List Mgmt. Trade and F/A - Part 3

[Masked Magician]

Would Richmond do the following deal:

Collingwood send: pick 34 + Future 3rd

Richmond send: pick 40 44 and future 3rd

I assume our best chance of getting those picks off them is if they intend to only draft 5 players in the national draft. They also get an assumed upgrade on their 3rd round position in 2022.

Is this too far fetched or a reasonably fair deal for both parties?
And this probably only works if we get word Daicos isn't bid on at 1?

Collingwood

34, 39, 41, 45

Richmond

7, 16, 26, 28, 40, 44

Draft value index

ROUND ONE	ROUND TWO	ROUND THREE	ROUND FOUR	ROUND FIVE
Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​
1. 3000	19. 948	37. 483	55. 207	73. 9
2. 2517	20. 912	38. 465	56. 194	74. -
3. 2234	21. 878	39. 446	57. 182
4. 2034	22. 845	40. 429	58. 170
5. 1878	23. 815	41. 412	59. 158
6. 1751	24. 785	42. 395	60. 146
7. 1644	25. 756	43. 378	61. 135
8. 1551	26. 729	44. 362	62. 123
9. 1469	27. 703	45. 347	63. 112
10. 1395	28. 677	46. 331	64. 101
11. 1329	29. 653	47. 316	65. 90
12. 1268	30. 629	48. 302	66. 80
13. 1212	31. 606	49. 287	67. 69
14. 1161	32. 584	50. 273	68. 59
15. 1112	33. 563	51. 259	69. 49
16. 1067	34. 542	52. 246	70. 39
17. 1025	35. 522	53. 233	71. 29
18. 985	36. 502	54. 220	72. 19

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Would Richmond do the following deal:

Collingwood send: pick 34 + Future 3rd

Richmond send: pick 40 44 and future 3rd

I assume our best chance of getting those picks off them is if they intend to only draft 5 players in the national draft. They also get an assumed upgrade on their 3rd round position in 2022.

Is this too far fetched or a reasonably fair deal for both parties?
And this probably only works if we get word Daicos isn't bid on at 1?

Collingwood

34, 39, 41, 45

Richmond

7, 16, 26, 28, 40, 44

Draft value index

ROUND ONE	ROUND TWO	ROUND THREE	ROUND FOUR	ROUND FIVE
Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​
1. 3000	19. 948	37. 483	55. 207	73. 9
2. 2517	20. 912	38. 465	56. 194	74. -
3. 2234	21. 878	39. 446	57. 182
4. 2034	22. 845	40. 429	58. 170
5. 1878	23. 815	41. 412	59. 158
6. 1751	24. 785	42. 395	60. 146
7. 1644	25. 756	43. 378	61. 135
8. 1551	26. 729	44. 362	62. 123
9. 1469	27. 703	45. 347	63. 112
10. 1395	28. 677	46. 331	64. 101
11. 1329	29. 653	47. 316	65. 90
12. 1268	30. 629	48. 302	66. 80
13. 1212	31. 606	49. 287	67. 69
14. 1161	32. 584	50. 273	68. 59
15. 1112	33. 563	51. 259	69. 49
16. 1067	34. 542	52. 246	70. 39
17. 1025	35. 522	53. 233	71. 29
18. 985	36. 502	54. 220	72. 19

Why would a future third need to come into the equation at all?

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[Masked Magician]

Why would a future third need to come into the equation at all?

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Purely a points difference exercise.

We are giving 542 and getting 791 so to balance the trade off purely points wise we can offer our future 4th rounder which will make up the 200 odd point difference (less value IMO) or swap future 3rds which could likely round off the difference if we finish bottom 6 and they finish inside the 8

 

[partypie]

Purely a points difference exercise.

We are giving 542 and getting 791 so to balance the trade off purely points wise we can offer our future 4th rounder which will make up the 200 odd point difference (less value IMO) or swap future 3rds which could likely round off the difference if we finish bottom 6 and they finish inside the 8

You wouldn't necessarily need to balance out the trade points-wise if Richmond need to shed a pick as you are proposing...

 

[inxs88]

Ad's looks like he is suffering from his hammies. He had no explosive run, and appeared to be in jogging mode last night. I can see why the Pies looked to move on his contract, as the hammies are always a concern, and he was starting to miss chunks of seasons in the last couple of years with us. He missed a chunk of this season too with the Doggies.
Stevo, well what can you say. The betting scandal was the same thing, wasn't sure if he should let anyone know, despite knowing it was the wrong thing to do. Now trying to hide his injury from the club that he is employed by, seems to show a pattern of behaviour.
Flipper was good for the Hawks this year, and will probably finish top 10 in their B & F. Just a good honest footballer is Flipper...

Like an annoying girlfriend you want to dump gently, we tried the "it's not you Adam it's us...." When that didn't work we went straight to gaslighting mode.

 

[ClaytonM]

Rubbish. Just cause a player has a ‘pregnant wife’ doesn’t mean they get to call the shots where they want to play and how much for. Players have too much power as it is.

Yeah how dare someone have the right to choose where they live. How dare a father to be decide what is important to him and make a career choice that puts family first.

 

[ClaytonM]

You wonder why they moved in the first place. only there 2 or 3 years.

Was Ross Lyon still at Freo at the time?

 

[gouki88]

Yeah how dare someone have the right to choose where they live. How dare a father to be decide what is important to him and make a career choice that puts family first.

Given he signed a 5 year contract I think expecting him to see out said contract isn't unreasonable.

And don't get it wrong, this is a money move just as much as a family one.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Treloar to the Lions could have been a possibility this year. Hahaha.

Qld team & a chance of a premiership.

