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Which AFC deserter were/are you most salty towards?

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fairfooty said:
You should. And get Peter J to join you. And don't forget to wear your Crows scarves... :cool:
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and why not sing the Crows song too like those idiots did at the airport before the final this year!

Like the editor said in this mornings Advertiser, time to move on folks. Only worth revisiting when Tippett finally plays against us or R12 against Port next year. There'will be more Crows colours in the crowd than Port colours!
 

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cmndstab said:
I'm not about to start carding Sydney posters simply for supporting Sydney. bobbobbert was skirting the line without stepping over it. We tolerated it for a while, then asked him to move on.

Other posters have found themselves with infractions for stepping over the line.

There hasn't been a "lenient approach". The influx of Sydney posters has come because they can now laugh about having picked up Kurt Tippett for a PSD pick. Seems a bit wanky but as long as they're not assholes about it they're within their rights to post.
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He didn't overstep the mark? Normally respect what youve got to say but how are the following comments about supporting Sydney and not having a go at Adelaide posters and our club?

"ignorant sook" when he was clearly wrong
"dump of a club"
"laughing stock"
"cheats"

Is this Bay 13 or the Adelaide Board where you are supposed to respect it's posters and the club? Thought our rules clearly state no personal abuse or disrespect.
 
Excellent article on the AFL website

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2012-12-12/bad-taste-to-linger

Many will be left grappling with a simple question: how can a player who entered into an 'illegal' side agreement designed to ensure a smooth passage to his club of choice ultimately get to that club?
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South Australians would have copped this more readily if Tippett had gone back home to Queensland, via the Brisbane Lions or Gold Coast - the outcome the side agreement was designed to achieve.

But many will now see him as a money-hungry mercenary rather than a homesick 25-year-old, despite Tippett's protestations that he has family in Sydney too.

You suspect there will be no shortage of neutral supporters who feel the same way.
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There has been growing angst among clubs outside Sydney that the Swans and Giants get a cost-of-living allowance that allows them to spend almost $900,000 on top of the standard salary cap. To the critics, Tippett becomes the personification of how advantageous that concession is.

Remember, we're talking about the reigning premiers. That they have almost $1 million extra to spend in their salary cap is a small part of the Tippett story but a club coming off a premiership is expected to battle to keep its list together, not out-bid all-comers for one of the competition's elite big men.
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Huntercrow said:
The fact he will be paid the most when he is able to provide the least could stretch his team mates patience by the end of the year.

I dont think they will be willing to give him too much slack once he is back in the league side. He would be expected to provide value from day one. Otherwise there may be some very unhappy campers if a premiership player must make way for his Highness to only see him play like he did against the Swans in our first final.

Tippet must come out firing from round 12 or find himself becoming the Sydney Medias next Folau. They would love the opportunity to bag him and the Swans -with good reason- if he does not live up to expectations.

He'll find the Sydney media are a step up from what he is used to and may soon long for the good old days in Adelaide with its "fishbowl environment".
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Even noting your location, I think you are strongly over estimating the Sydney media's interest in AFL, let alone that of Sydneysiders. I thought Melbournians were bananas about AFL but after spending some short stints in Adelaide I was quite amazed (perhaps even an understatement) at how it dominates the media there. I'd be surprised if in a years time anyone here (other than the 30,000 or odd regular game attendees) would even know who Kurt Tippett is, no matter how good or bad he ends up playing. The only Swan anyone in the general public here can readily recall would be Adam Goodes - people in Adelaide probably know more Swans players than that.
 
Huntercrow said:
The fact he will be paid the most when he is able to provide the least could stretch his team mates patience by the end of the year.

I dont think they will be willing to give him too much slack once he is back in the league side. He would be expected to provide value from day one. Otherwise there may be some very unhappy campers if a premiership player must make way for his Highness to only see him play like he did against the Swans in our first final.

Tippet must come out firing from round 12 or find himself becoming the Sydney Medias next Folau. They would love the opportunity to bag him and the Swans -with good reason- if he does not live up to expectations.

He'll find the Sydney media are a step up from what he is used to and may soon long for the good old days in Adelaide with its "fishbowl environment".
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Your response is about what Tippett needs to do and I agree with it. My comment is about three things:
  • The Swans ability to pay over the top because they have an extra $900K that they shouldn't have.
  • The Swans actions that are in direct conflict with the AFL punishment.
  • The fact that Tippett is not really getting punished. How can missing games and still get FULL pay be considered punishment.
Why the AFL has not intervened to stop Tippett avoiding his punishment is beyound me. Why the AFL has not cited the Swans about helping Tippett avoid his punishment. If Tippett was to get $800K for his first year thats OK. Given he cam only play half the season Tippett should have been required to nominate his Salary as only $400K for 2013.

Many have mentioned that the AFL will bend over backwards to help Sydney...or help the clubs in NSW to break into that market. But it should not be at the detriment to the other clubs.

We say we want the AFC board to come out and be open and honest. We wont get it. We also want the AFL to come out and be open and honest and treat all the clubs fairly. We wont get it.
 
BrissyCrow said:
Your response is about what Tippett needs to do and I agree with it. My comment is about three things:
  • The Swans ability to pay over the top because they have an extra $900K that they shouldn't have.
  • The Swans actions that are in direct conflict with the AFL punishment.
  • The fact that Tippett is not really getting punished. How can missing games and still get FULL pay be considered punishment.
Why the AFL has not intervened to stop Tippett avoiding his punishment is beyound me. Why the AFL has not cited the Swans about helping Tippett avoid his punishment. If Tippett was to get $800K for his first year thats OK. Given he cam only play half the season Tippett should have been required to nominate his Salary as only $400K for 2013.


