Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[lachy]

Worth a D+ apparently

Those ratings are about as relevant to influence on performance in seasons to come as supporters opinions, given those in the media are nothing more than supporters with a voice

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[Libbaaaa]

Worth a D+ apparently

Saw that Fox Footy report. The actual writing sounded like a B- and at the end they just threw a D+ in. Tossers.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Also Matthew Lloyd has officially entered tosser territory, absolutely reaming us for losing “3” All Australians, and that they were all played out of position.

 

[ossie_21]

Also Matthew Lloyd has officially entered tosser territory, absolutely reaming us for losing “3” All Australians, and that they were all played out of position.

Entered? He’s lived there for at least a few years.

It still makes me smile remembering him nearly in tears in 2020 right on the trade deadline when word came through that Dunkley was staying and we also got Treloar

 

[Dogs Rule]

Saw that Fox Footy report. The actual writing sounded like a B- and at the end they just threw a D+ in. Tossers.

The AFL media are just lemmings. The narrative is that we've got rid of a couple of all Australians (doesn't matter how long ago that was and their current form) and an apparent 'gun' who last shone three years ago.

They don't look beyond the surface, the easy answer is we did s***. Performing seals. The line that we did poorly is what will get a reaction and that's what they want.

We got 17, 25 for Daniel and injected some midfield hardness with Kennedy
- nah facts don't matter. If we were Geelong, we would have been called 'bold and courageous', but we're not Geelong.

Geelong have many media simps to do their bidding and run their propaganda as we have seen, we don't.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

There wasn't much we could do,

He was fine early days and you can't trade players against their will

We've lost Dunkley and Smith, both out of contract, entering their prime and the consensus being we got unders in terms of compensation for their abilities.

The idea that "No club is actually doing this better than anyone else" is head firmly planted in the sand stuff.

Looking at other clubs, other players have moved in their prime and done well, Jordan Russell moved from Sydney and improved, Lincoln McCarthy, Geelong to Brisbane, Rhys Stanley, St Kilda to Geelong. It happens to all clubs, this is not a Bulldogs thing.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Didn’t know the insta thing. Be interesting to know reasons down the track. But i don’t like the club pedestalling young players. I think the club has to look hard at what happened with Bailey Smith and Dunkley and do better. Not just with how it ended.

I agree the club needs to review why these players left, and do better. But the media was convinced we were going to lose Marra, English, Garcia and Busslinger, they all resigned. The glass is either half full or half empty.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Also Matthew Lloyd has officially entered tosser territory, absolutely reaming us for losing “3” All Australians, and that they were all played out of position.

Yeah well that seems a lot if you support Essendon, Bulldogs not so much.

 

[adogsfan5]

I can’t believe the lack of footy experts who can’t clearly see that Macrae and Daniel needed to be moved on in order for us to keep moving forward with the speed of the game.

 

[Dry Rot]

As for Smith, I lost all sympathy for him when he sat with Cats players and Cotton on at the Geelong final, despite Connors reputedly telling him not to, it’s a selfish, over-entitled, disloyal thing to do, and tells you all you need to know about Smith, I don’t think I have ever seen another player do that.

I haven't either.

In a strange sort of way that reminds me of sitting with my housemate watching a Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm episode when something happens, and one of us turns to the other and says no good will come of this. And it doesn't.

What you posted was an extraordinary thing for Smith to do, and apparently totally contrary to his manager's instructions and/or advice.

Sorry Cats fans, I think no good will come of this trade for Geelong.

 

[theAthenian]

some have said that the club has to review why the 3 all australians left in the last 2 years or so

Mcrae - over the hill already (simply slow and yes will pick out and occasional lead into the 50m area but on so many occasions over the last few years when a good kick is needed simply skys it into the air. Speed and disposal not that good anymore.

CD - always too limited aerially, exposed time and time and time again. This should have happened earlier and this contract for me was a real problem.

Dunkley-Smith : some people no matter how much you care protect and nurture them are simply campaigners end of story.

review over

Now lets get on with making the top 4 in 25

 

[The 4th Horseman]

Never forget

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Jeez, that’s rough news about Charlie Clarke. Hope he has the mental fortitude to deal with it… really wanted it to work out with him, seemed to have a bit of edge and personality on the ground that we all love (especially when they’re on your team).

Hopefully Treloar can give him some good advice, they seem to have a great relationship. Chook always came off as a good kid. Best of luck to him and who knows - he may get a chance at another club. Fingers crossed.

We’ll always have that hit on that campaigner Sicily to look back on fondly (albeit he came back onto the ground and won the game for them)

 

[Claudonious]

Your not seriously suggesting that we didn't unders for Dunkley or smith?

We got what we could under the circumstances - it is never as simple as “player is worth x therefore we should get x or we have failed”.

I could list all of the variables but it is not worth the effort.


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[slapper]

Dogs urged to consider trade with Hawks for gun pup Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

"Six months ago everyone was saying this kid was the next Buddy Franklin, so who says no to that trade?”

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Kane great trade suggestion!!!!


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[Bald]

I can’t seem to find anything confirming the Charlie Clarke delisting?

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Maybe the plan is to rookie Charlie.

 

[TiAn_]

Yeah would be surprising if we delist Clarke and don’t rookie him

 

[iambrilliant]

Yeah would be surprising if we delist Clarke and don’t rookie him

Would be pretty stupid if we didn’t rookie him in my opinion, unless he has some off field issues we don’t know about . Has looked like he’s improving in vfl and only been on the list 2 years . First round pick would be very stiff to get thrown out already

 

[Sid Nullis]

I can’t seem to find anything confirming the Charlie Clarke delisting?

I can’t seem to find anything confirming the Charlie Clarke

I can’t seem to find anything confirming the Charlie Clarke delisting?

Not officially announced by the club yet but has happened.

 

[W W Biscuit]

Dogs urged to consider trade with Hawks for gun pup Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

"Six months ago everyone was saying this kid was the next Buddy Franklin, so who says no to that trade?”

www.zerohanger.com

Kane great trade suggestion!!!!


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Trade out your superstars. Nek minnit: Why are you trading out your superstars?

You simply cannot win with the AFL media, and I love that Bevo doesn't even try. They will spin it the way they want to spin it.

 

[PocketRocket08]

Not officially announced by the club yet but has happened.

Yeah i can’t seem to find anything. You must have the inside word!! Keath delisted or retired also?

 

[Munnez]

Oke or ock?

Both most likely

 

[Sid Nullis]

Yeah i can’t seem to find anything. You must have the inside word!! Keath delisted or retired also?

Don’t know about Keath. Previous posts suggested he’s looking at local football so maybe retired.

 

[Munnez]

Also Matthew Lloyd has officially entered tosser territory, absolutely reaming us for losing “3” All Australians, and that they were all played out of position.

None of which were currently AA they have been in the past unlikely to do so again so not relevant to what is happening now