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Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)
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Apparently they call Tom Barrass the immovable object. Not because of his strength over the ball and inability to be moved, its because his back is so stuffed he can no longer move
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Not yet anyway, we will know soon enough though.
Melt..coming from the Hawks self appointmented thread stalker, you'd fit in well with a certain richmond fan..
What?
Let's not forget that he ,"AGREED" to the contract that he signed.
Mitchell pissed in his ear last time they were over in WA and he is responsible for the current state of affairs.
Bit of a scum act really when you think about it.
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Given you have started most of your posts referencing the fact that we have offered 5 years as a reason we should be giving the world for him, it absolutely does matter especially since it’s just blatantly incorrect.
In reality we’re offering to add 1 year onto his current deal and increase his wages.
If the eagles really did want to keep him, why would they not have just upped his current salary at some point over the last 2 years and called it a day? They’re the richest club in the afl with ample salary cap for the foreseeable future, so there is absolutely no reason why they wouldn’t just keep a premiership player happy, especially given it was apparently previously promised to him for turning down Sydney’s interest.
Both clubs want the deal to happen and it will likely be for less than the 2 first rounders you so bizarrely seem to be gunning for on behalf of another club
I support the Eagles holding him to his contract.
If we have the players renigging on their contracts where does it end?
We will end up like the American basketball players getting 10 mill a year.
Clubs would be broke in no time. We just don't have the population to support it.
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Hang on? He signed his current deal to run from 2022 to 2027, which was a 5 year deal so if the Hawks add a year on top to push it to 2028, wouldn’t that make it a 6 year deal?
His contract doesn’t just cease to exist if he joins a new team? You can shuffle money around but the deal is in place, you can’t just not pay what he is owed and for the timeframe he was contracted for…
I’m assuming the Eagles are happy to let him go for the right price because they don’t want to overpay as they go through their rebuild.
If Hawks want to pay him that much (they do) then that doesn’t speak to anything about the current West Coast guys in charge who didn’t sign him to that deal, it just says Hawks badly want him.
But apparently they don’t want to pay up for him? So which is it? Do Hawks want him or do Hawks not want him?
You can’t offer big money but then claim you dont want to pay much to get a contracted key position player out.
It contradicts itself….
Why do you care soo much about what I think? As you put it, it was “bizarre” for me to weigh in on a trade! Even though every man and their dog is weighing in.
What is bizarre is you single me out?…why specifically my posts? There’s plenty of others saying what I’m saying.
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He is a contracted player...Yes? That DOES mean we don't have to trade him if we don't want to.
We can hold him to the contract he negotiated. I doubt that will happen, but we can certainly negotiate from a position of power.
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Still reckon this one drags out all week and then finally ends up being
TB and w future 4th.
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#13 and a future 2nd.
TB and w future 4th.
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#13 and a future 2nd.
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I'm trying to consider an equivalent here.
Also trying not to sound too biased.
However, for me it comes back to the same concept of Hawthorn trading contractes players O'Meara and Mitchell due to the stage we were at in our rebuild.
The difference of course being that it was obvious the removal of those two would improve our midfield immediately.
The scenario for Barrass and West Coast is similar, with the main differences being that Tom is a key position player (who can be valued differently), and losing him won't necessarily improve West Coasts backline.
However, when you compare the two scenarios, and what Hawthorn were happy to accept for Mitchell and O'Meara, then pick 13 and a future 2nd or third honestly very fair.
Also trying not to sound too biased.
However, for me it comes back to the same concept of Hawthorn trading contractes players O'Meara and Mitchell due to the stage we were at in our rebuild.
The difference of course being that it was obvious the removal of those two would improve our midfield immediately.
The scenario for Barrass and West Coast is similar, with the main differences being that Tom is a key position player (who can be valued differently), and losing him won't necessarily improve West Coasts backline.
However, when you compare the two scenarios, and what Hawthorn were happy to accept for Mitchell and O'Meara, then pick 13 and a future 2nd or third honestly very fair.
