Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Deadly Darcy]

Plus he’d only nominate a 1-year deal not giving other clubs any security but with a handshake deal with Geelong to immediately extend.

If you picked him in the teens he’d want to play well for that year to keep his 6 pack followers happy and then you’d get Geelongs first rounder the next year if he still went. Cotton on wouldn’t let him sit out a year.

He’d be worth a punt for a team in a premiership window with a first rounder before Geelong.

 

[BeMoreBont]

This is how grim it is

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I much prefer our "list' of linked player/s over Essendons. Awful.

 

[Contador]

Won't improve our team much but have heard we're well progressed in talks with fin macrae. Wants to play with his brother.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I'm only trading MacRae for there second rounder and **** everyone else he stays otherwise, why make a rival stronger for no reason, MacRae should have played every game this year anyway, he played well everytime he got a chance our team selection sucked all year, the sub should always be someone very athletic or tough aggressive or both not a smart hard worker with great foot skills , losing and not playing MacRae is a huge mistake

I wouldn’t really call St Kilda a rival

 

[weltschmerz]

Won't improve our team much but have heard we're well progressed in talks with fin macrae. Wants to play with his brother.

I regret to inform you

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I think the one thing that could work out with adding no players from other clubs is that the weaknesses in our 22 currently are positions that the players we’ve drafted in recent times could fill.

Darcy is the only player from the last three drafts that is solidified in the best 22 (probably Freijah too now but there is a question on where in the 22 he’ll play). Think we’ve got a pretty well settled core depending on how long some of the older guys hang around. Jones and Lobb as key defenders, the half backs where really solid this year, the main midfield rotation is super strong, Williams is solid on the wing and Darcy/Naughton/Ugle-Hagan/Weightman/West is a good, potentially great forward line. Main areas of improvement are a younger key defender to compliment Lobb and Jones, a half forward/fifth rotation midfielder, another wing and some pressure forwards.

Key defenders - Busslinger, O’Donnell
Rotation mid / midfield depth - Sanders, Gallagher
Wing - Freijah, Poulter
Pressure forwards - Jones, Clarke

A question mark on a lot of guys whether they’ll make it but the opportunity should probably be there for them to have jumps and maybe our improvement will come from that. Plus hopefully we end up with some half decent picks by the end of the period. Its probably better than bringing in a stopgap option for the sake of it but we’ve brought at least one player in each year since 2011, so wouldn’t be surprised if there is someone they’re targeting but its been kept under wraps until now. At the very minimum we do need to bring in a mature bodied back up ruck so we don’t need to rely on Lobb/Darcy if English goes down and maybe even put pressure on English’s spot if he has another sustained period like he had this season.

 

[weltschmerz]

I think the one thing that could work out with adding no players from other clubs is that the weaknesses in our 22 currently are positions that the players we’ve drafted in recent times could fill.

Darcy is the only player from the last three drafts that is solidified in the best 22 (probably Freijah too now but there is a question on where in the 22 he’ll play). Think we’ve got a pretty well settled core depending on how long some of the older guys hang around. Jones and Lobb as key defenders, the half backs where really solid this year, the main midfield rotation is super strong, Williams is solid on the wing and Darcy/Naughton/Ugle-Hagan/Weightman/West is a good, potentially great forward line. Main areas of improvement are a younger key defender to compliment Lobb and Jones, a half forward/fifth rotation midfielder, another wing and some pressure forwards.

Key defenders - Busslinger, O’Donnell
Rotation mid / midfield depth - Sanders, Gallagher
Wing - Freijah, Poulter
Pressure forwards - Jones, Clarke

A question mark on a lot of guys whether they’ll make it but the opportunity should probably be there for them to have jumps and maybe our improvement will come from that. Plus hopefully we end up with some half decent picks by the end of the period. Its probably better than bringing in a stopgap option for the sake of it but we’ve brought at least one player in each year since 2011, so wouldn’t be surprised if there is someone they’re targeting but its been kept under wraps until now. At the very minimum we do need to bring in a mature bodied back up ruck so we don’t need to rely on Lobb/Darcy if English goes down and maybe even put pressure on English’s spot if he has another sustained period like he had this season.

When it comes to pressure forwards, we’ve clearly wanted to address that in the draft too. O’Driscoll seemed earmarked for the running HHF role VDM’s been playing, had the perfect athletic profile - his head injury was just an awful situation in every way. When given the chance for a free hit in the mid season draft, instead of going for the utility we were linked to in Bianco, we took a punt on a similar player in Rypstra. Clearly a role we do want to fill.

