List Mgmt. Trade & F.A. 2017 (if a scenario sounds wrong - read on before posting)

[partypie]

Would i personally do De Goey for Lever, yes 100% I just don't know why the Crows would do the deal. Swap Francis for Parish and maybe thats enough but even then...

Well that makes one of us - no way would I do that deal.

DeGoey is a 21 year old midfield bull who will be part of the leadership group in our next-gen team, wouldn't at all be surprised to see him become an A-grader to be honest.

People think about the strength of our midfield now, but looking at the current list below there are some concerns for the next generation if you look into your crystal ball:

5 Elliott, Jamie 87 24yr 11mth 21 Aug 1992 178cm 81kg Murray Bushrangers Forward (has wanted to move into the midfield but too valuable as a forward?)
26 Daicos, Josh 0 18yr 8mth 26 Nov 1998 178cm 72kg Oakleigh Chargers Forward (too small for midfield?)
37 Maynard, Brayden 49 20yr 10mth 20 Sep 1996 189cm 90kg Sandringham Dragons Defender (unlikely that he'd transition to midfield, but if he ever gets a brain and some composure then he's got the physical traits to be a gun attacking bull midfielder)
29 Broomhead, Timothy 33 23yr 4mth 22 Mar 1994 185cm 80kg Port Adelaide Forward (not sure if he'll make it - 6-7 years left?)
32 Hoskin-Elliott, Will 72 23yr 11mth 2 Sep 1993 186cm 80kg Western Jets Midfield Forward (wing / HFF)
7 Treloar, Adam 120 24yr 5mth 9 Mar 1993 182cm 85kg Aspendale Midfield (core midfield group 6-7 years left?)
10 Pendlebury, Scott 252 29yr 7mth 7 Jan 1988 191cm 91kg Gippsland Power Midfield (core midfield group - 3-4 years left?)
14 Aish, James 53 21yr 9mth 8 Nov 1995 183cm 78kg Norwood Midfield (fringe midfielder - 10 year player?)
22 Sidebottom, Steele 183 26yr 7mth 2 Jan 1991 184cm 86kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (core midfield group - 4-5 years left?)
25 Crisp, Jack 82 23yr 10mth 2 Oct 1993 190cm 91kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (wing / HBF?)
2 De Goey, Jordan 50 21yr 5mth 15 Mar 1996 191cm 91kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (core midfield group - 10 year player?)
3 Wells, Daniel 253 32yr 6mth 3 Feb 1985 181cm 85kg Peel Thunder Midfield Forward (1 year left?)
17 Brown, Callum 3 19yr 3mth 27 Apr 1998 178cm 73kg Eastern Ranges Midfield Forward (too small for midfield?)
19 Greenwood, Levi 119 28yr 5mth 19 Feb 1989 181cm 91kg Port Adelaide Magpies Midfield Forward (1-2 years left?)
21 Phillips, Tom 22 21yr 3mth 7 May 1996 187cm 79kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (endurance beast, replacement for sidey maybe if he pans out - 5-10 year player?)
33 Wills, Rupert 6 24yr 2mth 20 May 1993 192cm 87kg Collingwood Vfl Midfield Forward (a bit slow for the modern game, could still pan out - 6-8 years left if he does?)
36 Sier, Brayden 0 19yr 8mth 12 Dec 1997 191cm 89kg Northern Knights Midfield Forward (probably not going to make it although I hope he does)
24 Thomas, Josh (R) 39 25yr 10mth 1 Oct 1991 178cm 77kg Redlands Fc Midfield Forward (not sure if he'll make it, needs another year to prove himself - 4-5 years left if he does?)
13 Adams, Taylor 95 23yr 10mth 20 Sep 1993 181cm 83kg Geelong Falcons Defender
Midfield - (left him out - obviously a 10 year player!) ​

The only definites in my mind for our next-gen midfield in the post Pendles / Sidey era are Treloar (who'll be coming to the tail end of his career), Adams and DeGoey (maybe Phillips too if he pans out) - would hope that Aish might make it as well. We'll obviously acquire some midfield talent (via draft / trade / free agency) between now and then, but the core midfield / leadership group in 5 years time will likely come from who we have on the list now.

