Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Smiley Boy]

Any reason why we are suggesting Richards here? or is that because of his family name and nothing else?

It's because he's got red hair

 

[SayerTheCreator]

Coniglio or Martin said no?

Coniglio

 

[SayerTheCreator]

Actually I think someone did, I think you're right. Our 1st + Williams for Florent would be a good result for both clubs i think

That's a shocking deal for us

 

[Virgin Dog]

That's a shocking deal for us

What do you think Williams is worth? We'd be lucky to get a late second for him to be honest. A pick in the 40s or 50s is probably best we can ask for. I'm also assuming our 1st lands around 13-14. Maybe we could ask for a little something on the way back, but I don't imagine Williams would serve as much more than steak knives in any trade unfortunately

 

[SayerTheCreator]

What do you think Williams is worth? We'd be lucky to get a late second for him to be honest. A pick in the 40s or 50s is probably best we can ask for. I'm also assuming our 1st lands around 13-14. Maybe we could ask for a little something on the way back, but I don't imagine Williams would serve as much more than steak knives in any trade unfortunately

I know Williams currently holds little trade value but his potential needs to be factored in.

Florent is a largely unproven talent who's stats for a small fwd don't get anywhere near a first

 

[Smiley Boy]

I know Williams currently holds little trade value but his potential needs to be factored in.

Florent is a largely unproven talent who's stats for a small fwd don't get anywhere near a first

Agreed our first is ridiculous considering they're not that different to what they've both achieved

A straight swap would make more sense IMO

 

[True Dog]

Any reason why we are suggesting Richards here? or is that because of his family name and nothing else?

Kids upside is through the roof. Have no idea why his name is being mentioned

 

[Virgin Dog]

Kids upside is through the roof. Have no idea why his name is being mentioned

Go back and actually read the thread. No one ever mentioned him being traded, simply used him as a comparison to Florent for value. You're getting triggered over literally nothing

 

[dogspur]

Florent is a largely unproven talent who's stats for a small fwd don't get anywhere near a first

except he's not a small forward.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

except he's not a small forward.

Maybe not predominantly now but that's where he started and he does spend time down there

 

[darthbards]

Unless we get a really high quality level KPD we haven’t succeeded this offseason.

Keath just has to be done. Tippa and Martin are at best slight upgrades on what we already have. Keath is a significant upgrade on Cordy.

I wouldn't mind getting Keath,but we don't have to succeed during the off season.
Off season success is for avid reader of the game to get rheir jollies over,the season is for footy fans.
Don't get me wrong,the off season is a bit of fun,but we have a strong list,and even if we bring no one in we are still we poised for onfield success.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

I wouldn't mind getting Keath,but we don't have to succeed during the off season.
Off season success is for avid reader of the game to get rheir jollies over,the season is for footy fans.
Don't get me wrong,the off season is a bit of fun,but we have a strong list,and even if we bring no one in we are still we poised for onfield success.

To take that next step into being a top 4 side we need improvement in the KPD spot(s).

 

[Anja_Nees]

Ben McKay is a terrible footballer. Have watched him closely at Werribee for a few years and he is lazy and lacks intensity.
This guy is the perfect size for AFL and was probably too big and strong for everyone as a junior, coupled with an older brother who can play, which was the reason he was a high selection in his draft year.
Seriously, this guy makes Trent Barret look like Chris Grant.
If North can get anything more than a 4th rounder for him, they will take it and run.
DO NOT WANT !

Well his brother is actually his twin and they were taken in the same draft, but yes there seems to be a discrepancy in talent or application.

 

[go the dogs]

i would happily offer Moore 4-4.5 mill for 5 years if passes thorough Medical. If we got 20 games out of him every year we would be odds on to finish top 4 every year of that deal.
I would then offer Martin 4 years at 2-2.4 mill and possibly isaac Smith 3 years at 1.2 mill. That is my ideal off season add those 3 and we are just about favourites the next 3 years.

Outs.
Boyd - Retired
Picken - Retired
Morris - Retired (Rookie If needed)
Roberts - Delisted
Webb -Delisted
Gardiner - Delisted
Williams - Traded.

Ins
Moore
Martin
Smith
3-4 picks.

Team for 2020 onwards.

Wood Young Crozier
JJ Moore Daniel
Hunter Bont I Smith (richards)
Martin Schache Mclean
Dickson(west) Naughton Dale
English Dunklet Macrae

Libba Duryea LLoyd Lipinski

Extras.
Suckling Wallis Trengove Cordy Hayes

That side looks wonderful on paper and still pretty young. We would maybe need to play a Trengove off the bench as an extra tall cover but that team is scary good.

 

[dogspur]

Webb -Delisted

no thanks.

 

[darthbards]

To take that next step into being a top 4 side we need improvement in the KPD spot(s).

I agree a KPD would be great,some shiny new toys anywhere on the park would be exciting.
I don't agree we can't continue to improve and become a top 4 side with what we have.

 

[Sharkey66]

Whilst I do lament the big names we always seem to miss out on, can't argue against the good service we are getting out of Croz, Duryea, Lloyd and of course Trengove.

Croz and Duryea really help to stabilise a backline looking for its next great key backmen.

Just need that key back now.

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Not to mention Naughton, Richards, Baz and even English, any of which we may have missed out onhad we landed a big name.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

no thanks.

Has shown he's not up to it at AFL level through many opportunities. Thrown in a neck injury and what is the point of keeping him?

 

[Northernsoul74]

Coniglio or Martin said no?

Coniglio although I think the rumour started on Facebook so I wouldn’t read much into it.

 

[dogspur]

Has shown he's not up to it at AFL level through many opportunities. Thrown in a neck injury and what is the point of keeping him?

Because he's had some great performances in the VFL after that injury.

We've put 4 years of development into him, and he's only failed to play games this year due to some really bad luck. I'd much rather retain him than pick up some long-shot spud on the rookie list.

 

[Brian Perrin]

With JJ, Crozier, Duryea, Suckling, Richards and possibly Williams, could Caleb be traded for value and if so what would you want (please don’t use this as a tool to transfer the CD winning/losing percentage argument here)?


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[Bro_Pro]

With JJ, Crozier, Duryea, Suckling, Richards and possibly Williams, could Caleb be traded for value and if so what would you want (please don’t use this as a tool to transfer the CD winning/losing percentage argument here)?


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If this did happen do you think it would be one of the SA clubs..?

 

[Northernsoul74]

Because he's had some great performances in the VFL after that injury.

We've put 4 years of development into him, and he's only failed to play games this year due to some really bad luck. I'd much rather retain him than pick up some long-shot spud on the rookie list.

He might want to move on for a better opportunity.

 

[Brian Perrin]

If this did happen do you think it would be one of the SA clubs..?

Part/full payment for Keath?


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[Virgin Dog]

Part/full payment for Keath?


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Caleb is easily worth more than Keath. Doubt the club would ever entertain a trade of Caleb, but if they did, there'd be more than just Keath coming our way