F1 The Wash Up - Previous 2024 Race Weekends

[TheEscapeClub]

Apologies to the Richmond supporters in here but watching all the interviews and whatnot in the washup, every one of them talked about Norris at length and repeatedly, it reminds me of a lot of footy threads on here when Richmond supporters participate and try to make the thread about the Tigers rather than the victors, did give me a chuckle.

The only one who gave him his full due I think was Karun. Maybe he has seen the light, we'll see.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Question.

All things being equal, who else on the grid do people in here think could have dealt with that sustained attack for 25+ laps and held their nerve and their position?

I can think of 2 and another 3 maybes.

I think Hamilton and Alonso definitely and then Max, Leclerc and Daniel likely, I'm thinking no-one else.

We see each race mid-pack, slower cars holding up the faster cars lap after lap but I just think that attack by Le Clerc on Piastri was next level. I've been watching F1 for 40 odd years and I can't remember another battle in a race that was that close and lasted that long. I was almost sweating watching it. I found it more gripping than either of the AFL semi-finals.

 

[Vader]

Question.

All things being equal, who else on the grid do people in here think could have dealt with that sustained attack for 25+ laps and held their nerve and their position?

I can think of 2 and another 3 maybes.

I think Hamilton and Alonso definitely and then Max, Le Cler and Daniel likely, I'm thinking no-one else.

We see each race mid-pack, slower cars holding up the faster cars lap after lap but I just think that attack by Le Clerc on Piastri was next level. I've been watching F1 for 40 odd years and I can't remember another battle in a race that was that close and lasted that long. I was almost sweating watching it. I found it more gripping than either of the AFL semi-finals.

I think it's a credit to the F1 engineers, who specified the current regulations, that LeClerc was able to sustain that level of attack for so long. It just wouldn't have been possible with previous generations of technical regulations.

 

[happy_eagle]

Question.

All things being equal, who else on the grid do people in here think could have dealt with that sustained attack for 25+ laps and held their nerve and their position?

I can think of 2 and another 3 maybes.

I think Hamilton and Alonso definitely and then Max, Leclerc and Daniel likely, I'm thinking no-one else.

We see each race mid-pack, slower cars holding up the faster cars lap after lap but I just think that attack by Le Clerc on Piastri was next level. I've been watching F1 for 40 odd years and I can't remember another battle in a race that was that close and lasted that long. I was almost sweating watching it. I found it more gripping than either of the AFL semi-finals.

Red Bull/Renault era Daniel could, and in fact did in Monaco (I know its impossible to overtake there anyway, but he had a significant engine issue from memory).

 

[ibd77]

Question.

All things being equal, who else on the grid do people in here think could have dealt with that sustained attack for 25+ laps and held their nerve and their position?

I can think of 2 and another 3 maybes.

I think Hamilton and Alonso definitely and then Max, Leclerc and Daniel likely, I'm thinking no-one else.

We see each race mid-pack, slower cars holding up the faster cars lap after lap but I just think that attack by Le Clerc on Piastri was next level. I've been watching F1 for 40 odd years and I can't remember another battle in a race that was that close and lasted that long. I was almost sweating watching it. I found it more gripping than either of the AFL semi-finals.

TBH he was sort of lucky not to get a warning for weaving after the pass but glad he found his groove and managed that tiny gap. The kid has ice in his veins.

How good was the Ferrari to hang on for so long in the dirty air?

 

[gaskin]

TBH he was sort of lucky not to get a warning for weaving after the pass but glad he found his groove and managed that tiny gap. The kid has ice in his veins.

How good was the Ferrari to hang on for so long in the dirty air?

It wasn't weaving. He moves left to cut off the inside and then moved right as all drivers have to do to make that corner. There is a reason why nobody (even the massive LeClerc homers) have said anything about it being weaving.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

It wasn't weaving. He moves left to cut off the inside and then moved right as all drivers have to do to make that corner. There is a reason why nobody (even the massive LeClerc homers) have said anything about it being weaving.

Exactly. If you watch Jolyon Palmers analysis of Oscar’s pass & subsequent defending, he shows how Oscar moved early so there was a clear gap between them which shut down Leclercs chance to go down the inside in the next corner.

 

[BomberFan355]

Question.

All things being equal, who else on the grid do people in here think could have dealt with that sustained attack for 25+ laps and held their nerve and their position?

I can think of 2 and another 3 maybes.

I think Hamilton and Alonso definitely and then Max, Leclerc and Daniel likely, I'm thinking no-one else.

