Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I definitely didn’t say that.

He’s worth a 1st and that’s what it will most likely be…. Maybe a sweetener thrown in but nothing crazy.

A 2nd rounder is a sweetner and nothing crazy though. Fighting tooth and nail for a pick in the 30s isnt something you do when you want to finish top 4

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

If Richmond people are bleeting about Baker being a first rounder then Barrass is worth multiple of that. And I'm not even being a nuffie about it. He's one of the clubs captains and best players still on the latter part of his prime that will make the Hawks infinitely better.

You gotta pay something for that.

I think the trade could end up being Hawks 1st and 2nd if Hawthorn ends up top 6. I think that's a fair trade as a Fremantle supporter. Barrass to Hawks would allow Sicilly to play in an intercept role and Weddle to play more forward so thats two big plusses for the Hawks. Meanwhile I could WC using the Hawks 2nd rounder and the WC second + WC 4th rounder for Brisbane 1st which could then be used to get Baker.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I think the trade could end up being Hawks 1st and 2nd if Hawthorn ends up top 6. I think that's a fair trade as a Fremantle supporter. Barrass to Hawks would allow Sicilly to play in an intercept role and Weddle to play more forward so thats two big plusses for the Hawks. Meanwhile I could WC using the Hawks 2nd rounder and the WC second + WC 4th rounder for Brisbane 1st which could then be used to get Baker.

Pick 22 plus pick 30 plus pick 55 for pick 15? Yeah no thanks

 

[Iceman!]

A 2nd rounder is a sweetner and nothing crazy though. Fighting tooth and nail for a pick in the 30s isnt something you do when you want to finish top 4

It can be when the goal is to have sustained success and not just finish top 4.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

It can be when the goal is to have sustained success and not just finish top 4.

Then you shouldnt trade for Barass at all in this example . A trade for Barass has nothing to do with sustained success

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Rd 1 and 2 for a 25 yr old Steven May

1

Steven May

Age

32

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

Round 1 is about right
Maybe a sweetener

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Rd 1 and 2 for a 25 yr old Steven May

Round 1 is about right
Maybe a sweetener

Contracted vs uncontracted I’m afraid.

Also if you had pick 6 like Melbourne had then yeah pick 6 for Barass is lovely

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Contracted vs uncontracted I’m afraid.

Also if you had pick 6 like Melbourne had then yeah pick 6 for Barass is lovely

4 years age difference I’m afraid

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

4 years age difference I’m afraid

Which is why we are gettng less still? Pick 11 + 30 odd vs pick 6 is a enormous difference.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Which is why we are gettng less still? Pick 11 + 30 odd vs pick 6 is an enormous difference.

A 5 pick drop is about it

6 v 11

Sounds right

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

A 5 pick drop is about it

6 v 11

Sounds right

Pick 6 would be traded for pick 10 and 12 in such a draft, that’s how big a difference it is. If you jad pick 6 I’d give Barasss + 22 for pick 6 for example

 

[Bradkli]

5 years is a big risk but you have to trust Sam Mitchell and his list management team.

Welcome Tom

 

[bluespooner]

Pick 6 would be traded for pick 10 and 12 in such a draft, that’s how big a difference it is. If you jad pick 6 I’d give Barasss + 22 for pick 6 for example

The eagles won't be getting a first and second round pick for a 29 year old with a bad back. If the eagles wanted that return they shouldn't traded him 4 years ago. In my opinion, Barrass is worth a pick around 20 and a fringe player such as Denver Grainger Barrass or Ned Reeves.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The eagles won't be getting a first and second round pick for a 29 year old with a bad back. If the eagles wanted that return they shouldn't traded him 4 years ago. In my opinion, Barrass is worth a pick around 20 and a fringe player such as Denver Grainger Barrass or Ned Reeves.

Then we would keep him and move on with our lives basically.

 

[Shade]

Have to give the hawks credit they are going for it next year.

No pussy footing sink or swim stuff

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[bluespooner]

Then we would keep him and move on with our lives basically.

And that would be fine. I think at the respective stages of their careers an athletic Sam Frost able to play on bigs and smalls offers significantly more than a geriatric Barrass.

The eagles should try and deal with Sam Power, a notorious tight arse at the trade table and see what you get.

 

[hawkman]

Will he play the next 2 weeks or wrap him in cotton wool to protect the trade value?

 

[Big_Birdy]

Will he play the next 2 weeks or wrap him in cotton wool to protect the trade value?

Well if Curnow and McKay were playing this week I would have said he will play.

With both of them probably being out wouldn’t shock me to just wrap him up (they may have done so regardless)

 

[TylerDurden]

Will he play the next 2 weeks or wrap him in cotton wool to protect the trade value?

Playing this week apparently.

 

[TY24]

I definitely didn’t say that.

He’s worth a 1st and that’s what it will most likely be…. Maybe a sweetener thrown in but nothing crazy.

The kicker is that he's contracted for another 3 seasons. If the Eagles have any spine at all, they will play hardball and make you pay overs. Under Don Pyke, I'd like to think the days of us buckling at the trade table are behind us.

He might be only worth a 1st and some steak knives... but being contracted for another 3 years puts that value up significantly.

 

[TylerDurden]

The kicker is that he's contracted for another 3 seasons. If the Eagles have any spine at all, they will play hardball and make you pay overs. Under Don Pyke, I'd like to think the days of us buckling at the trade table are behind us.

He might be only worth a 1st and some steak knives... but being contracted for another 3 years puts that value up significantly.

You're pushing him out mate.

 

[TY24]

You're pushing him out mate.

We're pushing him out because we want picks, not because we no longer want him.

The arrow has to go backwards before it gets shot forwards.

The Eagles will ask for your 1st and a future 1st. You'll offer us a 1st and a 3rd, we'll meet in the middle for a 1st and a 2nd I reckon.

 

[Iceman!]

The kicker is that he's contracted for another 3 seasons. If the Eagles have any spine at all, they will play hardball and make you pay overs. Under Don Pyke, I'd like to think the days of us buckling at the trade table are behind us.

He might be only worth a 1st and some steak knives... but being contracted for another 3 years puts that value up significantly.

This is Big footy talk really. They have the final say obviously on whether he moves or not but at the end of the day they have a decision to make. Do they force a player who wants to leave to stay or do they try and make a deal in the best interests of everyone involved.

 

[Iceman!]

We're pushing him out because we want picks, not because we no longer want him.

The arrow has to go backwards before it gets shot forwards.

The Eagles will ask for your 1st and a future 1st. You'll offer us a 1st and a 3rd, we'll meet in the middle for a 1st and a 2nd I reckon.

Yes but when you push a player out for picks it makes it hard to then say 'oh fine we will just keep him'.

It is a balancing act the Hawks had to deal with over the past handful of years and it can be tough.