 

[unplugged]

Wish there as an accessible list of which company/manager manages which player. Would make it a lot easier in the trade period when you're trying to cherry pick which interview to listen to

Anyone wanna build a database?

 

[whiskeytown]

Wish there as an accessible list of which company/manager manages which player. Would make it a lot easier in the trade period when you're trying to cherry pick which interview to listen to

Anyone wanna build a database?

They are all managed by differing incarnations of Scrooge McDuck.

 

[JLC]

It's a bit different in that Neale has a young family and pregnant wife, will create a huge negative backlash if they deny that as oppose to a young kid who just wants more opportunity.

Seem that Lachie has pulled the old front ended contract trick

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

You wonder why they moved in the first place. only there 2 or 3 years.

Interesting to see how the remaining two years of his contract is sorted out, between the two clubs. He is on $750k a year, l wonder who picks up that tab? If Fremantle take majority , financial wise, of the remaining years in his contract, that may give them leverage in what they may have hand over in terms of draft picks....

 

[Rusty Beam]

Wonder how Fly and Leppa view the potential acquisition of Stengle?

I’m super keen on us grabbing him given what he offers and the gaping crumbing hole we still have on our list.

But I think whether or not we take him now will be very enlightening.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Wonder how Fly and Leppa view the potential acquisition of Stengle?

I’m super keen on us grabbing him given what he offers and the gaping crumbing hole we still have on our list.

But I think whether or not we take him now will be very enlightening.

Both of them would have insight into Tyson from his two years at Richmond. With our limited draft hand and the need to be a bit creative to get talent in this offseason, he'd be incredibly difficult to pass up.

 

[jonmacTrag]

Both of them would have insight into Tyson from his two years at Richmond. With our limited draft hand and the need to be a bit creative to get talent in this offseason, he'd be incredibly difficult to pass up.

Agreed and with the coaches having first hand knowledge they would likely back themselves in to turn him around.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Wonder how Fly and Leppa view the potential acquisition of Stengle?

I’m super keen on us grabbing him given what he offers and the gaping crumbing hole we still have on our list.

But I think whether or not we take him now will be very enlightening.

Why did he leave Richmond in the first place?

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Wonder how Fly and Leppa view the potential acquisition of Stengle?

I’m super keen on us grabbing him given what he offers and the gaping crumbing hole we still have on our list.

But I think whether or not we take him now will be very enlightening.

I see he is listed as retired on the Crows delistings....

 

[Mkcaptain]

Why did he leave Richmond in the first place?

Requested a trade for opportunity. Richmond had a 2 year deal on the table apparently

 

[unplugged]

Would Richmond do the following deal:

Collingwood send: pick 34 + Future 3rd

Richmond send: pick 40 44 and future 3rd

I assume our best chance of getting those picks off them is if they intend to only draft 5 players in the national draft. They also get an assumed upgrade on their 3rd round position in 2022.

Is this too far fetched or a reasonably fair deal for both parties?
And this probably only works if we get word Daicos isn't bid on at 1?

Collingwood

34, 39, 41, 45

Richmond

7, 16, 26, 28, 40, 44

Draft value index

Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​	Pick/Pts​
ROUND ONE	ROUND TWO	ROUND THREE	ROUND FOUR	ROUND FIVE
1. 3000	19. 948	37. 483	55. 207	73. 9
2. 2517	20. 912	38. 465	56. 194	74. -
3. 2234	21. 878	39. 446	57. 182
4. 2034	22. 845	40. 429	58. 170
5. 1878	23. 815	41. 412	59. 158
6. 1751	24. 785	42. 395	60. 146
7. 1644	25. 756	43. 378	61. 135
8. 1551	26. 729	44. 362	62. 123
9. 1469	27. 703	45. 347	63. 112
10. 1395	28. 677	46. 331	64. 101
11. 1329	29. 653	47. 316	65. 90
12. 1268	30. 629	48. 302	66. 80
13. 1212	31. 606	49. 287	67. 69
14. 1161	32. 584	50. 273	68. 59
15. 1112	33. 563	51. 259	69. 49
16. 1067	34. 542	52. 246	70. 39
17. 1025	35. 522	53. 233	71. 29
18. 985	36. 502	54. 220	72. 19

Correct way of thinking, I think this is the sort of thing we'll look to do between the trade period and draft night, or on draft night itself. It'll also depend on what we're hearing as to who's going to bid on Daicos.

 

[neilk]

Both of them would have insight into Tyson from his two years at Richmond. With our limited draft hand and the need to be a bit creative to get talent in this offseason, he'd be incredibly difficult to pass up.

We already passed on him in the MSD.

 

[sr36]

You wonder why they moved in the first place. only there 2 or 3 years.

If someone moved on after 3 years, would you bat an eyelid in any other profession?

 

[Crazy Tails]

Requested a trade for opportunity. Richmond had a 2 year deal on the table apparently

That's quite ironic then isn't it; left for opportunity then once he got it at Adelaide he stuffed it up with stupid off field crap.

 

[ride56]

Treloar was bizarre last night. It looked like his head was not in the game.

On a few occasions he ran past the player with a mark/ free kick and at Collingwood he would automatically receive the ball. Whereas the Dogs players ignored him and took their kick lol He seemed to lack urgency, even when the ball was close by. Honestly, reminded me of Grundy (although Treloars top speed would be significantly higher) the way he plodded along.

I honestly think the Dogs thought Dunkley was going to leave and got spooked. Treloar is surplus to their requirements and does not have the ability to play up forward.

Kudos to Buckley for selecting the right players to move on.

Treloar was a liability, looked really out of place

 

[Jasper84]

If someone moved on after 3 years, would you bat an eyelid in any other profession?

Probably not, but most professions don't have front loaded contracts. It's more an eyebrow raise than an eyelid bat.