I'd lover to get Lever in obviously, but a swap for DeGoey would be robbing Peter to pay Paul in our next-gen team 5 years from now imo.

 

[Matt_352]

Come on Matty you've posted a few trades over the years that have been a little silly

Nowhere near that bad

 

[Matt_352]

DeGoey is untouchable. Id trade Pendles before DeGoey

 

[Roverjg]

Well that makes one of us - no way would I do that deal.

DeGoey is a 21 year old midfield bull who will be part of the leadership group in our next-gen team, wouldn't at all be surprised to see him become an A-grader to be honest.

People think about the strength of our midfield now, but looking at the current list below there are some concerns for the next generation if you look into your crystal ball:

5 Elliott, Jamie 87 24yr 11mth 21 Aug 1992 178cm 81kg Murray Bushrangers Forward (has wanted to move into the midfield but too valuable as a forward?)
26 Daicos, Josh 0 18yr 8mth 26 Nov 1998 178cm 72kg Oakleigh Chargers Forward (too small for midfield?)
37 Maynard, Brayden 49 20yr 10mth 20 Sep 1996 189cm 90kg Sandringham Dragons Defender (unlikely that he'd transition to midfield, but if he ever gets a brain and some composure then he's got the physical traits to be a gun attacking bull midfielder)
29 Broomhead, Timothy 33 23yr 4mth 22 Mar 1994 185cm 80kg Port Adelaide Forward (not sure if he'll make it - 6-7 years left?)
32 Hoskin-Elliott, Will 72 23yr 11mth 2 Sep 1993 186cm 80kg Western Jets Midfield Forward (wing / HFF)
7 Treloar, Adam 120 24yr 5mth 9 Mar 1993 182cm 85kg Aspendale Midfield (core midfield group 6-7 years left?)
10 Pendlebury, Scott 252 29yr 7mth 7 Jan 1988 191cm 91kg Gippsland Power Midfield (core midfield group - 3-4 years left?)
14 Aish, James 53 21yr 9mth 8 Nov 1995 183cm 78kg Norwood Midfield (fringe midfielder - 10 year player?)
22 Sidebottom, Steele 183 26yr 7mth 2 Jan 1991 184cm 86kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (core midfield group - 4-5 years left?)
25 Crisp, Jack 82 23yr 10mth 2 Oct 1993 190cm 91kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (wing / HBF?)
2 De Goey, Jordan 50 21yr 5mth 15 Mar 1996 191cm 91kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (core midfield group - 10 year player?)
3 Wells, Daniel 253 32yr 6mth 3 Feb 1985 181cm 85kg Peel Thunder Midfield Forward (1 year left?)
17 Brown, Callum 3 19yr 3mth 27 Apr 1998 178cm 73kg Eastern Ranges Midfield Forward (too small for midfield?)
19 Greenwood, Levi 119 28yr 5mth 19 Feb 1989 181cm 91kg Port Adelaide Magpies Midfield Forward (1-2 years left?)
21 Phillips, Tom 22 21yr 3mth 7 May 1996 187cm 79kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (endurance beast, replacement for sidey maybe if he pans out - 5-10 year player?)
33 Wills, Rupert 6 24yr 2mth 20 May 1993 192cm 87kg Collingwood Vfl Midfield Forward (a bit slow for the modern game, could still pan out - 6-8 years left if he does?)
36 Sier, Brayden 0 19yr 8mth 12 Dec 1997 191cm 89kg Northern Knights Midfield Forward (probably not going to make it although I hope he does)
24 Thomas, Josh (R) 39 25yr 10mth 1 Oct 1991 178cm 77kg Redlands Fc Midfield Forward (not sure if he'll make it, needs another year to prove himself - 4-5 years left if he does?)​

The only definites in my mind for our next-gen midfield in the post Pendles / Sidey era are Treloar (who'll be coming to the tail end of his career) and DeGoey (maybe Phillips too if he pans out) - would hope that Aish might make it as well. We'll obviously acquire some midfield talent (via draft / trade / free agency) between now and then, but the core midfield / leadership group in 5 years time will likely come from who we have on the list now.