 

[Munnez]

I regret to inform you

Therefore is off to the Saints

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

as far as XOH a quick look at GWS draft hand this year after receiving 2 compo picks tells you they arent releasing a contracted player for 2024 junk picks. We may have more luck if we continue to pursue that with future picks

 

[HELMET!]

Depth is starting to look a little thin for non kp again if we lose those expected.

Smith
Macrae
Daniel
Garcia
All potentially leaving. While we have the plodders who will only be 20+ on our list in

McNeil
Vdm
Scott
Khamis
Poulter
Baker
Clarke
Gardner

JJ, Coffield and Keath are permanently injured or old.

Not to mention cleary never getting a gig.

it's bleak reading tbh.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Thats laughably sad

Would Adam Treloar have featured on these lists at this time of the off-season when he joined us.

I wouldn't panic either. We're keeping things under lock and key because there's still an element of uncertainty of both our draft hand and our salary cap with Daniel and Macrae. Rumours will pick up once it's clear whether they're staying or going.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Won't improve our team much but have heard we're well progressed in talks with fin macrae. Wants to play with his brother.

Whose gonna tell him

 

[lachy]

Thankfully trade period starts tomorrow.

It is and always has.been the most over rated time.of the year. Best you can hope for is lose no one of note, pick up a player or 2 to strengthen the team but most importantly strengthen the draft hand.

At this stage the only players actually leaving is Smith who was bog average for the last season and a half he played and missed this season all together so really we are losing a player who has not produced for near on 3 seasons who has issues off field.

Yes Daniel and Macrae are former AA's. They are not those players now and will have limited impact going forward. If they are to leave we do what we can to facilitate it for them for respect for what they have done for the club, and make sure the other club also respects them.

Garcia is not a best 22, may become but is not.

We have signed all bar 1 player this season. We are working at signing Bont, Ed and Darcy.

Personally trust Power to pick up one or 2 needs players, he has a good record of this and get us in a better draft position.

We improved in a lot of areas and have scope for a lot of internal improvement both as a team and individual players. Irrelevant to how the next couple of weeks go we should be challenging for top 4 next season

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[House_of_Dahl]

Thankfully trade period starts tomorrow.

It is and always has.been the most over rated time.of the year. Best you can hope for is lose no one of note, pick up a player or 2 to strengthen the team but most importantly strengthen the draft hand.

At this stage the only players actually leaving is Smith who was bog average for the last season and a half he played and missed this season all together so really we are losing a player who has not produced for near on 3 seasons who has issues off field.

Yes Daniel and Macrae are former AA's. They are not those players now and will have limited impact going forward. If they are to leave we do what we can to facilitate it for them for respect for what they have done for the club, and make sure the other club also respects them.

Garcia is not a best 22, may become but is not.

We have signed all bar 1 player this season. We are working at signing Bont, Ed and Darcy.

Personally trust Power to pick up one or 2 needs players, he has a good record of this and get us in a better draft position.

We improved in a lot of areas and have scope for a lot of internal improvement both as a team and individual players. Irrelevant to how the next couple of weeks go we should be challenging for top 4 next season

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Mods we have someone being rational here...ffs...


Repeat after me - everyone is leaving, noone is coming, we are ****ed...

 

[grassman75]

Won't improve our team much but have heard we're well progressed in talks with fin macrae. Wants to play with his brother.

What? At Stk?

 

[mattwa]

If we are moving cap this off season for a run at a Callaghan or a Butters then I couldn't care less who we bring in this season. Bring a couple more young players in via the draft and don't overpay on role players in picks/salary

 

[Southern 8]

If we are moving cap this off season for a run at a Callaghan or a Butters then I couldn't care less who we bring in this season. Bring a couple more young players in via the draft and don't overpay on role players in picks/salary

Or maybe Rayner?

 

[Mofra]

If we can find a way to get back into the first round of the draft this year I'm going to be happy enough. I'm not sure bringing in a fringe player where there's no desperate need will help us.

We have Harmes, Sanders has to play, do we need a fringe mid when we can just draft one and give them time? Keep Garcia, and our rotations look ok.

 

[NthBondiDoggies]

Thankfully trade period starts tomorrow.

It is and always has.been the most over rated time.of the year. Best you can hope for is lose no one of note, pick up a player or 2 to strengthen the team but most importantly strengthen the draft hand.

At this stage the only players actually leaving is Smith who was bog average for the last season and a half he played and missed this season all together so really we are losing a player who has not produced for near on 3 seasons who has issues off field.

