Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Bulldogs85]

He means at the end of his two year contract.

could of easily left at the end of this year and take up that offer way Re-sign and leave after 2 years

 

[goodcop badcop]

I doubt we pick up 2 in the trade period.

5 in the draft means we would be picking very late.

We seem to be having a fair few changes. I don't think 9 is a good idea

You will find some good players late in this draft from what I've seen and heard. In 2014, we picked 8 players in the draft and that was without a first round pick. 3 premiership players including 2 All Australians in that draft. Richmond took 10 players in that draft and 5 of those were premiership players and all those 5 were take after pick 66. It proves it can be done.

I'm not even suggesting we pick as many as this in the draft. 7 players picked in this draft is all I'm asking for.

 

[Doggy]

Jack Macrae is also managed by Connors

Looooooooooong bow

 

[Bald]

He means in 2 years..

So Jamarra has agreed to a one million a year deal that begins in 2027.

Lol.

 

[Spiritof82]

Have you been living under a rock or something

Ugle-Hagan remains in red, white and blue

Emerging key forward Jamarra Ugle-Hagan has put pen to paper on a two-year contract extension.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

Isn't Macrae contracted for another 2 years?

 

[Doggy]

So Jamarra has agreed to a one million a year deal that begins in 2027.

Lol.

I don't think it's necessarily true.

Just saying that's what I think the poster means

 

[Bald]

Isn't Macrae contracted for another 2 years?

I don't know if they teach you this at school or not, but there's a difference between a player requesting a trade and one that hasn't.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Isn't Macrae contracted for another 2 years?

JUH wouldn’t have Re-signed if he wanted to leave in 2 years

 

[Bald]

could of easily left at the end of this year and take up that offer way Re-sign and leave after 2 years

Don't be silly mate - it makes more sense for Jamarra to earn less money for the next 2 years for literally no reason.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

We wouldn't be going full North, I'm not suggesting getting rid of 10 - 12 players and cutting all our older players. Geelong is a good example of cutting deep enough, but not too deep and filling some of those late picks with good state league players towards the back end of the draft.

I'm suggesting we make 7 - 9 list changes, that amount depends on what happens during the trade period. I'd take 2 in the trade period if possible, 5 younger players through the draft and 2 state league players (or possibly leave a spot open for a mid season pick mid year and just pick one state league player this year) would be my ideal trade and draft period.

I agree with you.

I don't think getting rid of our late picks/preseason picks/mid season picks, who are a long way down the pecking order for different late picks/preseason picks/mid season picks is going to hurt us. Think in general we keep these guys far too long when it seems pretty likely they aren't going to make it

Edit: I'd keep JJ though in the very unlikely chance his body gets through a season. Still think he can offer a little.

 

[lachy]

Watching yesterday, it had zero to do with setups, much more to do will ball movement

Brisbane can either move the ball quick or build up patiently. It works mainly due to excellent skills and hitting targets and great movement by those without the ball both offensively and defensively.

Player personnel wise their mids work better as a group with spread, and importantly good skills.

It is why we improved with Richards becoming part of the mix and we need to keep building more quality through the middle.

Our backline is developing and fine, our forward line needs one genuine small forward who could finish and a forwards coach.

Players who do not have good skills shouldn't be there. Those with good skills need to work on their pressure.

Unless there are significant issues with JUH there is not a chance in hell I would trade him. I would have him mentored and supported to work on his flaws, and we have 2 more seasons to get that right.

Small Backs,.wings, mids and Small forwards with speed AND skills. If we can't trade draft them and continue developing those who improved this season.

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[TiAn_]

Jamarra had 10-12 year offers this year before re-signing, why re-sign if he wanted to go elsewhere. He had the opportunity.

 

[Scottish Bob]

Agree with the mentoring sentiment around JUH, he probably needs it in two ways, forward craft and life skills.

I know there isn’t perceived drama around him but I think he could still go down the route of Smith and get quite ego social media driven. He’s got a big profile now but he could genuinely be one of the biggest and most marketable stars in a couple of years.

I know it’s cliche but the club should really reach out to someone of indigenous background to help him along. Maybe a Burgoyne or Betts even get Varcoe back in some capacity, from what I’ve heard the boys loved him.

 

[Mojorisin]

Agree with the mentoring sentiment around JUH, he probably needs it in two ways, forward craft and life skills.

