Southerntakeover
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Not inspiring you may be the most vacuous criticism ive seen yet.
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Thommo for Captain - VB give it away mate
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Not inspiring you may be the most vacuous criticism ive seen yet.
I think VB is feeling the pressures of being Captain a bit and is a tad unsure of himself on the field. I suppose this is natural as he is a young first year Captain in a side that is going very well, so i will give him time to get better.
At the moment, if a neutral observer watched an AFC game they wouldn't know that VB was captain, or even part of the leadership group if not previously told so. I don't think you could say that about any other captain.
A captain does not have to be the best player, but he needs to be an exceptional reader of play. He does need to lead by example by executing and making the right decision when under pressure and being relied on to not make mistakes.
This is a tough situation for VB but I think he will improve and I hope he develops into a great captain.
The one thing I want from VB at the moment is to show some real passion/aggression when we are down.
At the moment, if a neutral observer watched an AFC game they wouldn't know that VB was captain, or even part of the leadership group if not previously told so. I don't think you could say that about any other captain.
A captain does not have to be the best player, but he needs to be an exceptional reader of play. He does need to lead by example by executing and making the right decision when under pressure and being relied on to not make mistakes.
This is a tough situation for VB but I think he will improve and I hope he develops into a great captain.
The one thing I want from VB at the moment is to show some real passion/aggression when we are down.
We need a natural hard nut to lead us out of the darkness - Brent Reilly, your time is now.
We need a natural hard nut to lead us out of the darkness - Brent Reilly, your time is now.[/
He is third in contested possies (behind Thommo and Danger) and second in tackles (behind Thommo). Also third in total possies (behind Thommo and VB). So yes a very good call
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Everytime the club's in a crisis, I ask myself "What would Roo have done?"
More often than not VB comes up short.
Call this a vacuous criticism if you like. I like VB but he's far from an inspirational leader. Still, he's been selected and deserves a lot more than four games to prove himself.
More often than not VB comes up short.
Call this a vacuous criticism if you like. I like VB but he's far from an inspirational leader. Still, he's been selected and deserves a lot more than four games to prove himself.
jenny61_99
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You can't compare oranges with apples. Roo was made coach at age 25. He'd played 194 games - and played in two premiership teams. VB is a year younger and has played only 116 games. He hasn't had the luxury of playing through two premiership years.
Besides which they are nothing alike. So why expect the same out of VB. He is our Captain, and he will find his feet given time. Can't stand the criticism after only 4 frickin games!
Besides which they are nothing alike. So why expect the same out of VB. He is our Captain, and he will find his feet given time. Can't stand the criticism after only 4 frickin games!
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Ricciuto was an All Australian at 18/19, a spritiual leader at 21, and the club's best player at 22. At 24, he was named the club's best player of the decade.
You're right about apples and oranges, but it has nothing to do with age or premierships. One is simply far superior to the other.
jenny61_99
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Which is why you can't ****ing compare them!
Name me one other player that fits that description. VB is our current captain. He has been so for a grand total of 4 games. It is absolutely ridiculous to be expecting Roo like behaviour OR decisions. Give him time to develop FFS.
Southerntakeover
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Ricciuto is possibly the greatest South Australian footballer of all time. If you're going to use him as the pass/fail measure then you're going to be very very disappointed.
So was Mark Ricciuto...
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Which is why you can't ****ing compare them!
What I'm saying is that Ricciuto (much like Dangefield) displayed leadership qualities, and outstanding performance, almost from day 1. So don't use age as an excuse. VB just isn't is as good, and never will be.
And SouthernTakeover, I agree. It's difficult though, he has big shoes to fill. As did Goodwin.
jenny61_99
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VB is DIFFERENT. Accept it and move on. Clearly VB has demonstrated leadership to the people that matter. It may not be as overt and obvious to you as Roo was, but it's there none-the-less. Just give him some time. Dangerfield isn't ready yet. But he will be. Until then we need to give VB time to develop. Not ridicule him every waking moment.
VB is not Ricciuto (but then, who is?), nor is he Ricciuto-Lite. He's not trying to be Ricciuto, that's just not who he is. His leadership style is not the same as Ricciuto's leadership style.
Comparing apples with oranges doesn't allow you to conclude that apples suck.
Comparing apples with oranges doesn't allow you to conclude that apples suck.
jarmanagic
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In terms of on field leadership Im not seeing much from VB. Rutten and Thommo miles ahead.
What Im disappointed in is VBs lack of physicality on the field this year. I thought he would be more in and under. He is playing as an outside player really and given he is neither exceptional in terms of speed or kicking he is just ok as an outside player
There must be a lot more to captaincy than on field stuff these days because he neither inspires nor is in our best 10 players. There may be some improvement yet I guess.
What Im disappointed in is VBs lack of physicality on the field this year. I thought he would be more in and under. He is playing as an outside player really and given he is neither exceptional in terms of speed or kicking he is just ok as an outside player
There must be a lot more to captaincy than on field stuff these days because he neither inspires nor is in our best 10 players. There may be some improvement yet I guess.
If the players could have stepped in a time machine and have seen the 2011 season to the present when voting last year it would might have been a different outcome. Thompson is up there with the best this year. Absolute gun, career best form, hard as f*** - Captain material.
Southerntakeover
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The players know Thompson well enough. They didnt want him as captain. Im afraid some on this board are just going to have to let go.
Caramelas13
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i think we got the wrong van berlo as captain
Hahaha - i'm thinking the same as i'm watching the Freo v Bullies game!!!
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i think we got the wrong van berlo as captain
Club could have listened to Nathan and drafted him when they had the chance, but no
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Of course they are - but that doesn't make comparing them as though they were the same sort of player any more sensible.
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Anyone know if there's any truth to the rumour that players were upset with his lack of vocal ability during the showdown meltdown?
Southerntakeover
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Given that you appear to have just made the rumour up, id go with no.
I haven't heard this rumour. Are you referring to the comments by Wright that the group looked flat at half time?
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