Yes Daniel and Macrae are former AA's. They are not those players now and will have limited impact going forward. If they are to leave we do what we can to facilitate it for them for respect for what they have done for the club, and make sure the other club also respects them.

Garcia is not a best 22, may become but is not.

We have signed all bar 1 player this season. We are working at signing Bont, Ed and Darcy.

Personally trust Power to pick up one or 2 needs players, he has a good record of this and get us in a better draft position.

We improved in a lot of areas and have scope for a lot of internal improvement both as a team and individual players. Irrelevant to how the next couple of weeks go we should be challenging for top 4 next season

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Don’t be so rational - Scrooge!

Plenty of teams would think the past few years of JUH, Darcy, Croft as bonuses isn’t too bad.

While I don’t want to see either of Macrae or Daniel leaving - they have both played 10 years with us - won a premiership and played in another and finals most years. They are not walk up best 22 for us because they play on areas of strength - they will be best 22 for most of the bottom half of teams.

I am not a coach but feel like both Macrae and CD could have been played in better ones and am not looking forward to Macca - one of my favourite players leaving and getting 35 against us or CD carving us up. I am happy for the club to do what it can to make these work.

Our starting 22 next year is a top four team and more players have upside* than downside/age catching up (/) and few players were below their best(?). In our areas of age we have coverage - A good preseason with very few injuries and we will come back for another tilt.

FF: Weightman* Naughton (?) Darcy*

HF: West* JUH* Harmes

C: Williams Trelor- Friejah*

R: English(?) Bont Libba

HB: Dale Lobb- Coffield*

FB: JJ- Jones- Duryea

Int: Red, Bramble, Poulter,* Sanders*

Coverage who are AFL ready and have at least played some good AFL games:

FF: McNeil Khamis (utility)

HF: A Jones* VDM

C: Baker Scott

R: Garcia* Gallagher

HB:Cleary JOD*

B: Buss* Gardner

Developing: Croft, Smith and Clarke

Incoming: if we lose Smith, Daniel, Macrae, Bedendo, Rypstra, O’Driscoll and Keath retires that is 7 new players - a massive new injection - surely 2 of these minimum add to the team this year.

Draft likely to have:

12-17 for Smith - will likely be a good player

35 ish as a first pick (should come forwards a couple) - still good this draft

42 ish as a second pick (should also come forwards a couple) - for need Ruck

45 for Macrae - for need small defender

50 ish for Daniel or could be a trade - would like Tom Powell

One trade for need and one MSD or UFA (Don’t mind Curtis Taylor) or State league roughy (Ruck or small defender like Partick Voss)

Watching VFL was clear that we needed a mature ruck and a tall forward. With these in place we would have won the competition IMHO.

 

[Hobdog]

Won't improve our team much but have heard we're well progressed in talks with fin macrae. Wants to play with his brother.

Surely a pisstake?


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[adogsfan5]

Won't improve our team much but have heard we're well progressed in talks with fin macrae. Wants to play with his brother.

Good news - he can stink it up at the saints.

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

Depth is starting to look a little thin for non kp again if we lose those expected.

Smith
Macrae
Daniel
Garcia
All potentially leaving. While we have the plodders who will only be 20+ on our list in

McNeil
Vdm
Scott
Khamis
Poulter
Baker
Clarke
Gardner

JJ, Coffield and Keath are permanently injured or old.

Not to mention cleary never getting a gig.

it's bleak reading tbh.

Yep, the alarm bells should be ringing. A plethora of overly generous contracts, aging stars, top liners whose form is completely mercurial, first rounders who are disturbingly slow to develop, an embarrassingly crap draft hand and to top it all off we are about to be so repeatedly bent over at the trade table we might as well take a shower in a prison.

 

[Thunderoad]

Yep, the alarm bells should be ringing. A plethora of overly generous contracts, aging stars, top liners whose form is completely mercurial, first rounders who are disturbingly slow to develop, an embarrassingly crap draft hand and to top it all off we are about to be so repeatedly bent over at the trade table we might as well take a shower in a prison.

Danny from Droop St has logged into the chat.

 

[WB_]

Yep, the alarm bells should be ringing. A plethora of overly generous contracts, aging stars, top liners whose form is completely mercurial, first rounders who are disturbingly slow to develop, an embarrassingly crap draft hand and to top it all off we are about to be so repeatedly bent over at the trade table we might as well take a shower in a prison.

The sky is falling!