Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[dergert]

This from The Age. Disturbingly it also says we are considering 30 and a future 2nd for Lobb and a late pick.

The Western Bulldogs and Brisbane Lions have not advanced talks on a trade for Josh Dunkley with the Lions offering pick 21 and their future first-round pick, but want pick 39 this year back so they can recover some points needed for father-son selections Will Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher.

The Bulldogs won’t hand over 39 and want the Lions to add later picks to the pick 21 and future first-rounder that is on the table.

That's a shit house deal in itself.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Sam Power could always throw in a threat to put in a bid on Fletcher at pick 11 to take the Bears into points deficit next year.

Let’s call it the Putin option.

Not even a threat, a promise. More than that, actively working with North (you like Dunkley, Clarko? Yeah? Great, want to work with us to screw the Bears?) to bid on Fletcher at 2 after the Plastics bid on Ashcroft at 1.

Not so funny now is it, Bears?

 

[gangsta deluxe]

I don’t get obsession with “sending a message”. The only people I hear saying sending a message is important are fans. The next player that wants to leave the dogs won’t give a s**t about some imaginary message Sam sent this year. Having an extra 1st round draft pick next year is far more important.

They’ll give a shit about the very real chance they won’t get to their destination, and opposition clubs will give a shit about it too. They’ll know they can’t bend us over and won’t try it.

This has absolutely nothing to do with fans.

 

[glenashley]

I think this goes to mediation before PSD.

 

[LittleG]

I think this goes to mediation before PSD.

The thing with mediation is that you must first agree that the player will change clubs and that the mediators decision is final.

That means, you have to accept the deal tabled by the mediator.

 

[TiAn_]

The thing with mediation is that you must first agree that the player will change clubs and that the mediators decision is final.

That means, you have to accept the deal tabled by the mediator.

Nah, that’s arbitration. Mediation requires the parties to agree.

 

[cherrypie]

The thing with mediation is that you must first agree that the player will change clubs and that the mediators decision is final.

That means, you have to accept the deal tabled by the mediator.

Would the mediator factor in Brisbane’s other needs re: points or just do exactly what’s fair for Dunkley?

 

[LittleG]

Would the mediator factor in Brisbane’s other needs re: points or just do exactly what’s fair for Dunkley?

We don’t know. AFL puts someone in place to complete the trade.

 

[LittleG]

Nah, that’s arbitration. Mediation requires the parties to agree.

Not in the AFL system.

 

[glenashley]

The thing with mediation is that you must first agree that the player will change clubs and that the mediators decision is final.

That means, you have to accept the deal tabled by the mediator.

I suppose I'm hopeful that the mediator tells Bears to pull their heads in?

 

[Smiley Boy]

Lobb for next years second and 39 is fine IMO maybe get a 4th rounder or something back too.. instantly changes our side for the better though and gives a massive chop out for Tim

 

[True Dog]

Lobb needs to start making some noise like trade me or you can pay me to play for Sth Fremantle or I'll just cause trouble in the dressing room etc... or spend the year injured? Surely his manager can be a w***er like Pickers?

 

[TiAn_]

Not in the AFL system.

Last time teams mediated over a trade it was Bombers and Power over Ryder and there was no deal struck in mediation. They eventually agreed to a deal though, think it was the following day.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Not in the AFL system.

Can we refuse mediation or is it shoved up us by AFL House?

 

[Northernsoul74]

Not in the AFL system.

Really? I just assumed it was a third party who tried to broker a deal and bring a neutral/fair perspective to the value. I had no idea it was binding.

 

[Munnez]

Geelong get pick 7 and Bowes for a future 3rd.

Sickening.

And the systems not broken BS

 

[True Dog]

Time to show them what you're packing Sammy!!

 

[Mofra]

This from The Age. Disturbingly it also says we are considering 30 and a future 2nd for Lobb and a late pick.

TBH I'd rather do that than hand over pick 21 for Lobb.

 

[Mofra]

Lobb needs to start making some noise like trade me or you can pay me to play for Sth Fremantle or I'll just cause trouble in the dressing room etc... or spend the year injured? Surely his manager can be a w***er like Pickers?

Colin Young - seems to be in some sort of open warfare with the Freo administration.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

TBH I'd rather do that than hand over pick 21 for Lobb.

100% also

 

[dergert]

The good guys!

 

[doggies ftw]

The good guys!

Using your own bargain deal in your favour as a measuring point for underpaying in your current deal is a big brain move by the cats

 

[cherrypie]

Using your own bargain deal in your favour as a measuring point for underpaying in your current deal is a big brain move by the cats

They’ll soon offer their future fourth for Dunkley and Pick 11

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Lobb needs to start making some noise like trade me or you can pay me to play for Sth Fremantle or I'll just cause trouble in the dressing room etc... or spend the year injured? Surely his manager can be a w***er like Pickers?

I don’t think I’d be using Pickering’s technique as a template for how to be a successful manager.

 

[Iamspock]

The good guys!

Yes, what an absolute load of tripe, that Brisbane are doing all the compromising, so that the Bulldogs don't miss out.... If they hadn't arrogantly traded out pick 15 in the first place, the deal probably would have got done. More attention needs to be given to the shizenhauzen 'player managing' that Prickering seems to indulge in as well. Take Dunkley to the PSD...then Prickering can really squirm and explain himself.