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1. As of next year he will have 3 years left on his current deal ending in 2027, we have offered him a 4 year deal which would take him through to 2028.
2. If eagles actually wanted to keep him they would have rewarded a long time servant and premiership player of the club by increasing his contract, especially given it was apparently promised to him after he turned down the move to the swans.
Why didn’t Geelong pay 4 first round picks to gws when they wanted to poach Cameron? You offered a massive contract to one of the best key forwards in the comp, why didn’t you pay up?
The reason hawthorn won’t just “pay up” is exactly the same reason Geelong didn’t just pay the first request that gws made. Both sides have leverage in these trades.
Eagles clearly value low picks and opening up a space in the team for Edwards more than a 29 year old key defender, who has a significant back injury.
Why single you out? You’re an opposition fan who is
1. Completely incorrect about the terms that the hawks have offered to barrass despite using it as the basis of the reason we should be giving up the world.
2. Ignoring all of the nuance of the situation and dumbing down any actual discussion of the trade by bleating “hawk offer contract, pay price now”
We arent forcing Barrass out, hes shopping himself around and we are just allowing him to do so IF a suitable trade presented.
Not quite what you guys had with Mitchell and Omeara
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I’m not sure at this point it’s the Eagles they have to satisfy! It’s you?
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But it will certainly help with your rebuild, which is of great importance.
Pick 13 (or at the very least, the 13th best player available in the open pool if you want to consider the bids on father sons etc) is a great addition to your draft hand.
I agree thatd be a great addition, but at the same time we arent pushing him out, hes wanting out on his own steam while being contracted.
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lol is this real?
Quick maths
Half right, regarding Mitchell and O'meara, which is the equivalent of being wrong. Much like WC posters on this site and there embarassing trade claims regarding Barrass.
So after all of that you could just say what I said which was a slight restructure in his contract. He’s still owed the same years and dollars, if Hawks take him they are just adding extras onto an existing deal. Glad we clarified it.
The current front office didn’t promise him anything? Didn’t I just say that before? Why would they owe him anything promised by people who don’t work there?
In fact, this group seems like they are doing more right by him by actually taking his trade request seriously and not beating around the bush about value and where they are at. They inherited a rebuild, they know he wants to go compete. Nothing they have done is wrong in any way whatsoever? They didn’t jerk him around, people who aren’t there anymore were the ones who did that.
If a company gets bought out and you’re an employee who has been promised a handshake deal payraise by from the former management who are now all gone and been replaced by new owners, the new guys are under zero obligation to follow through with what previous management promises were.
Especially when nothing was put into writing, that’s not wrong, that’s astute business practices.
Fixing the mistakes previous management made.
Does it suck for Tom? Sure but then why didn’t they get it in writing in the first place? You never just go on a handshake, everyone knows that.
sigh Really? Jeremy Cameron was a free agent….Tom Barrass is not.
That is in no way relatable to this situation and is a silly point to bring up.
Same as people bringing up Jack Bowes…that was insane as well. Not even remotely close to relevant to Tom Barrass and this trade deal.
If that’s your reasoning then I can already see you’re arguing from a place of misinformation.
Eagles clearly value what will help their rebuild…which is picks for players who while have been fantastic servants for the club, are not on the same path that the club is. It is now the best interests of both parties to part ways, and while Eagles have said they were happy to keep him, they understand the situation and have granted him his request. Now they will work out a deal.
It just went around in circles when I said he’s already on a 5 year deal, you said it became a 4 year offer, but then it changed and became just “a year tacked onto his current contract and a slight increase in money”….that doesn’t seem consistent.
Are you sure you know what the details are? Is it a brand new 4 year offer? Or is it a reshuffling of his current contract he’s already on at the Eagles? Just trying to keep up with what the offer is.
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West coast are gonna fist Hok with this one. Late 20s, very injury prone, never AA, always had elite support with McGovern, Hurn and Schofield his whole career.
Hok should walk away and just take the W with battle free of charge IMO.
Hok should walk away and just take the W with battle free of charge IMO.
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