Top 10 Players Since 2000

[Cleansweep17]

1. G Ablett jnr
2. L Franklin
3. C Judd
4. A Goodes
5. L Hodge
6. N Fyfe
7. S Johnson
8. T Greene
9. C Rioli
10. S Pendlebury


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Can you please come back when you’ve learned to troll better.

 

[Yoda_]

If it was a ten player spine…followers no wings

Lloyd
Franklin Reiwoldt Martin
Judd Goodes GAJ Fyfe
Rance
Scarlett

good shout



the disrespect Lloyd gets is staggering.. No player in the open AFL era had a larger gap to second in some of his Coleman winning seasons. Mind-blowing just how dominant he was as a key forward with contemporaries such as Fevola, Hall were still kicking

 

[Handsuper47]

I wonder where the big ruckmen like Cox, Sandilands and Ottens would rank up there. Truly great rucks never get the respect they deserve.

 

[Bloody]

So far there's only 2 players in the VFL/AFL to play 300+ games, play in a Premiership and win a Brownlow medal: Jimmy Bartel and Simon Black. Soon it will be 3 players, Dusty will join them.

What? Can double the list of '2' off top of my head..gonna have to add NS to filters to narrow it down to Dusty i think
Goodes
Sam Mitchell
Aker
Ricciuto

 

[Lunchtime]

What? Can double the list of '2' off top of my head..gonna have to add NS to filters to narrow it down to Dusty i think
Goodes
Sam Mitchell
Aker
Ricciuto

My initial post forgot the Norm Smith medal element.

 

[Fadge]

Pendlebury, averaging 23.9 possessions and 0.2 goals per game and Martin averaging 22.0 possessions and 1.6 goals per game, I think the gap between Martin and Pendlebury in Finals footy is quite wide in my opinion and it's in Martin's favour.

Just to shed some further light on the Martin GOAT finals player myth, if we just want to focus on possessions and goals, let's check out the record of one Stevie Johnson....

Steve Johnson averaged 1.7 goals and 20 touches in finals, doing it over 26 games at two clubs, at the start of its run in 04-05, during its champion stage, it’s past its prime stage, and at a new club in its infancy...

But we're being told another guy who did it in 16 games is the best ever because 22 and 1.6 is the best of the millenium because of 16 games almost entirely played during 4 years with a team at the peak of its powers, at his peak playing age?

Critical Thinking... is important.

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Judd's Carlton years are massively underrated in hindsight i reckon. Yes, he was lucky to win the Brownlow in 2010, and i think a lot of people judge him harshly for that and for the fact he was different player from his WC prime. But he was by the best player in it in 2011 and should have won the Brownlow then.

He was the best player in the game as a freakish burst, goal-kicking mid at WC and then experienced debilitating groin injuries that robbed him of his greatest strength. So what does he do? Turn himself into the best player in the game as a clearance and contested ball pig. I feel like that gets under appreicated when these sorts of comparisons come up because his WC years were so eye-catching

He's also 2nd only to Dusty as a big game player and leader both are comfortably better than GAJ in the former and there's a host of players better than him as far as the latter is concerned. GAJ was far more me, me, me, and was a downright calamitous leader than any of the other greats since 2000 and he should be judged more harshly for that in these lists imo

 

[Cleansweep17]

Just to shed some further light on the Martin GOAT finals player myth, if we just want to focus on possessions and goals, let's check out the record of one Stevie Johnson....

Steve Johnson averaged 1.7 goals and 20 touches in finals, doing it over 26 games at two clubs, at the start of its run in 04-05, during its champion stage, it’s past its prime stage, and at a new club in its infancy...

But we're being told another guy who did it in 16 games is the best ever because 22 and 1.6 is the best of the millenium because of 16 games almost entirely played during 4 years with a team at the peak of its powers, at his peak playing age?

Critical Thinking... is important.

Good thing him being considered the best finals player ever isn’t based on disposals and goals, it’s based on awards and influence

 

[Fadge]

Good thing him being considered the best finals player ever isn’t based on disposals and goals, it’s based on awards

Is that right?

So players like Bachar Houli, Dion Prestia, Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt are amongst the long list of Worst Of All Time Finals Players due to the fact none of them have ever won an Ayres Medal or Norm Smith?

Interesting conclusion.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Is that right?

So players like Bachar Houli, Dion Prestia, Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt are amongst the long list of Worst Of All Time Finals Players due to the fact none of them have ever won an Ayres Medal or Norm Smith?

Interesting conclusion.

Look at the votes to rank like you do endlessly with Daicos. That’s what they are there for.

Dusty has an 80% BOG rate from 10 finals (100% in GFs) in our flag years based on coaches and NS votes.

Nobody in history has beaten that. The end.

You’d think somebody who freaked out at Pendles great 5 mins in the 2023 GF would understand and appreciate the greatness of that.

 

[The King!]

Would have to think about it

But Ablett is the best in my mind easily.

 

[Catsnlakers]

1.Ablett, 2.Franklin, 3.Judd, 4.Danger, 5.Dusty, 6.Pendlebury, 7.Selwood, 8.Bont, 9.Riewoldt, 10.Fyfe…….If this was asked in another 5 years time I can see Bont being as high as number 3.

 

[RUNVS]

For anyone interested I have created a 21st century mock draft

21st century Mock Draft

So this is my thinking. I am thinking this could be an all encompassing 21st century mock draft. This is we line up every player drafted in the 21st century as an 18 year old, knowing the players they became and we decide who goes where. For the draft order I am thinking the current ladder So...

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[Engimal v3]

Off of the top of my head and without looking at any of the lists already posted:

1. Gary Ablett Jr
2. Lance Franklin
3. Dean Cox
4. Dustin Martin
5. Ben Cousins
6. Adam Goodes
7. Chris Judd
8. Nick Riewoldt
9. Brendan Fevola
10. Matthew Scarlett

Now it's time to go check everyone else's list and realise who I've missed!

