Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027] - Reportedly headed to Hawthorn

[tigs2010]

Please make this happen

If we keep Barrass and then dont get Baker, im stoked with that result

You still have Graham though don't forget

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Being smacked in finals is still a whole lot better than whatever the Eagles are doing at the moment.

Calm your farm though. The deal will get done. Nothing surer.

Eagles didn't like what we offered. Fair enough. We've gone out and tried to piece together something different.

As much as we suck im still happier to be us then say St Kilda in that mid table mediocrity patch

 

[Iceman!]

Nisbett made a 'handshake' deal.

That's not a club promise and it wasn't smart of Barrass to go against his manager's advice and not get it in writing.

I agree it wasn’t smart I’ve never argued that, but he clearly won’t want to return. At the end of the day a deal almost certainly gets done. I just think the dick measuring contest over who has more leverage is so silly.

 

[SSSSSS]

4D chess move. Galaxy brain by Sleepy Mark McKenzie.

Hawks amassing picks to make a play at Harley next year

It was all a smoke screen.

 

[stallon]

I'm not going to pretend to know what is going on behind closed doors but I imagine WC said they needed more than pick 14 and their request for more was more than Hawthorn were keen to pay so they talked to some other clubs (i.e. Carlton) to sound out what more they can get with what they have and ran that by West Coast, who agreed.

Now they're executing those deal(s) to satisfy West Coast. I have no idea exactly what hat looks like (and neither does anyone else).

Usually the most one-eyed supporters on both sides will be dissatisfied with the final deal (suggesting it is probably about right)

If the Hawks are trying to find another way to satisfy the Eagles, trading out of this years draft probably isnt the way to get it done

 

[TiAn_]

Would have thought pick 14 in this draft would be better than an F1. But now the Hawks can offer an F1 and F2 straight up and still have a full suite of picks next year.

 

[bzparkes]

Nisbett made a 'handshake' deal.

That's not a club promise and it wasn't smart of Barrass to go against his manager's advice and not get it in writing.

More than one way to skin a cat.

Offloading one of your best players for pittance isn't a smart list management strategy, especially when it says to other clubs you're happy to be bent over.

 

[stallon]

Would have thought pick 14 in this draft would be better than an F1. But now the Hawks can offer an F1 and F2 straight up and still have a full suite of picks next year.

Why would we take a f1 and f2, when thats basically the same value as the pick 14 we turned down?

 

[SSSSSS]

More than one way to skin a cat.

Offloading one of your best players for pittance isn't a smart list management strategy, especially when it says to other clubs you're happy to be bent over.

I would hardly call Pick 14 and a second a pittance for a 29 year old with some health concerns (There is a very small but real risk that he won't play much footy - I'm sure both clubs have done plenty of due diligence and back their medical teams to get him running but there's no guarantees in his body staying healthy).

 

[bzparkes]

I agree it wasn’t smart I’ve never argued that, but he clearly won’t want to return. At the end of the day a deal almost certainly gets done. I just think the dick measuring contest over who has more leverage is so silly.

He will easily return, according to one of his closest mates(Schofield).

He's likely to be far more pissed with Hawthorn if they can't get a deal done.

 

[bzparkes]

I would hardly call Pick 14 and a second a pittance for a 29 year old with some health concerns (There is a very small but real risk that he won't play much footy - I'm sure both clubs have done plenty of due diligence and back their medical teams to get him running but there's no guarantees).

Anyone could get a head knock next game and their career over in a heartbeat.

If you're going to worry about that stuff, no player is worth much in a trade.

 

[Dewwwww]

Why would we take a f1 and f2, when thats basically the same value as the pick 14 we turned down?

Pick 14 was always going to go to the tigers for Baker anyway so 14 is irrelevant if tigers are happy with a F1 instead

 

[SSSSSS]

There isn't much to look forward to next year for the Eagles.

Why don't you add some excitement by death riding Carlton in 2025.

They've had a couple of decent years so they're due a stint at the bottom for rebuild #100.

 

[illegaleagle]

Barass and future second for Carlton and hawthorns future first. One of those future firsts for baker

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

People are missing the point altogether

We are not losing out on Pick 14. We are missing out on Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

.

This is a win to most Eagles fans. We call that being saved from ourselves

 

[Iceman!]

He will easily return, according to one of his closest mates(Schofield).

He's likely to be far more pissed with Hawthorn if they can't get a deal done.

I am sure Schofield is totally impartial here as well.

Again it’s in no one’s best interest for a trade not to happen. The leverage argument is stupid.

 

[ghostbat12]

Being smacked in finals is still a whole lot better than whatever the Eagles are doing at the moment.

Calm your farm though. The deal will get done. Nothing surer.

Eagles didn't like what we offered. Fair enough. We've gone out and tried to piece together something different.

Is it? Getting smacked is better than eagles chasing value on contracted player? Hmm

I am calm. Perfectly calm. Enjoying that list manager is going harder as we suspected he was weak. Love it.

 

[SSSSSS]

Anyone could get a head knock next game and their career over in a heartbeat.

If you're going to worry about that stuff, no player is worth much in a trade.

Sure but let's not be ridiculous. Not every player has medically verifiable back concerns. Barrass does.

Like I said, it's a very small but real risk. Our team would not have courted him nor would the Dogs/Swans if they didn't back our medical team to keep him right.

 

[markr]

He's likely to be far more pissed with Hawthorn if they can't get a deal done.

Hawks aren't likely to care that he's pissed if he doesn't play for them.

 

[yeahmate]

Hawks now can offer haw f1, carlt f2 and haw r2 this year to get it done

 

[bzparkes]

Sure but let's not be ridiculous. Not every player has medically verifiable back concerns. Barrass does.

Like I said, it's a very small but real risk. Our team would not have courted him nor would the Dogs/Swans if they didn't back our medical team to keep him right.

He also played nearly the entire year with zero issues, other than a hamstring, which he could've returned from.

His injury isn't one that gets worse over time.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Why would we take a f1 and f2, when thats basically the same value as the pick 14 we turned down?

I don't understand this thinking? Will your premiership window have closed in 12 months? Will you no longer want/need draft picks?

Why would a first be worth the same as a better first and a decent 2nd?

 

[ghostbat12]

I don't recall a single big forward getting a hold of us this year apart from Hogan, who pretty much got a hold of everyone.

Yep it’s why Sam doesn’t really believe he needs a new fullback. Chasing of significant player was not out of need. Just out of fun.

Well ain’t funny now.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Pick 14 was always going to go to the tigers for Baker anyway so 14 is irrelevant if tigers are happy with a F1 instead

This is depressing but true.

FML

 

[bzparkes]

Hawks aren't likely to care that he's pissed if he doesn't play for them.

No, but his manager will be.

Guess who else his manager looks after?...