're also keen to go back to Kyalami, noting that Africa is now the only continent without a GP. Then there's Turkey, and potentially a 2nd Japanese GP.
Adding any further GPs pretty much means killing off some of the traditional European GPs. Spa is first in the firing line, despite being the world's best track. Monaco should be the first one cut, on both commercial grounds (they pay a much lower fee to F1 than any other race), and the fact that the circuit is completely unsuited to modern F1 cars. However, even the hard headed people at Liberty recognise the tradition that would be lost by culling Monaco from the fixture list.
Personally, I think 3x USA races is at least 1 too many - so Miami can be axed with immediate effect.
Driver errors didn't help... but leaving it until too late was a bigger factor.
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another lap and norris would have had verstappen. pretty boring race otherwise.
Oscar getting the 3 place penalty that gifted Lando a front row start
Thought Piastri’s tyre management was the best he’s managed in a race so far, I thought he might suffer after pushing so hard after his stop but was still taking time out of Sainz and to a lesser extent LeClerc late in the race even though his tyres were older and he had to push early instead of building them up.
Without the penalty who knows what he could have done given how much Sainz held him up in his first stint costing him huge time to LeClerc, certainly wound have been on the podium.
Monaco will be on for young and old and hopefully Oscar can plonk it on pole and get his first win at the famous Monaco Grand Prix, has certainly made ground on his tyre management this year and is starting to make ground on Norris.
PS: Team finally got his strategy and Pit Stop right although if he started ahead of Norris where he qualified I’m sure they would have still found a way to screw him over for Norris.
LeClerc drove away from him, as soon as his tyres started to go off.
Sainz was miles off the pace, and never looked like catching Piastri, despite having tyres that were 4 laps younger. His stint after pitting showed just how badly Piastri had been held up, and how hard his own team had ****ed him over with the Magnussen qualifying debacle.
Yes, McLaren got their pit stop strategy right - almost the first time all season that they haven't ****ed Piastri over. However, they didn't go anywhere near fixing the damage they'd already done with the qualifying debacle.
As for Monaco... it's utterly impossible to pass there (unless assisted by blue flags), so there's almost no point in watching Sunday's race. The result will be decided by qualifying on Saturday night.
** OK... we should never underestimate Ferrari's ability to stuff things up, and lose the unlosable GP. LeClerc, I'm looking at you!
Getting to the back of him and getting past are two totally different things especially here.
