Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[CaptainWorpedo]

Freo sent their leadership group to have coffee with him, not sure WCE did the same, considering he's a massive WCE nuffy and only nominated them once McQualter was appointed.

I mean, as fun as melting is, I'm sure deals will get done for all players that will be reasonable enough.

The trade period is way too long, it’s ridiculous!

I’d like the AFl to role FA / trade and draft in a big two week televised event:

F/A 3 days
Trade 7 days
Draft 4 days

 

[bzparkes]

bzparkes you're not that naive are you that player managers and list managers are constantly discussing opportunities for players to move during the season.

Hawthorn didn't just randomly wake up one morning and say 'Hey, let's trade for a contracted player, hmmm Tom Barrass could be that player'.

It was made known he was interested in moving elsewhere. Notwithstanding the 'handshake agreement' that was reneged on or that fact that your list manager wants to get young talent to rebuild with.

Sure.

But WCE are still going to need an offer that satisfies them for a contracted a grade player.

Fairly simple to understand, I'd have thought.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Sure.

But WCE are still going to need an offer that satisfies them for a contracted a grade player.

Fairly simple to understand, I'd have thought.

Works both way though, Hawks don’t have to pay what eagles want either.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Please comprehend “ Irrelevant “ contract if eagles have pushed Barrass to look around.

Personally I think Barrass will be annoying if he was told to find another home by the eagles.

As I said before, don’t like the offer … Keep Barrass, it’s not the end of the world for us. We offered what we consider fair value and eagles rejected it. No big deal….

We did our duty of care to the player.

You offered him more years and more money.

You hunted him , he and Eagle's didn't hunt you

We would have pushed him to St Kilda if we had a say. Out of all the teams possible Hawks are the worst options

Doggies/Sydney/St Kildahave more then you to offer

 

[bzparkes]

Works both way though, Hawks don’t have to pay what eagles want either.

You think they didn't know what Eagles wanted before asking Barrass to publicly commit to them?

Seems like they knew already then tried to lowball on the first day and WCE told them to go and find something better.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Works both way though, Hawks don’t have to pay what eagles want either.

Then your chances of a premiership plummet

We just keep a top quality FB and miss out on Liam Baker

We know who gets hurt more in this scenario

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Then your chances of a premiership plummet

We just keep a top quality FB and miss out on Liam Baker

We know who gets hurt more in this scenario

Your rebuild slows down more than our chance at a premiership.

There’s more than one player the AFL

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

You think they didn't know what Eagles wanted before asking Barrass to publicly commit to them?

Seems like they knew already then tried to lowball on the first day and WCE told them to go and find something better.

You make a lot of assumptions, no one has stated or shown any evidence the Hawks asked Barrass to make this news public.

 

[VicBased]

You think they didn't know what Eagles wanted before asking Barrass to publicly commit to them?

Seems like they knew already then tried to lowball on the first day and WCE told them to go and find something better.

Yep, agreed. Hawthorn are showing their disingenuous side.
Had a few wins toward the end of the year and became all cocky.
Let's see if they can sustain that effort into next year or will they do a Carlton and slide back.
Not the first or last time a team have gotten ahead of themselves.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Yep, agreed. Hawthorn are showing their disingenuous side.
Had a few wins toward the end of the year and became all cocky.
Let's see if they can sustain that effort into next year or will they do a Carlton and slide back.
Not the first or last time a team have gotten ahead of themselves.

You’ve taken the media’s line as truth. The eagles could have been consulted with the recent draft pick exchange…. In fact they may of even like it.

Guess we will find out soon.

 

[bzparkes]

You make a lot of assumptions, no one has stated or shown any evidence the Hawks asked Barrass to make this news public.

The fact he's made the request means it would end up public, as he's committed to one club.

Which means Hawthorn would've said they have the trade capital to satisfy west coast to release their full back, who has a 3 year contract with the club.

 

[Come back Cyril]

Yep, agreed. Hawthorn are showing their disingenuous side.
Had a few wins toward the end of the year and became all cocky.
Let's see if they can sustain that effort into next year or will they do a Carlton and slide back.
Not the first or last time a team have gotten ahead of themselves

Great. So Barrass for F1st then? Great pick once we slide back..

 

[HairyO]

Then why come for a contracted player to begin with?

Because WCE said they were ok with him leaving. Particularly as it saves the embarrassment of renegging on a handshake deal.

If they said he was required and going nowhere it would have ended then.

3 years from now Eagles with him are worse than if he goes. We will be fine either way. Which is why all of us are wanting the club to stay with our reasonable offers.

Has any non Eagles supporter said we are trading in bad faith? There may be something to that.

 

[Da Game]

As far as I can tell according to media reports WCE asked for pick 14 and a F2 for Barrass and we said no. We then countered with Barrass and a F3 for 14 and a F2 which WCE said no. I think 1 F1 and 1 F2 for Barrass is meeting in the middle.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

He did. And 2 of his goals came from marks where Weddle was in front, took the mark, then Hogan just grabbed the ball out of his hands and was awarded the mark.

In theory there is a rule that says the man in front gets the mark, but these days umpires almost always award the mark to the forward because the AFL favours goals over anything else - because Ch 7 get to run more ads.

I think most Hawthorn supporters would be okay if the deal ends up not happening because we refuse to be bent over. Deep down I think most WCE supporters will be upset if it doesnt go ahead.

Like Saints supporters (and their President) when they thought they were only getting Band 2 comp for Battle saying they really wanted Battle to stay but its all cheers once they got massive overs for him.

Excuses

 

[bzparkes]

Because WCE said they were ok with him leaving. Particularly as it saves the embarrassment of renegging on a handshake deal.

If they said he was required and going nowhere it would have ended then.

3 years from now Eagles with him are worse than if he goes. We will be fine either way. Which is why all of us are wanting the club to stay with our reasonable offers.

Has any non Eagles supporter said we are trading in bad faith? There may be something to that.

They said they were ok with him leaving, provided they get fair compensation.

What's so difficult to understand?

 

[TazHawk15]

They said they were ok with him leaving, provided they get fair compensation.

What's so difficult to understand?

The Hawks are working on a way to get a fair compensation deal done.

What’s so difficult to understand?

Relax it will get done.

 

[SSSSSS]

Surely turning Pick 3 into Baker and 12 will get several people fired lol.

 

[VicBased]

Great. So Barrass for F1st then? Great pick once we slide back..

You have two F1's and might be coughing those up to us.

 

[HairyO]

Excuses

If you want excuses, why did WCE do so poorly despite having so many great players who apparently are worth multiple 1st round picks?

Do we have any ?

 

[TazHawk15]

You have two F1's and might be coughing those up to us.

Also we might not be.

 

[bzparkes]

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Surely turning Pick 3 into Baker and 12 will get several people fired lol.

Something we can all agree on, at least.

 

[SSSSSS]

Something we can all agree on, at least.

Is he reliable at all? He's not a VIC Journo.

If he is...you need to burn the joint down.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

The fact he's made the request means it would end up public, as he's committed to one club.

Which means Hawthorn would've said they have the trade capital to satisfy west coast to release their full back, who has a 3 year contract with the club.

Na. Disagree!

Been many trades fall over before as two clubs couldn’t agree on value. Contracted or Not…..

 

[bzparkes]

Na. Disagree!

Been many trades fall over before as two clubs couldn’t agree on value. Contracted or Not…..

There really haven't been that many, especially when one side has spent months working on a player to nominate them.

The ones you're talking about are the surprise ones that seem to pop-up at the start of trade week, list managers have a quick chat and decide it's too much.

WCE and Hawks would've spent months discussing the value.