I know there isn’t perceived drama around him but I think he could still go down the route of Smith and get quite ego social media driven. He’s got a big profile now but he could genuinely be one of the biggest and most marketable stars in a couple of years.

I know it’s cliche but the club should really reach out to someone of indigenous background to help him along. Maybe a Burgoyne or Betts even get Varcoe back in some capacity, from what I’ve heard the boys loved him.

I would love to get Uncle Colin involved.

 

[The Inbetweener]

could of easily left at the end of this year and take up that offer way Re-sign and leave after 2 years

Connors is on record saying he encourages his players to do 6 years before considering a move as you are giving the club that drafts you half of your career.

him signing for two more years takes him to six years total.

Baz is leaving us after only signing a two year deal, taking him to 6 years with us.

 

[Dogs54]

I'd get rid JUH now while he has value doesn't tackle doesn't chase can't kick 100 goals 88 points.
Looks disinterested to me you may on the money ajarwa.

I see frustration from JUH. If our forward system worked towards isolating him then he is very hard to defend and will get easier shots at goal. At the moment he continually has to work hard to get free for no reward as we bomb the ball on his head and then he looks at opposition forwards who get easy lead up marks. This is on our coaching group to fix.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Connors is on record saying he encourages his players to do 6 years before considering a move as you are giving the club that drafts you half of your career.

him signing for two more years takes him to six years total.

Baz is leaving us after only signing a two year deal, taking him to 6 years with us.

Not all players do the 6 years Adam Cerra left Fremantle after 4 seasons

 

[hutchy31]

Watching yesterday, it had zero to do with setups, much more to do will ball movement

Brisbane can either move the ball quick or build up patiently. It works mainly due to excellent skills and hitting targets and great movement by those without the ball both offensively and defensively.

Player personnel wise their mids work better as a group with spread, and importantly good skills.

It is why we improved with Richards becoming part of the mix and we need to keep building more quality through the middle.

Our backline is developing and fine, our forward line needs one genuine small forward who could finish and a forwards coach.

Players who do not have good skills shouldn't be there. Those with good skills need to work on their pressure.

Unless there are significant issues with JUH there is not a chance in hell I would trade him. I would have him mentored and supported to work on his flaws, and we have 2 more seasons to get that right.

Small Backs,.wings, mids and Small forwards with speed AND skills. If we can't trade draft them and continue developing those who improved this season.

On SM-S926B using BigFooty.com mobile app

Couldn’t agree more. I know some on here think it’s unfair to have VDM, McNeil and others as whipping boys - but they just don’t have the requisite composure, skills and decision making ability to play at the top level. Regardless of their ability to pressure.

I can’t really think of a Brisbane player across their mid and forward lines who I wouldn’t trust with ball in hand. They’re not all going to go at 100% obviously but they have decent ability to actually kick the footy. Even in their backline probably Payne is the only really questionable one.

All they needed was to lock in defensively in those mid and forward lines and it was all over.

It’ll be interesting to see who we draft and/ or trade for this year. Smalls with speed and skills aren’t necessarily growing on trees but that’s exactly what we need. Unfortunately more than a few other teams will be thinking the same thing.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Not all players do the 6 years Adam Cerra left Fremantle after 4 seasons

Yeah I know. What I’m saying is that Connors encourages them to do 6 years before considering a move.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Lol Connors managed Lachie Hunter and still manages Jake Stringer.
There's a pattern there.

Didn’t he manage Dunkley as well?

 

[The Inbetweener]

Didn’t he manage Dunkley as well?

Nah that’s Liam Pickering.

 

[Pencil case]

Now that this grand final that noone gives a stuff about is done (lol Shitney), we can now get to the period we all care about.

What is our state of play?

Targets: O'Halloran, Peatling (unlikely), Houston (very unlikely)

Trade: Macrae (sad), Smith (good riddance), maybe Daniel, Garcia (hopefully not)

I think there’s a high chance Macrae will stay as Saints don’t want to give up 43.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Trade Radio starts tomorrow that should be fun hours and hours talking crap

 

[Mojorisin]

Trade Radio starts tomorrow that should be fun hours and hours talking crap

Only about an hour a day of talking crap. The rest is ads.

 

[True Dog]

I think there’s a high chance Macrae will stay as Saints don’t want to give up 43.

Let’s wait and see, if we’re cooking something in the background and want the money off the books we may expect a little less.