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as long as you don't inconvenience everyone else by getting the single overviewer of the self-serve area to scan your trolley for you (i've seen it happen), then completely agree
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as long as you don't inconvenience everyone else by getting the single overviewer of the self-serve area to scan your trolley for you (i've seen it happen), then completely agree
Why don't you use BPay? All my bills are emailed to my bank, I just log into my bank account & there are my bills, it takes less than 5 minutes to pay them & you only need one password.
- Sep 22, 2011
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Doesn’t bpay with a credit card count as a cash advance, not a purchase?
Not sure, i use my debit card for my bills.
- Sep 22, 2011
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Well I’m pretty sure it does. And my cash account offsets my mortgage, so I use my credit card for everything.
What is the charge? It wouldn't be more than a couple of dollars, surely better than having to log into heaps of different sites.
From ANZ:
"Bill payments from your credit card can be processed as either a purchase or a cash advance, depending on how the biller is set up with the BPAY®billing service. If the biller chooses to accept credit cards, the payment is processed as a purchase. If the biller chooses not to accept credit card payments, ANZ may allow you to make a payment from your credit card but it will be treated as a cash advance and you will be charged a cash advance fee."
Depends on your biller. I always try this to avoid the stupid 'credit card processing fees' that some places charge but not all accept it (my bank actually won't process it as a cash advance, they just say 'this payer does not support BPay Via Credit Card'.
- Sep 22, 2011
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It’s not just a fee, though that sucks. There’s no interest free period on cash advances, so I’m paying interest on it from day dot. And the interest rate is higher than purchases as well.
Nice info MarcusP2 , maybe I’ll check with my bank. I have asked in the past and they just said any transfer or bpay from a credit account is treated as a cash advance. Might be time for a proper detailed answer.
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Most aren't treated as a cash advance. Check your bill in the BPAY section and. If it says you can pay by credit card, it will go on your credit card, but NOT as a cash advance.
All my utility bills go on my credit card, and all through BPay. The only one that doesn't is Telstra. I pay that using BPay but from my savings account.
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People who get all uppity about punctuality. So what that i was half an hour late today, i'll stay back half an hour or take a short lunch. If they really wanna know where $$$ are being lost I would've thought more concerning was the middle aged bird who sets near me that needs to work 10+ hours every day because she's the most inefficient user of a computer i've just about ever seen.
Or the fact that the workload they give me I could have done in about 4-5 hours each day (absolute maximum), but instead it gets stretched over 7.5 hours because workplaces just adapt a one size fits all policy.
To be honest, the fact people get so bogged down in minor irrelevant bullshit is what keeps humanity back. There is so much potential in this world, so much to explore, so much knowledge to take in, but we got lost in the dotted i's, crossed t's, is this reconciliation exact to the cent.
Or the fact that the workload they give me I could have done in about 4-5 hours each day (absolute maximum), but instead it gets stretched over 7.5 hours because workplaces just adapt a one size fits all policy.
To be honest, the fact people get so bogged down in minor irrelevant bullshit is what keeps humanity back. There is so much potential in this world, so much to explore, so much knowledge to take in, but we got lost in the dotted i's, crossed t's, is this reconciliation exact to the cent.
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Black Thunder - your not really talking about punctuality though your talking more about time management in the workplace. Personally I get 'uppity' about punctuality when it comes to attending appointments, dinner engagements etc. but not so much about my work hours unless it impacts on others around me. I have a bigger issue with those who put on their timesheets - start time 8.50 - finish time 5.06 and claim it as toil but their lunch hour doesn't reflect that they in fact took 44 minutes for lunch rather than the allocated 30
It's all about swings and roundabouts for me and as long as it's not being abused I don't have a problem with start and finish times.
It's all about swings and roundabouts for me and as long as it's not being abused I don't have a problem with start and finish times.
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Black Thunder - your not really talking about punctuality though your talking more about time management in the workplace. Personally I get 'uppity' about punctuality when it comes to attending appointments, dinner engagements etc. but not so much about my work hours unless it impacts on others around me. I have a bigger issue with those who put on their timesheets - start time 8.50 - finish time 5.06 and claim it as toil but their lunch hour doesn't reflect that they in fact took 44 minutes for lunch rather than the allocated 30
It's all about swings and roundabouts for me and as long as it's not being abused I don't have a problem with start and finish times.
So is it an hour? Or 30 mins?
Punctuality is the politeness of princes.
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speaking of punctuality, the following social phenomena vexes me (hence my avatar).
"fashionably late". for some reason people dont like to be the first to arrive.
so a party, get together if you will, is organised. turn up at 7pm. first person/group arrives at 7.30. guests arrive after 8pm.
first person/group realises they're the first to come. is 7.30 therefore now considered "early"?
"fashionably late". for some reason people dont like to be the first to arrive.
so a party, get together if you will, is organised. turn up at 7pm. first person/group arrives at 7.30. guests arrive after 8pm.
first person/group realises they're the first to come. is 7.30 therefore now considered "early"?
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Agreed. punctuality is much more important when it comes to appointments, sporting events, movies etc,...
