Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[WestCoast05]

Hmm okay but that was a situation where the selling side was very keen for the move

We are defintly not keen for this move. I think its more of a Lachie Schultz situation. Freo had him under contract, were not keen on him leaving so Collingwood paid overs

Schultz went for 2nd rounder and future 1st..... I think Barass is better then Schulz yeah ?

Schultz is hardly the guideline for ANY trade, the opposite in fact.
(as some Tigers supporters in the Baker thread need to be reminded also)

 

[Ka Norkers]

wrt the deal being done, I was talking about the two clubs involved. WCE and Hawks are reasonable, unlike Essendon and the Swans, who have a long history of the opposite.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Difference is that those sides could afford to hold onto players, as they weren’t in desperate need to get picks in before a bunch of drafts with concessions to a new side were given.

Eagles hold Barass and they slow down their attempt at a rebuild.

If Hawthorn don't then have the currency for him... then trading less than they should get for him will also slow down their attempt at a rebuild.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Why would Tassie coming into the comp in 4 years have any bearing on the Eagles drafts in 2024, 2025 and 2026? By the time Tassie comes into the competition the Eagles rebuild will be over.

Barrass also isn't our only option to trade out to generate more picks this draft.

Draft will likely be impacted from 2026. You’ve got 2024 and 2025 to get your shit together.

Eagles won’t hold Barass.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Difference is that those sides could afford to hold onto players, as they weren’t in desperate need to get picks in before a bunch of drafts with concessions to a new side were given.

Eagles hold Barass and they slow down their attempt at a rebuild.

I think you are inverting who the onus is on here.

West Coast aren’t pushing Barrass out. We’ve been through this the last 3 years with TB and every time we have been more than happy to keep him.

KPD’s of TB quality are becoming extremely rare on the market. Hawthorn threw the bag at Mackay, a far inferior player and by all accounts Mitchell was very flat having missed out.

Mitchell knows the list needs another KPD as it allows Weddle and Sicily to play looser and more attacking brand.

Hawks will pay up to get the deal done. Hawks will want to give up their first, West Coast would want Hawks F1 thrown in as well.

It will end up somewhere between the two.

Despite some supporters on both sides. This will be an easy trade and likely done on day 1 or 2.

 

[pantskyle]

Draft will likely be impacted from 2026. You’ve got 2024 and 2025 to get your shit together.

Eagles won’t hold Barass.

Likely impacted? Oh well we better get a move on and let Barrass go for unders.

 

[triple treat]

Likely impacted? Oh well we better get a move on and let Barrass go for unders.

Do you honestly think that side will be rebuilt in the next 3 years? Hahaha

 

[pantskyle]

Do you honestly think that side will be rebuilt in the next 3 years? Hahaha

Did you honestly think the Hawks would be already?

We're one year into our 3 year plan to be the youngest or one of the youngest teams in the comp. We've hit the draft over the last few seasons and I expect two more drafts to go before we're ready to start hitting trade targets. In the following years we'll also hit free agency. We have a stacked draft next year with NGAs and a F/S who is tracking nicely.

I don't expect at all that come Tasmania that the Eagles are still hitting the drafts to rebuild.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Difference is that those sides could afford to hold onto players, as they weren’t in desperate need to get picks in before a bunch of drafts with concessions to a new side were given.

Eagles hold Barass and they slow down their attempt at a rebuild.

Pick 12 isnt going to magically fix our club...

Its just not that important. Now if you had pick 3 and were giving it thats another story

 

[Delisted]

The entitlement of the WCE fans is absurd. Recently we've already given them Brockman for basically nothing and we even gave them a lend of Sammy. Get what your given.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

The entitlement of the WCE fans is absurd. Recently we've already given them Brockman for basically nothing and we even gave them a lend of Sammy. Get what your given.

Sad thing is these nuffs crying over wanting 2 firsts will probably get their way because we bend over very easily.

 

[bradfisher14]

Tom, if you're reading this, Carlton is way cooler than Hawthorn.

Would you rather wear the iconic navy blue or something that resembles poo and wee?

Easy decision IMO.

 

[amazingjoshy]

The entitlement of the WCE fans is absurd. Recently we've already given them Brockman for basically nothing and we even gave them a lend of Sammy. Get what your given.

Regarding Brockman, you can have him back if you like

I was reliably told by Hawks supporters last year he was easily worth a 2nd rounder and probably a 1st so I'm bit wary listening to them again this year

 

[Delisted]

Regarding Brockman, you can have him back if you like

I was reliably told by Hawks supporters last year he was easily worth a 2nd rounder and probably a 1st so I'm bit wary listening to them again this year

Not our fault you stuffed him.