Many have mentioned that the AFL will bend over backwards to help Sydney...or help the clubs in NSW to break into that market. But it should not be at the detriment to the other clubs.

We say we want the AFC board to come out and be open and honest. We wont get it. We also want the AFL to come out and be open and honest and treat all the clubs fairly. We wont get it.
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whinge whinge whinge... what should/could of been... we won the premiership and you lost your dignity... you're an absolute joke...
 
We all need to realise that its very cool to be a Swans supporter at the moment. They just won the premiership and just inherited our highest paid player for nothing. Its not unreasonable to expect a sudden blip in support for the Swans. League fans and Bum Sniffers are clearly flocking to AFL and have become overnight experts.

Adelaide supporters just need to be patient. Sydney supporters will disappear just as quickly as they emerged, Tippett will continue to be a very erratic footballer, the remainder of Sydney fans will begin to hate him as they realise he is not worth the money, Sydney players will be targeted by other clubs because they are not earning what they could elsewhere. The frustrating bit is, that Adelaide will move on, we are an enormous chance of a premiership in the next few years and the same flogs we have had to endure for the last 2 months will be nowhere to be seen.
 

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Wood_Duck said:
We all need to realise that its very cool to be a Swans supporter at the moment. They just won the premiership and just inherited our highest paid player for nothing. Its not unreasonable to expect a sudden blip in support for the Swans. League fans and Bum Sniffers are clearly flocking to AFL and have become overnight experts.

Adelaide supporters just need to be patient. Sydney supporters will disappear just as quickly as they emerged, Tippett will continue to be a very erratic footballer, the remainder of Sydney fans will begin to hate him as they realise he is not worth the money, Sydney players will be targeted by other clubs because they are not earning what they could elsewhere. The frustrating bit is, that Adelaide will move on, we are an enormous chance of a premiership in the next few years and the same flogs we have had to endure for the last 2 months will be nowhere to be seen.
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Not sure if I agree with the rest of your post above, but the bolded bit is certainly true.
 
BrissyCrow said:
I read this article and it has some interesting points. But to me it still missing one very important point. Tippett was to be punished for his part in what was a stuff up by Adelaide. He was fined $50,000 plus 11 matches. The AFL did their part. However the Swans have agreed to pay Tippett his full annual salary for only playing 11 games. So how is Tippett's punishment justified.

Why doesn't he lose half his salary? If he had then the Giants may have picked him.
Why can Sydney afford to "waste"so much money?
Why is Sydney allowed to effectively bypass the impact on Tippett of losing 11 games.
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My understanding is that his nominated contract was something like $800k y1, $400k y2, with the intention of preventing rival clubs to bid on him because they didnt have the spare $800k in the 2013 salary cap, so his pocket is hit in 2014 instead of 2013.
 
Membling said:
I know that you guys arent fond of swans supporters at current but i am wondering when the tshirts will be ready?
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Ive always been of the opinion that the Adelaide board is for talking about Adelaide and have welcomed any and all posters, and there have been several sydney supporters discuss this issue in a respectful way. some have not.
 
cmndstab said:
I'm not about to start carding Sydney posters simply for supporting Sydney. bobbobbert was skirting the line without stepping over it. We tolerated it for a while, then asked him to move on.

Other posters have found themselves with infractions for stepping over the line.

There hasn't been a "lenient approach". The influx of Sydney posters has come because they can now laugh about having picked up Kurt Tippett for a PSD pick. Seems a bit wanky but as long as they're not assholes about it they're within their rights to post.
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I think think your definition of what constitutes arseh*le gloating is different to mine
 
Elite Crow said:
Yep because putting up with Sydney trolls makes you such a good sport, that's just weird
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I think you take Big Footy way too seriously. You cant handle a bit of banter from an over hyped supporter from another club? At the end of the day much of what bobbobbert said was pretty close the mark. What is weird, is people that claim to be grown adults needing moderators to shield them from what in many cases is harsh reality. If you are going to hand it out when things are going well you need to take it when the shit hits the fan.

For such a 'tough guy' Elite Crow, you are very quick to seek the protection of the mods when things aren't going your way.
 
Wood_Duck said:
I think you take Big Footy way too seriously. You cant handle a bit of banter from an over hyped supporter from another club? At the end of the day much of what bobbobbert said was pretty close the mark. What is weird, is people that claim to be grown adults needing moderators to shield them from what in many cases is harsh reality. If you are going to hand it out when things are going well you need to take it when the shit hits the fan.

For such a 'tough guy' Elite Crow, you are very quick to seek the protection of the mods when things aren't going your way.
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I cant handle a bit of banter? You obvioulsy havent spent any time on Bay 13.

And it has nothing to do with being tough, how old are you? Havent heard that since the school yard. He was trolling pure and simple, many others can see it, why cant you? If you dont want to put up with trolling on your own board how does that make you a bad sport, or are we all bad sports? Is the Mod who banned him a bad sport too?

You made a comment that you managed to post on the Sydney board without making a dick of yourself, implying that I had. Well if you thought what I posted over there made me a dick, why are you happy to have Sydney posters make ********s of themselves over here?

As for running to the Mods, Im in constant battle here with the seven dwarfs, have I seeked Mod intervention?
 
Cap said:
I don't think it is about moderators and being shielded.

it is about consistency and also the fact that if I wanted to read people givng the Crows shit I could simply go to bay 13 rather than read the exact same kind of comment here.
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Shoosh you bad sport
 
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