Time to re-think the secondary markets

[Bjo187]

West of Sydney metro area, that's correct. The 13 council areas that make up what is considered GWS, then no.

Where are you getting that info from? Blacktown I thought had the highest indigenous population.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Where are you getting that info from? Blacktown I thought had the highest indigenous population.

It might be the highest of an individual council area, but look Australia wide.

Census of Population and Housing - Counts of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians, 2021

2021, 2016 and 2011 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Census counts and age distributions for selected geographies and national counts to 1971.

www.abs.gov.au

 

[Walshawk]

Where are you getting that info from? Blacktown I thought had the highest indigenous population.

An indigenous draftee (or any other draftee) is unlikely to ever go anywhere near Blacktown.

 

[Bjo187]

An indigenous draftee (or any other draftee) is unlikely to ever go anywhere near Blacktown.

To the giants? Their academy is in Blacktown and their vfl side play there regularly.

 

[Sphynx]

Until the GC become a powerhouse they are going to keep the Darwin zone. Just because they got 3 first rounders and a 2nd rounder out of their GC zone last draft dosen't mean they have solved their problems.

Everyone wants less travel, but the GC are happy with travelling to Darwin, because everyone else they play there has to do more travelling than them.

North have failed everywhere else they have gone to as a 2nd market, so why take it off GC and give it to them?

Well this aged well inside of a few hours.

North to get NT and Darwin as new NGA zone with imminent loss of Tasmanian zone.

 

[fargothegreat]

Well this aged well inside of a few hours.

North to get NT and Darwin as new NGA zone with imminent loss of Tasmanian zone.

This makes a lot of sense. NT can't support their own team, so why not have North play games up there and make it their second home? 'North' can have a different meaning to Territorians while allowing the club to maintain a presence at Arden St.

 

[Walshawk]

To the giants? Their academy is in Blacktown and their vfl side play there regularly.

I was replying to a post saying that indigenous players would be more comfortable at GWS due to the large indigenous populations out that way. I was stating that AFL draftees on big dollars are unlikely to be socialising anywhere near Blacktown which is very low socio economic area.

 

[Walshawk]

Well this aged well inside of a few hours.

North to get NT and Darwin as new NGA zone with imminent loss of Tasmanian zone.

Looks like I was on the money here.

I reckon North will take over Melbourne’s Alice Springs match and GC’s two (plus maybe one more) in Darwin from 2026. With works being done at Launceston in 2026/27, Hawks to split their four games between York Park and Bellrieve in 26/27.
Tas govt wants Nth out and Hawks to stay until the Devils are ready.

The AFL own GC they will do what the AFL wants. All games on GC will be good for them as they will be a very strong team the second half of this decade.

This will be good for all three clubs. Maybe the Hawks will hang around in Tas hosting the Devils in Launceston and another home game in Hobart from 2028. Much better than Cairns.

 

[Cunnington Cartel]

Looks like I was on the money here.

I reckon North will take over Melbourne’s Alice Springs match and GC’s two (plus maybe one more) in Darwin from 2026. With works being done at Launceston in 2026/27, Hawks to split their four games between York Park and Bellrieve in 26/27.
Tas govt wants Nth out and Hawks to stay until the Devils are ready.

The AFL own GC they will do what the AFL wants. All games on GC will be good for them as they will be a very strong team the second half of this decade.

This will be good for all three clubs. Maybe the Hawks will hang around in Tas hosting the Devils in Launceston and another home game in Hobart from 2028. Much better than Cairns.

I believe the overwhelming majority of Tasmanians will not want the Hawks ‘hanging around’ anywhere near Tas from 2028 onwards. The gravy train has nearly reached its last stop.

I’ll concede that the Hawks have been better for Tassie than North, although they’ll lose all grace from the locals if they try and stay on for too long, particularly if they expect the financial support to continue.

The narrative has changed significantly over the last few years and most footy fans I know want both interstate clubs out. Now it’s time to invest in our own footy club and the community pathways that will underpin it.

 

[Teen Wolf]

A report about "one of several scenarios" considered by the AFL regarding NGAs... And somehow that means "the AFL has decided who will sell games 3 years from now, and to where"? Preposterous leaps being made ITT.

A more reasonable assertion is the North Melbourne Football Club (unlike current offenders Essendon, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne and Sydney) will not broker a "secondary market" home game deal for their senior men's team without a proportionate deal for their senior women's team, and vice-versa.

Meanwhile the AFL and NT government are in talks about Darwin becoming the host of AFLW's own Gather Round, which suggests (but by no means guarantees) a different direction.

 

[Coolangatta]

I believe the overwhelming majority of Tasmanians will not want the Hawks ‘hanging around’ anywhere near Tas from 2028 onwards. The gravy train has nearly reached its last stop.

I’ll concede that the Hawks have been better for Tassie than North, although they’ll lose all grace from the locals if they try and stay on for too long, particularly if they expect the financial support to continue.

The narrative has changed significantly over the last few years and most footy fans I know want both interstate clubs out. Now it’s time to invest in our own footy club and the community pathways that will underpin it.

Yeah it’d be like the Giants trying to play 3 games a year in Canberra after Canberra get their own team. Who wants that shit? Go sell games to markets that can’t support their own team but want live footy.

 

[Cunnington Cartel]

Yeah it’d be like the Giants trying to play 3 games a year in Canberra after Canberra get their own team. Who wants that shit? Go sell games to markets that can’t support their own team but want live footy.

Exactly. Our time, energy and cash should be allocated towards making our own footy landscape stronger, instead of continuing to prioritise the interests of a wealthy, self-serving club from another state.

The argument about getting more content in Tassie venues doesn’t fly with me either. With 19 clubs, we’ll need 24 rounds anyway, so Tassie would be much better off allocating funds to try and secure a second gather round later in the season. That would get more + better content in our stadiums as well as a greater return on investment than flogging a dead horse with Hawks games.

 

[fargothegreat]

I believe the overwhelming majority of Tasmanians will not want the Hawks ‘hanging around’ anywhere near Tas from 2028 onwards. The gravy train has nearly reached its last stop.

I’ll concede that the Hawks have been better for Tassie than North, although they’ll lose all grace from the locals if they try and stay on for too long, particularly if they expect the financial support to continue.

The narrative has changed significantly over the last few years and most footy fans I know want both interstate clubs out. Now it’s time to invest in our own footy club and the community pathways that will underpin it.

I say let the Hawks play an extra home in Tassie provided its against Tassie. Helps to balance out the fixture, as all the other teams get at least 12 games in their home state.