 

[Philhawk]

Regarding Brockman, you can have him back if you like

I was reliably told by Hawks supporters last year he was easily worth a 2nd rounder and probably a 1st so I'm bit wary listening to them again this year

Isn’t it amazing how one eyed fans can be about their own players’ trade value.

Glad we aren’t dealing with that now with Barrass.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Sad thing is these nuffs crying over wanting 2 firsts will probably get their way because we bend over very easily.

Wont be 2 firsts

 

[TylerDurden]

Regarding Brockman, you can have him back if you like

I was reliably told by Hawks supporters last year he was easily worth a 2nd rounder and probably a 1st so I'm bit wary listening to them again this year

Would gladly take him back.

 

[Delisted]

We can offer some anger management lessons for young Harley from Sicily, plus a swap of second round picks.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Hawthorn, at an important point in their rebuild, let vice captain Jaeger O'Meara

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and Brownlow winner Tom Mitchell (both contracted) go for not much.

I understand that A grade key position defenders are harder to find, but why is Barrass worth two first rounders when the aforementioned players were worth 2nd and 3rds?

I firmly believe this will get done for a first round draft pick, and depending on where we finish this season potentially later picks on top.
But two firsts would be negligent on our behalf and personally I hope we wouldn't do it.

A first round pick in this draft and a returning James Blanck is a great fallback option when the price could be Tom Barrass

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and no access to the first round of 2 consecutive drafts.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Isn’t it amazing how one eyed fans can be about their own players’ trade value.

Glad we aren’t dealing with that now with Barrass.

There's one eyed and there's plain stupid

 

[Ace McKane]

The entitlement of the WCE fans is absurd. Recently we've already given them Brockman for basically nothing and we even gave them a lend of Sammy. Get what your given.

I think Brockman can certainly make an impact for us in the future, however he's had a false start with off field issues and barely made a dent in the WAFL side this season let alone AFL. If West Coast wanted to bend Hawthorn over last year they'd have walked him to the PSD given he was uncontracted. Instead they worked out a pretty reasonable trade where Hawthorn were happy enough and Tyler had certainty.

Sam Mitchell is etched into history at our footy club after 2018 - he will always be a very well respected player/coach over here. My respect for Hawthorn has grown hugely after what he's been able to achieve so far.

We also don't owe Hawthorn anything for either transaction. Neither club is out to bend one another over and it's rare that happens at all, PSD part included. West Coast do have the leverage but no doubt they will factor in doing the right thing by Barrass and his family.

Sad thing is these nuffs crying over wanting 2 firsts will probably get their way because we bend over very easily.

What's he worth? Anything other than outrageous speculation is impossible given the rarity of a player like Barrass hitting the market. Eagles fan or not, he's a star KPD that would make an impact on the performance and leadership group of any club. I think it's pretty set that there will be a first rounder involved at the very least, who knows what sort of complexities they will work out to solve the rest. Admittedly I would laugh all the way to the draft if we ended up with two firsts, however as we know it's far more likely it'll land somewhere in between.

As mentioned above, we saw with McKay that the established KPD market is literally whatever a club is willing to pay at that point in time. Two firsts is certainly a bit of a stretch, but how desperate are Hawthorn to sign a blue chip key position player who's already under long term contract in his home state? Amazingly, Hawthorn could well be in a premiership window and in the position to throw the kitchen sink at a couple of these guys to seal it. Particularly when the acquisition of a player like Barrass just allows more freedom for your best? player Sicily to continue dominating.

**** me, the tin rattlers ended up with Pick 3 in compensation for McKay who made $1.5mil this year? Not for one second am I saying that Hawthorn will need to pull a top 3 pick out of their backsides for Barrass, but objectively I think we all know what player we'd prefer in a premiership run.

 

[pantskyle]

I'm waiting on Brockman, new club + off field stuff, showed signs and I think come next year will take the next step.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

What's he worth?

Probably a first and second for TB and a third or something.

Players involved who knows. I wish the fans did the trades each year. Not one deal would get done

 

[bzparkes]

The entitlement of the WCE fans is absurd. .

Ah yes, the entitlement of fans expecting a decent return for our vice captain and top 5 KPD(who's contracted for 3 years) after Hawks 'graciously' let us have an uncontracted Brockman we could've walked to the PSD for a pick in the 40s.

The audacity!

Get a few wins and the real entitlement of some Hawks fans has apparently reared its head.

 

[Iceman!]

Ah yes, the entitlement of fans expecting a decent return for our vice captain and top 5 KPD(who's contracted for 3 years) after Hawks 'graciously' let us have an uncontracted Brockman we could've walked to the PSD for a pick in the 40s.

The audacity!

Get a few wins and the real entitlement of some Hawks fans has apparently reared its head.

Decent return is fine, most are demanding extreme overs 'because he is contracted' despite knowing it is in the best interest of the club to move on from him.