Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Munnez]

Witts Captain and very unlikely anyway
ROB signed for 4 years this year cross him out
Pittonet contracted til ‘23, De Koning not ready - unlikely
Lobb - surely not
Nank - contracted til ‘24 cross him out
Naismith is cooked

Any others that fit the bill? Gotta be Soldo

Edit: Pittonet out of contract actually he never signed, interesting he could definitely be another one. He’s still pretty young too and not the worst, would probably still rather better though but he’d do the job. Just goes to show when you look at these guys Ruckmen do not come good until 25. Timmy & Sweet have shown plenty

For those bigger guys it takes time to build the core strength to hold your own in the ruck contest. I'm pretty sure it is around 26 that athletic performance reaches its peak capacity

 

[dergert]

I'll spew if it is Rory Lobb

7

Rory Lobb

Age

31

Ht

207cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

11.3

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

 

[TedDougChris]

I'll spew if it is Rory Lobb

Isn't and hasn't ever been a ruckman. No point bringing in anyone who has the exact same weaknesses as English....

 

[Here we go dogs]

Toby Greene is dual All Australian & Taylor Walker is the all time leading goal kicker for the crows just because they’re not premiership players doesn’t make them unsuccessful in their careers..

With that logic Gary Ablett & Tony Lockett are both unsuccessful players?

Missed the point. The poster suggested they couldn’t care about bringing in a dickhead if it bring the club success.

I believe having a strong culture is more likely to bring us team success than a star studded list with potentially divisive figures amongst the playing group.

Considering 4/5 players mentioned have never experienced the ultimate team success, it seems a pretty good indication that bringing in those individuals that are ‘potentially ‘ dickheads may hinder rather than enable the opportunity for team success.

I am not old enough to have watched Ablett senior or Lockett, but considering the stories (Ablett’s drug abuse and Lockett’s priority of kicking more goals that dunstall than his side winning) suggests to me that those individual valued their own success over that of the teams, which are the sort of attitudes that possibly prevented their club achieving premiership success.

 

[Chalky White]

Of the 5 players you mentioned, only 1 is a premiership player - not sure you can link them to being successful.

Nathan Buckley didn't win one either. I believe 4/5 played in GFs. Maybe Stack hasn't. Doug Hawkins, Chris Grant, Scott West, Brad Johnson didn't either. Must've Benn poo players.

 

[Chalky White]

Missed the point. The poster suggested they couldn’t care about bringing in a dickhead if it bring the club success.

I believe having a strong culture is more likely to bring us team success than a star studded list with potentially divisive figures amongst the playing group.

Considering 4/5 players mentioned have never experienced the ultimate team success, it seems a pretty good indication that bringing in those individuals that are ‘potentially ‘ dickheads may hinder rather than enable the opportunity for team success.

I am not old enough to have watched Ablett senior or Lockett, but considering the stories (Ablett’s drug abuse and Lockett’s priority of kicking more goals that dunstall than his side winning) suggests to me that those individual valued their own success over that of the teams, which are the sort of attitudes that possibly prevented their club achieving premiership success.

Not sure on your ridiculous statement about Lockett. He was in no way selfish, he just took responsibility to kick goals.
I saw him play and he was a genius

 

[Mofra]

Not sold on soldo

Ditto. I think he's a good ruck at hit outs but not sure of his ground/follow up work (on limited viewing).

 

[Northernsoul74]

Ditto. I think he's a good ruck at hit outs but not sure of his ground/follow up work (on limited viewing).

A serious knee isn’t going to help in this regard.

 

[LittleG]

Ditto. I think he's a good ruck at hit outs but not sure of his ground/follow up work (on limited viewing).

He isn’t mobile and IF Bevo wouldn’t play BTC, I don’t know why we are getting Soldo.
He is superb at hitouts though.

 

[ScragCity]

Pittonet would be an excellent pick up. He's definitely the type Bevo would love.

 

[VitalDread]

Dogs to take the piss and get Grundy

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Dogs to take the piss and get Grundy

We're relying on you to be serious with this one, VD!

 

[Struggle]

A serious knee isn’t going to help in this regard.

We don't have a great history with players returning from a knee injury either. Hard pass on Soldo

 

[Growlin woof]

So non finals injured rucks include
Witts, ROB, Pittonet, Lobb(more fwd), Soldo, Nank,Naismith.

What about mason cox? Wasn’t he injured and played ruck previous ?

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I agree with your last paragraph. What I am saying is it's NOT up to us here to say who is or isn't suitable for recruitment.
I also agree hall off field at Sydney was pretty good. He wasn't at St Kilda....I know this for certain.
Sydney with good leadership and direction turned Baz around into a super reliable player. He had a few misdemeanours onfield but generally in his case it was retaliation for niggling tactics.
What I don't agree with is casting aspersions on Ladhams on rumours. He had an incident last year in lockdown, big deal. I believe he is EXACTLY the type of player we need.

Barry Hall use to drink in the Broadford pub the night before a game, when he was with the Saints.

 

[Ash1337]

Pretty sure Ryder was also injured at the end of the season too.

 

[ScottyDogg]

Can someone please update me on this game of guess who? I missed the initial post by RedWhite&Blue and it looks like it has been deleted now. They were spot on with their Bruce mail a few years back, so trust it’s good sauce.

 

[hatescaptcha]

Rather we keep developing Young in the ruck role.


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[LittleG]

Rather we keep developing Young in the ruck role.


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He really needs some more old fashioned campaigner.

 

[Northernsoul74]

What about mason cox? Wasn’t he injured and played ruck previous ?

Think he was just dropped.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Can someone please update me on this game of guess who? I missed the initial post by RedWhite&Blue and it looks like it has been deleted now. They were spot on with their Bruce mail a few years back, so trust it’s good sauce.

If its deleted probably not worth speculating until he returns with something firmer.

 

[Munnez]

Dogs to take the piss and get Grundy

Isnt Heath Grundy retired?

 

[dergert]

Pittonet wouldnt be the worst acquisition.

 

[Smiley Boy]

Why would Carlton let go of Pittonet? LOL

 

[LittleG]

Why would Carlton let go of Pittonet? LOL

Only one reason:
Carlton