 

[Kobe Gryant]

1. GAJ
2. Buddy
3. Judd
4. Goodes
5. Martin
6. Selwood
7. Hodge
8. Pendles
9. Brown
10. Scarlett

Bucks, Cousins, Harvey (x2), Hird, Ricciuto, Tredrea, & Voss miss out due to their footy in the 90s.

A combination of Mitchell, Black, Fyfe, Neale, Dangerfield, Riewoldt (x2), Kennedy, Walker, Rance, Cox, Gawn, Cotchin, Bartel, Johnson, Bontempelli, Rioli, & Swan would probably be the next picked....but could hardly blame anyone if you had them in your top 10.

Too many to choose from, and we've been blessed as supporters to watch these champions go about it.

 

[JD888]

What a pathetic list that doesn’t include any of the Lions big four.

 

[pie chucker]

What an effing pathetic list that doesn’t include any of the Lions big four.

To be fair, it's a list from 2000 and Voss was the best retiring in 2006. You could argue that Simon Black was the one that played mostly in the 2000's and whilst being great, I don't think he's better than any of the top 10 mentioned.

All of the top 10 did their best work in the 2000's

 

[Mister Dog]

1. GAJ
2. Dusty
3. Buddy
4. Pendles
5. Black
6. Goodes
7. Swann
8. Judd
9. Gawn
10. Pavlich

Special mention to Fevola

 

[JackFlash]

Gary Ablett jr

Dustin Martin
Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

36

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

Chris Judd
Matthew Scarlett

Matthew Scarlett

Age

45

Ht

192cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.8

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

0.6

1star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

Adam Goodes
Simon Black
Ben Cousins
Lance Franklin
Joel Selwood

 

[Sttew]

Here's my top 10 and reasons why:

1. Gary Ablett Junior - unquestionably No.1 for me because of his 5 MVP's,8 AA's and dominance over a decade
2. Dusty Martin - just as GAJ's 5 MVP's stamps him No.1, Dusty's 3 NS's elevates him to best finals player
3. Buddy Franklin - the only forward in the 2000's to kick 1000 goals, and possibly the last
4. Chris Judd - a dominant elite footballer for at least six years
5. Michael Voss - triple premiership captain, NS, 2 X MVP, 5 AA...
6. Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

43

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

- arguably best ruckman so fat this century
7. Matthew Scarlett

Matthew Scarlett

Age

45

Ht

192cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.8

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

0.6

1star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

- triple premiership, 6 AA and triple B&F arguably best fullback this century (also named in St Joseph's team of champions!!)
8. Adam Goodes - Mr Versatile
9. Patrick Dangerfield - the most explosive big mid this century with 8 x AA's & 2nd highest Brownlow vote total behind GAJ
10. James Hird

 

[Lunchtime]

Here's my top 10 and reasons why:

1. Gary Ablett Junior - unquestionably No.1 for me because of his 5 MVP's,8 AA's and dominance over a decade
2. Dusty Martin - just as GAJ's 5 MVP's stamps him No.1, Dusty's 3 NS's elevates him to best finals player
3. Buddy Franklin - the only forward in the 2000's to kick 1000 goals, and possibly the last
4. Chris Judd - a dominant elite footballer for at least six years
5. Michael Voss - triple premiership captain, NS, 2 X MVP, 5 AA...
6. Dean Cox - arguably best ruckman so fat this century
7. Matthew Scarlett - triple premiership, 6 AA and triple B&F arguably best fullback this century (also named in St Joseph's team of champions!!)
8. Adam Goodes - Mr Versatile
9. Patrick Dangerfield - the most explosive big mid this century with 8 x AA's & 2nd highest Brownlow vote total behind GAJ
10. James Hird

Well put together this list and you gave reasons too. Good work.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Here's my top 10 and reasons why:

1. Gary Ablett Junior - unquestionably No.1 for me because of his 5 MVP's,8 AA's and dominance over a decade
2. Dusty Martin - just as GAJ's 5 MVP's stamps him No.1, Dusty's 3 NS's elevates him to best finals player
3. Buddy Franklin - the only forward in the 2000's to kick 1000 goals, and possibly the last
4. Chris Judd - a dominant elite footballer for at least six years
5. Michael Voss - triple premiership captain, NS, 2 X MVP, 5 AA...
6. Dean Cox - arguably best ruckman so fat this century
7. Matthew Scarlett - triple premiership, 6 AA and triple B&F arguably best fullback this century (also named in St Joseph's team of champions!!)
8. Adam Goodes - Mr Versatile
9. Patrick Dangerfield - the most explosive big mid this century with 8 x AA's & 2nd highest Brownlow vote total behind GAJ
10. James Hird

Finally a reasonable Cats supporter

 

[TheEscapeClub]

By the way GAS only got 1 B&F and 4 AAs. Bet you rate him pretty highly.

AAs were different for a lot of GAS career, they weren't a yearly thing.

He was a better footballer than anyone who is likely to be on this list, including his son.

 

[Forward Press]

6. Dean Cox - arguably best ruckman so fat this century

Bit harsh, he retired years ago and cannot blame him for letting go a bit.

 

[blaisee]

Except he only got 4 All Australians so he wasn't that good for that long. 4 top quality seasons in a full career is not great.

As jumpers are a Geelong football club participation award

2019 dusty came 6th in Brownlow, got coaches votes in 11 home and away games and didn’t get a jumper

Aa jumpers to rate players is the laziest most pathetic manner in history to judge a career

Tom Stewart has 6, and I just saw an article saying he is on track for 7. It’s a joke