But when it comes to work, i get paid for 7.5 hours a day with an hour lunch break (i'd be happier to take a 30 min lunch break and start/finish 30 mins earlier). I seriously fail to see whether it matters if i do that from 8.30-5 (my "allotted" hours), 10-6.30, or 7-3.30... I can see the concern if people are taking the piss and wanting to do hours like 2pm to 10.30pm or something like that.
Paying people by the hour is old hat in my books anyway. Pay people for results and getting shit done. I've been on this contract for 12 weeks now to develop this program and there is 1 week to go and i'm down to about 2-3 hours of work a day on it, and the work being done is mostly unnecessary finishing touches. I could've had this job finished 4 weeks ago for these guys but what good is that to me? I just lose myself 4 weeks worth of pay. If I was still going to get paid the same amount of $$, this would be well done my now and i'd be on my work to my next contract (or the pub? either one is good)
Business hours are business hours for a reason. If everybody works the same hours it improves communication (particularly for managers) and generally makes it easier for everyone to get in touch with each other.
It's already hard enough to get in touch with people with different demands on their time - if everybody is working different arrangements of Flex it makes things even more difficult. I got into the office last Monday morning at 8:30 and needed to follow up with my boss's PA about something. But Monday mornings she drops her kids at school and doesn't get in until 9:30. I had to wait around for her to show up before I could progress that particular item (which really should have been top of my agenda). Flexible working hours are sometimes a necessary but it's also usually an inconvenience.
The only place I've ever worked with genuine FlexTime was a pain in the arse. People would be arriving all morning between 7 and 11am, and then they'd start leaving again at 3pm. Just keeping track of who would be available when was hard enough, let alone the fact that you could never find a time for a meeting that suited everyone.
It's already hard enough to get in touch with people with different demands on their time - if everybody is working different arrangements of Flex it makes things even more difficult. I got into the office last Monday morning at 8:30 and needed to follow up with my boss's PA about something. But Monday mornings she drops her kids at school and doesn't get in until 9:30. I had to wait around for her to show up before I could progress that particular item (which really should have been top of my agenda). Flexible working hours are sometimes a necessary but it's also usually an inconvenience.
The only place I've ever worked with genuine FlexTime was a pain in the arse. People would be arriving all morning between 7 and 11am, and then they'd start leaving again at 3pm. Just keeping track of who would be available when was hard enough, let alone the fact that you could never find a time for a meeting that suited everyone.
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Your situation Caesar also applies for those working part-time - spend half our lives trying to catch them at the right time. It can be frustrating I agree but I do find that you have a happier work place if time restraints aren't rigid. I will say though that I was only talking 10-20minutes difference here or there not staggered hours.
My workplace is 8.30 - 8.30 so we do have staff starting at different times which probably makes it easier for me to accept, but it is rostered and it is fixed
My workplace is 8.30 - 8.30 so we do have staff starting at different times which probably makes it easier for me to accept, but it is rostered and it is fixed
There's constraints and there's constraints. My boss will happily let me come in an hour or so late if I have a doctor's appointment or something, but if I just rocked up half an hour late with no warning (like BlackThunder's example) then I'd expect to be read the riot act.
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its purely a management thing. it makes it a lot easier for your boss to keep track of everyone - even if you are a good worker who would put in the correct hours there are a hell of a lot of employees that wouldnt. the other thing is that fellow employees can be jealous w***ers who can and will complain when they think anyone is getting a better deal than them - this saves the boss those headaches and having to deal with this shit too
been down this road before
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Our office hours are officially 8.30 to 5pm, and we have people here anywhere from 5am to 7pm each day.
Hours are fairly flexible, provided you don't take the piss.
What hours you do really depends on what your job entails and how much interaction with others you need. If you're constantly chasing people that don't get in until late morning or are gone by 3pm it's a pain in the arse, but if your job is along the lines of 'here, go away and do this and check back to me in a week' then I don't see any benefit in working official business hours compared to starting earlier/later.
Hours are fairly flexible, provided you don't take the piss.
What hours you do really depends on what your job entails and how much interaction with others you need. If you're constantly chasing people that don't get in until late morning or are gone by 3pm it's a pain in the arse, but if your job is along the lines of 'here, go away and do this and check back to me in a week' then I don't see any benefit in working official business hours compared to starting earlier/later.
Agree, I used to have people getting stuck into me for leaving at 5 (young family)
despite the fact that I started at 7.30 and they started at 8.30/9 they failed to see why I should be leaving at 5.
I also rarely took a lunch break and when I did it was generally 1/2hr.
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Having in general a crap day at work.
And to top it all off one of my toenails was razor sharp, so it cut the toe next to it, so now I have a really nice bloodstain on the inside of my new leather shoes.
**** the gym tonight, going straight home with some takeaway, then a cold shower.
And to top it all off one of my toenails was razor sharp, so it cut the toe next to it, so now I have a really nice bloodstain on the inside of my new leather shoes.
**** the gym tonight, going straight home with some takeaway, then a cold shower.
- Sep 22, 2011
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Agree. Working with 3 hour time differences across the country is bad enough, let alone having to deal with people in your own timezone!
All depends on your job though, some people don’t have or need much interaction with others.
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