List Mgmt. Trade and F/A - Part 3

[Scud2]

How the kittens is the key part of who is paying what not included in the original trade paperwork.

what an absolute s*** show - that the AFL is also complicit in

 

[Quicky]

The Dogs now with a tight salary cap due to Ads contract and retaining Dunkley. The Bont becomes a free agent in 2021. Hmmm......

Devious!

 

[Postpandemicpremiers]

Our response should be Adam who? They bent us over, not our fault if they then tripped over us.

 

[Go Woods]

No.

That sux.

 

[unplugged]

So maybe Ned Guy was just playing dumb after all

 

[Pistol Night]

So maybe Ned Guy was just playing dumb after all

Well he had me well and truely convinced

 

[BEEG]

Sounds like the size of our contribution to Treloar's salary may go to arbitration with the AFL. We'd surely have a strong argument to only be paying a small amount, considering the poor draft picks we received in return. Dogs can't expect to give us a low trade return, plus be contributing a large fraction of his contract. If they wanted a higher salary contribution, they should have offered us a better draft pick hand in return.

Makes no sense to do the deal we did and pay a third of the salary.

Always get an agreement in writing, professional football club should know this, any person running a business should know this.

This whole situation is bizarre.

 

[Lockyer24]

Makes no sense to do the deal we did and pay a third of the salary.

Always get an agreement in writing, professional football club should know this, any business with more then 1 person running it should know this.

This whole situation is bizarre.

It’s not bizarre, it’s true to form for an inept club.

 

[HFF]

Imagine Ned bent them over on this one...
Would be the biggest heel to face turn ever on this board....

 

[BEEG]

Imagine Ned bent them over on this one...
Would be the biggest heel to face turn ever on this board....

Hollywood Ned Guy.

 

[barrackers]

Can anybody tell me how many vacant list spots we currently have given what we know about trades delistings, rookie promotions and the new list limits?

Looks to me that we have outs:

Reid
Varcoe
Scharenberg
Broomhead
Treloar
Atu (rookie)
Stephenson
Phillips
Beams
Appleby
Wills
Dunn (rookie)

Ins

Big fat zero

Promotions from rookie list

Mihocek

So thats nine net exits from the senior list and three from the rookie list (including one promotion)???

Cuts to list sizes
4???

A running list and discussion can be found in this thread.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Imagine Ned bent them over on this one...
Would be the biggest heel to face turn ever on this board....

Could see a moofie, Ned Guy played by Andrew Dice Clay.

"Yeah we fooked ya, ooohhh!!!"

Stage direction: ADC flicks cigarette

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

Could see a moofie, Ned Guy played by Andrew Dice Clay.

"Yeah we fooked ya, ooohhh!!!"

Stage direction: ADC flicks cigarette

Little Miss Muffet sat on her tuffet. Eating her curds and whey,
Along came a spider, who sat down beside her and said "Hey, what's in the bowl bitch?
Only 50k!

 

[jc37]

They effectively got Treloar for nothing. The points are equivalent of pick 36 extra. a 2nd rounder same as we sold trealor for. AFL questioned an Adelaide/Saints deal. Dogs cant expect to screw us over even more it is bad enough as it is already. Love to see them lose picks for breaching the salary cap even better if we could sign Bontemptelli. Doubt neither club should deal with each other after this debacle.

 

[cityslick1]

Langdon is from a wealthy family. He isn't in this for the money. he has plenty of it.

silly comment imo. So thats why his manager used Swans as leverage is it, to get $600k a year out of us... instead of something far less.

how do you think wealthy families become wealthy? & also I doubt that his family would say "forget about your contracted salary, we'll just buy you that house instead..."

 

[cityslick1]

His whole article makes very little sense. He talks at one time of us paying $300k a year and then says something weird about the stand off being as much as $200k in one of the seasons. How can those 2 things co-exist?

They expect us to pay $300k of his salary in the final year... we expect to pay $100k... there's your $200k gap.

 

[cityslick1]

It’s not bizarre, it’s true to form for an inept club.

His manager needs to come into this to confirm what the deal is. As part of the trade, said agent needs to be in agreement & 100% happy with the 'new agreement' his player is getting into. ie how much his new employer is due to pay him, in conjunction with how how much his old employer will continue to pay him.

If this wasnt agreed and made crystal clear at the time of the deal, his agent hasn't shown the proper duty of care to his client. The 'we'll sort it out later' line shouldnt cut it, and was maybe more focussed on managing the media & protecting his client's credibility, rather than getting all of the terms in order.

 

[AndrewShawble]

Imagine Ned bent them over on this one...
Would be the biggest heel to face turn ever on this board....

Not quite

we still have nothing to show for 5 years of 1st round picks

And a salary cap issue that should never have been.

 

[Matt_352]

To the Dogs for lowballing us in trade:

 

[Crazy Tails]

Sounds like Cam McCarthy will be playing WAFL next year.

AFL free agency whispers: Heath Shaw’s future firms, update on Fremantle pair

Free agency whispers: 325-game veteran running out of options; axed star fights for AFL future

www.foxsports.com.au

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[KrispyKremePie]

Imagine Ned bent them over on this one...
Would be the biggest heel to face turn ever on this board....

Ned needs a win!


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[Dead Eye Didak]

This would not be a small win, it would be a big loss.

If it ever actually turns out that we are backing away from a commitment we made in good faith then that is disgraceful, and would probably need to spell the end of those involved.

Whatever happens, we need to rebuild the values of our club from a position of integrity, and if we end up high fiving each other because we've 'shafted' the Bulldogs, I'd be pretty fed up.

I really hope we can come out of this with both sides agreeing that whatever the terms are are true to the original understood intent.

Doesn't sound like to me there was any commitment by us to pay a definite amount, until the clubs knew the revised TPP available to the clubs.
The Dogs issue is that they have traded in AT and his contract on a presumption that we will pay $300k a season.
If the Pies are required to pay $300k a year, then the Dogs should return one or both of the second round picks they screwed out of us.
Let's not forget in the initial trade, the Dogs got the lottery.

 

[partypie]

It’s not bizarre, it’s true to form for an inept club.

Which one? There's two clubs dancing this Tango.

 

[Scodog10]

It’s not bizarre, it’s true to form for an inept club.

Prior to this I wouldn’t have used that language toward the dogs, but boy did they screw the pooch here...

 

[MagpieJoel]

Ed just said on radio that it would get sorted.

Collingwood was willing to pay more if they got a good deal. We didn't, so we won't pay as much.

The Dogs can piss off. Either do a decent deal to begin with, and we pay more. Or you do what you did, and expect less.