Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Anja_Nees]

Keath was good in his games this year but we have JOD, Buss and Croft coming through with others for depth. Time to move on.

 

[DueWest]

Keath was good in his games this year but we have JOD, Buss and Croft coming through with others for depth. Time to move on.

Keath is a better back up than Gardiner but the unfortunate thing for Keath is Gardiner is contracted until 2026

 

[Anja_Nees]

Keath is a better back up than Gardiner but the unfortunate thing for Keath is Gardiner is contracted until 2026

That’s true but being fair to Gardy he also has the advantage of being a lot younger.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Thinking our outs will be:

• Bedendo
• Cleary
• Keath (retire)
• Smith (trade)
• Macrae (trade)

 

[Doggy]

Thinking our outs will be:

• Bedendo
• Cleary
• Keath (retire)
• Smith (trade)
• Macrae (trade)

Cleary is contracted...

 

[Walsh Bay]

So no one thinks we'll try to find a way to get Artie off the list?

Watching him closely today. Come on.

 

[dergert]

Luke Cleary is contracted until next year

 

[iambrilliant]

Luke Cleary is contracted until next year

I’d like to see him get a run of games playing in duryea spot

 

[The City Boyz]

So no one thinks we'll try to find a way to get Artie off the list?

Watching him closely today. Come on.

I couldn’t believe the bagging for Cleary and Clarke on the game day thread yet Artie escaped scrutiny completely

He was worst on besides Bedendo

 

[Ash1337]

Keath JJ Bedendo Rypstra del/ret & Macrae Smith trade

I know people here was JJ to go again next year but his body cant hold up in AFL anymore.

Clarke 1 year.

 

[Dogsman16]

Peatling looking alright!

 

[dergert]

Peatling looking alright!

GWS will have his deal tied up by the end of tonight

 

[cherrypie]

Trade: Macrae, Smith
Retire: JJ, Keath
Delist: Bedendo

Think we’ll give Clarke another year but I seriously don’t see it with him. Fumbles, poor skills and not a great decision maker. He’s able to consistently score in VFL but his mistakes at AFL level would be punished severely.

There’s a whole bunch that I wouldn’t care too much if we lost - Baker, Gardner, Scott, Cleary, Poulter. Not necessarily bad players but I can’t see them being AFL Best 22 long-term

 

[doggy_dog]

Suspect it will be unpopular here but I wouldn’t be against paying Cleary out. Just not going to make it IMO

 

[Golden_6]

Suspect it will be unpopular here but I wouldn’t be against paying Cleary out. Just not going to make it IMO

About as much of a waste of a list spot as you can get.

 

[weltschmerz]

About as much of a waste of a list spot as you can get.

Bit too reminiscent of Louis Butler

 

[bulldogs54]

Trade: Macrae, Smith
Retire: JJ, Keath
Delist: Bedendo

Think we’ll give Clarke another year but I seriously don’t see it with him. Fumbles, poor skills and not a great decision maker. He’s able to consistently score in VFL but his mistakes at AFL level would be punished severely.

There’s a whole bunch that I wouldn’t care too much if we lost - Baker, Gardner, Scott, Cleary, Poulter. Not necessarily bad players but I can’t see them being AFL Best 22 long-term

Agree with most of this. Perhaps JJ gets another year?
What a lot of people keep forgetting is O'Driscoll is one in the retirements list also.
Most probably 5 or 6 changes this off season as others are still contracted until end of next year or beyond.

 

[weltschmerz]

What a lot of people keep forgetting is O'Driscoll is one in the retirements list also.

We did replace him with Rypstra though.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

We did replace him with Rypstra though.

Mid season picks are on the rookie list, I think, which would be a difference

Is Rypstra staying on? Would be a little uncharacteristic for us to only give a guy six months

 

[bulldogs54]

We did replace him with Rypstra though.

From memory Rypstra a rookie listed player taken in the mid season Rookie draft.
O'Driscoll a senior listed player taken in national draft.
Pretty sure O'Driscoll being taken off the senior list counts toward our end of season changes

 

[Testekill]

Suspect it will be unpopular here but I wouldn’t be against paying Cleary out. Just not going to make it IMO

Yeah at this point I don't see it at all, if he ends up making it then it's a very long shot.

 

[BLACAE]

If the power lied with me, this is how I'd go.

Trade:
Smith
Macrae

Delist:
Keath
Bedendo
Clarke
VDM (paid out)
JJ

Rookie:
Rypstra

I would then go to the draft with any R1 and 2 picks, and then get hard-headed mature aged players. The type that would run through a brick wall to get the job done. Clay Smith

Clay Smith

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Briggs, Morris, M.Boyd types. I'd be going to the state leagues and looking at 2 stats: Tackles vs. Goals. Find the best small forwards who tackle and score.

On SM-G990E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[weltschmerz]

If the power lied with me, this is how I'd go.

Trade:
Smith
Macrae

Delist:
Keath
Bedendo
Clarke
VDM (paid out)
JJ

Rookie:
Rypstra

I would then go to the draft with any R1 and 2 picks, and then get hard-headed mature aged players. The type that would run through a brick wall to get the job done. Clay Smith, Briggs, Morris, M.Boyd types. I'd be going to the state leagues and looking at 2 stats: Tackles vs. Goals. Find the best small forwards who tackle and score.

On SM-G990E using BigFooty.com mobile app

Two of the top ten tacklers in the VFL are on our list, Orgill and Craig-Peters. Joel Trudgeon at Coburg is 20ish, averaged about 8 tackles and almost a goal a game as a midfielder. Billy Gowers is the leading goal kicker. Matt Johnson is up there for small forwards.

 

[PocketRocket08]

So no one thinks we'll try to find a way to get Artie off the list?

Watching him closely today. Come on.

If still persevere with arty. I believe he made good improvements second half of the year.
I am perplexed most say delist Clarke keep arty. Clarke a year younger and statistically he has arty covered. I agrrr Clarke has looked flat at times in second half of the year but to me it looks mental. Seem to lose confidence after his senior game. Definitely hope we keep him. Even if it’s as a rookie

 

[PocketRocket08]

Keath JJ Bedendo Rypstra del/ret & Macrae Smith trade

I know people here was JJ to go again next year but his body cant hold up in AFL anymore.

Clarke 1 year.

Agree with this but I’m inclined to keep JJ on one more year. Still has his leg speed. Can’t buy experience.