List Mgmt. Trade and F/A - 2017/2018

[dansa]

Equivalent stopping power with better disposal.

and quicker.

 

[Jasper84]

We’re drafting this guy? I do hear he’s magic around goals.

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I still think his greatest trick was landing Claudia Schiffer.

 

[Jasper84]

On what measure?

All of them except for the ability to make the ball travel higher in the air than in length. I mean, Dunn could probably do that also but he has the choice not to.

 

[3rdMan]

Equivalent stopping power with better disposal.

Dunn doesn't have equivalent stopping power to N.Brown, lacks the height and strength. That's becoming less important though and moving the ball from defence more so, which is why I'd agree he is now a better player than Brown.

 

[Scodog10]

You never know how they rate our players, they took Seedsman for a pick many didn't think he was worth for example.

Your or my opinion for that matter of players doesn't always marry up with clubs ratings. If it did we wouldn't have the likes of Blair, Mayne and Oxley masquerading in black and white.

If it married up with our POV we'd have won the past two flags!!

 

[Scodog10]

IF the Rumours are True and we are into Atkins and we get Him.

I doubt we Draft Copperfield as we got 2 similar types in Atkins and Murray

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The magnificence of these two posts can't be undersold!

 

[Apex36]

Dunn doesn't have equivalent stopping power to N.Brown, lacks the height and strength. That's becoming less important though and moving the ball from defence more so, which is why I'd agree he is now a better player than Brown.

Pretty sure that 1v1 Dunn was something like number 2 in the league this year, so I’d say his stopping power is easily as good. He’s shorter but certainly not weaker. One of the strongest guys going around. There’s a reason he was being played on guys like Hawkins this year.

 

[3rdMan]

The reason is because we had no one else and stopping is a lot easier than it was, that's why I say Dunn is now a better player than Brown. A few years ago this wasn't the case. Brown has declined some, but mostly the game has changed.

 

[Soups]

I’m still laughing at Copperfield. Another Dave classic

 

[partypie]

Lets be honest ladies and gents... would it be a trade period without Oxley being offered in an unrealistic trace scenario?

Oxley and Smith to the Lions for that Nadal lookalike kid and their 2018 1st rounder?

 

[Matt_352]

IF the Rumours are True and we are into Atkins and we get Him.

I doubt we Draft Copperfield as we got 2 similar types in Atkins and Murray

Who the F is Copperfield

 

[MagpieJoel]

On what measure?

The measure of being a better player.

 

[sr36]

Who the F is Copperfield

Magical skills. Can make opponents disappear, but disappears too much himself.

 

[partypie]

We’re drafting this guy? I do hear he’s magic around goals.

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We've gone far too long without a magician in the forward line making opposition defenders look silly.

 

[ThePhantom777]

All of them except for the ability to make the ball travel higher in the air than in length. I mean, Dunn could probably do that also but he has the choice not to.

Poy contender

 

[Jasper84]

Dunn doesn't have equivalent stopping power to N.Brown, lacks the height and strength. That's becoming less important though and moving the ball from defence more so, which is why I'd agree he is now a better player than Brown.

Are you sure about Dunn's stopping power?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/19f92b904e197e75ee1db3217122cc1e

 

[Thefly38]

Are you sure about Dunn's stopping power?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/19f92b904e197e75ee1db3217122cc1e

Oh no not another decent pick up by the magpies, perish the thought

 

[soreplums]

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It was mentioned much during the home and away that we were looking at him. Might be a little more than just a rumour.

 

[magpies42]

Or Carlton took Kane Lucas the best available or Talia. There are plenty of examples either way as drafting is not an exact science but we need the tall so we have to take it

Best available for me with pick 6. Irrespective of needs, and that’s what they’ll do.

 

[3rdMan]

Are you sure about Dunn's stopping power?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/19f92b904e197e75ee1db3217122cc1e

Yes. Do you rate Dunn as a better stopper than Rance? Said this a few times, but the game has changed stopping is not what it was.

Stats aren't a great way to measure this, especially on such a small sample size. Some one on one contests are very difficult to win (linking this to my comment that the game has changed, defenders used to be put into these situations far more often) others are very easy, so simple raw numbers aren't very helpful. They cover only a small number of games for Dunn as well, so would be very dependent on who he was playing against.

I don't say he's a bad stopper, I just rate Brown higher. He's the best we've had since Presti. At 192cm Dunn isn't big enough against the monsters. The fact that there are no longer many of these and that it's rare to be put in a clear one on one situation, means this isn't a problem. It's also the reason why N.Brown is no longer as effective as he was, the requirements have changed. Players like Lever are now the prototype.

 

[swoop42]

Who the F is Copperfield

I swear to God you are the Yin to Dave's Yang.

 

[jonbe54]

Leon and Dids weren't bad.

Both great but believe it from an eye witness of his games from the very first - Daicos was not simply a class above he was in a different category.

He was a legend with two crook feet who had to be exiled to the forward line.

But if not for those feet he would have been an all time superstar in the pivot.

Watch some early vision of the marvel playing in the pivot and if you can drag your eyes away from his mastery look at the faces of his opponents - equal parts awe and total despair. If you could watch the coaches box like today's vision you would see what many a pies supporter saw then, opposition coaches tearing their hair out and throwing temper tantrums.

Those of us who got to see him play live were privileged.

 

[Seedsfan]

The argument for best available is that if you nail your pick, you end up with a 15 year player who plays most of his career with a list that looks nothing like our current list - a list with totally different needs, thus you shouldn't draft for immediate needs.

Drafting on a needs bases won us our last flag. We identified in 05 we needed mids and took Pendlebury and Thomas and the next year we identified we needed talls and took Brown and Reid. All four went on to be premiership players. We could have taken the mids again in 06 over the talls but ultimately that would of cost us. It's a necessity we re-build our spine and we have to use pick 6 on the best available KP prospect

 

[Seedsfan]

Don't go all KB on me, Seeds.
The spine in terms of the CHB and CHF doesn't apply. It's more about the right mix of talls etc to suit a plan. If the dominant CHF makes a comeback, we can start talking spines again.
When watching the 76 GF the other night, the spine was definitely in play because kicks from HB were bombed to CHF a lot. Nowadays, with constant run and carry, zig zagging and lateral kicks, more overlap etc, the spine is obsolete.

That must be why Adelaide had the highest scoring forward line for the season because talls are obsolete

 

[Tazzaye]

Pick 19 compensation for Motlop lol system is fkd