We see each race mid-pack, slower cars holding up the faster cars lap after lap but I just think that attack by Le Clerc on Piastri was next level. I've been watching F1 for 40 odd years and I can't remember another battle in a race that was that close and lasted that long. I was almost sweating watching it. I found it more gripping than either of the AFL semi-finals.

Russell till the last corner.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

As of Rd 17	Driver	Team	Points
1	Max Verstappen	Oracle Red Bull Racing	313
2	Lando Norris	McLaren Formula 1 Team	254
3	Charles Leclerc	Scuderia Ferrari HP	235
4	Oscar Piastri	McLaren Formula 1 Team	222
5	Carlos Sainz Jr	Scuderia Ferrari HP	184
6	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team	166
7	George Russell	Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team	143
8	Sergio Pérez	Oracle Red Bull Racing	143
9	Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team	58
10	Lance Stroll	Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team	24
11	Nico Hülkenberg	Moneygram Haas F1 Team	22
12	Yuki Tsunoda	Visa Cash App RB F1 Team	22
13	Alexander Albon	Williams Racing	12
14	Daniel Ricciardo	Visa Cash App RB F1 Team	12
15	Pierre Gasly	Alpine F1 Team	8
16	Oliver Bearman	Scuderia Ferrari HP / Haas	7
17	Kevin Magnussen	Moneygram Haas F1 Team	6
18	Esteban Ocon	Alpine F1 Team	5
19	Franco Colapinto	Williams Racing	4
20	Zhou Guanyu	Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber	0
21	Valtteri Bottas	Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber	0
22	Logan Sargeant	Williams Racing	0

 

[happy_eagle]

Colapinto has 4 points, Ricciardo has 12, Gasly 8, Bearman 7

 

[Cromulant]

Colapinto has 4 points, Ricciardo has 12, Gasly 8, Bearman 7

I mean he's got a third of the points Albono has in 2 races.

That car could be a surprise packet next year

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Colapinto has 4 points, Ricciardo has 12, Gasly 8, Bearman 7

Not anymore!

 

[happy_eagle]

Let the wild unnecessary speculation begin

 

[Barrybran]

Let the wild unnecessary speculation begin

"Daniel, don't tell them Max is leaving."

 

[Cromulant]

I mean ir looks like he's done sadly.

He's done reasonably well in races against Yuki the last 6 rounds or so, but it's not enough.

 

[Jatz]

Him being the 5th wheel is the right call. Which if they've decided to go that way, I don't know why you'd delay it any further, give Liam as much time behind the wheel as you can.

 

[Cromulant]

Him being the 5th wheel is the right call. Which if they've decided to go that way, I don't know why you'd delay it any further, give Liam as much time behind the wheel as you can.

Sounds like Iwasa is the reserve driver next year too.

Dan will drive NASCAR

 

[Guardian Hawk]

I mean ir looks like he's done sadly.

He's done reasonably well in races against Yuki the last 6 rounds or so, but it's not enough.

I know I'm a Dan fan, but I reckon he is a little unlucky this time (if the rumours are true)...

This season, in race finishes against his teammate, it is 9-8 to Ricciardo. If you include sprints, Ricciardo leads Tsunoda 11-9.

Since they changed his chassis after Ricciardo suggested something wasn't right, Ricciardo has beaten Tsunoda 7-2 on race weekends (that's the last 9 races).

I suppose the unlucky part is that has timed itself with the VCARB being overtaken by basically all the other teams (bar Sauber) so even though he is driving better and finishing higher, there are no points on offer for it to count in the championship. Had he gone past Tsunoda in the championship (as his race results would suggest), it would make the decision to move him on significantly harder.

 

[skam85]

Sounds like Iwasa is the reserve driver next year too.

Dan will drive NASCAR

Not Hadjar?

 

[Cromulant]

Not Hadjar?

It was a Marko line, but its expected to be Iwasa

 

[Festerz]

I mean ir looks like he's done sadly.

He's done reasonably well in races against Yuki the last 6 rounds or so, but it's not enough.

 

[Duck Farmer]

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lol - equally applicable

 

[Cromulant]

If Norris were to DNF this weekend and Oscar wins...... there would have to be a very tricky conversation had in the Mclaren Motorhome.

 

[Gak Attack]

If Norris were to DNF this weekend and Oscar wins...... there would have to be a very tricky conversation had in the Mclaren Motorhome.

Norris and Max taking each other out and not scoring points and Oscar winning would sure make things interesting.

 

[happy_eagle]

If Norris were to DNF this weekend and Oscar wins...... there would have to be a very tricky conversation had in the Mclaren Motorhome.

If Lando doesn't make up points to Max every single race weekend, the championship battle is over.

Tbh though I think the championship battle is already over, particularly if RB have figured out some of their car gremlins like they suspect they have.