I'd lover to get Lever in obviously, but a swap for DeGoey would be robbing Peter to pay Paul in our next-gen team 5 years from now imo.

I agree that DeGoey will be the cornerstone of our midfield over the next 8-9 years. Having said that our list is unbalanced. Would you consider trading some of our older midfielders out to cover some of our deficiencies?

 

[sr36]

Well that makes one of us - no way would I do that deal.

DeGoey is a 21 year old midfield bull who will be part of the leadership group in our next-gen team, wouldn't at all be surprised to see him become an A-grader to be honest.

People think about the strength of our midfield now, but looking at the current list below there are some concerns for the next generation if you look into your crystal ball:

5 Elliott, Jamie 87 24yr 11mth 21 Aug 1992 178cm 81kg Murray Bushrangers Forward (has wanted to move into the midfield but too valuable as a forward?)
26 Daicos, Josh 0 18yr 8mth 26 Nov 1998 178cm 72kg Oakleigh Chargers Forward (too small for midfield?)
37 Maynard, Brayden 49 20yr 10mth 20 Sep 1996 189cm 90kg Sandringham Dragons Defender (unlikely that he'd transition to midfield, but if he ever gets a brain and some composure then he's got the physical traits to be a gun attacking bull midfielder)
29 Broomhead, Timothy 33 23yr 4mth 22 Mar 1994 185cm 80kg Port Adelaide Forward (not sure if he'll make it - 6-7 years left?)
32 Hoskin-Elliott, Will 72 23yr 11mth 2 Sep 1993 186cm 80kg Western Jets Midfield Forward (wing / HFF)
7 Treloar, Adam 120 24yr 5mth 9 Mar 1993 182cm 85kg Aspendale Midfield (core midfield group 6-7 years left?)
10 Pendlebury, Scott 252 29yr 7mth 7 Jan 1988 191cm 91kg Gippsland Power Midfield (core midfield group - 3-4 years left?)
14 Aish, James 53 21yr 9mth 8 Nov 1995 183cm 78kg Norwood Midfield (fringe midfielder - 10 year player?)
22 Sidebottom, Steele 183 26yr 7mth 2 Jan 1991 184cm 86kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (core midfield group - 4-5 years left?)
25 Crisp, Jack 82 23yr 10mth 2 Oct 1993 190cm 91kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (wing / HBF?)
2 De Goey, Jordan 50 21yr 5mth 15 Mar 1996 191cm 91kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (core midfield group - 10 year player?)
3 Wells, Daniel 253 32yr 6mth 3 Feb 1985 181cm 85kg Peel Thunder Midfield Forward (1 year left?)
17 Brown, Callum 3 19yr 3mth 27 Apr 1998 178cm 73kg Eastern Ranges Midfield Forward (too small for midfield?)
19 Greenwood, Levi 119 28yr 5mth 19 Feb 1989 181cm 91kg Port Adelaide Magpies Midfield Forward (1-2 years left?)
21 Phillips, Tom 22 21yr 3mth 7 May 1996 187cm 79kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (endurance beast, replacement for sidey maybe if he pans out - 5-10 year player?)
33 Wills, Rupert 6 24yr 2mth 20 May 1993 192cm 87kg Collingwood Vfl Midfield Forward (a bit slow for the modern game, could still pan out - 6-8 years left if he does?)
36 Sier, Brayden 0 19yr 8mth 12 Dec 1997 191cm 89kg Northern Knights Midfield Forward (probably not going to make it although I hope he does)
24 Thomas, Josh (R) 39 25yr 10mth 1 Oct 1991 178cm 77kg Redlands Fc Midfield Forward (not sure if he'll make it, needs another year to prove himself - 4-5 years left if he does?)​

The only definites in my mind for our next-gen midfield in the post Pendles / Sidey era are Treloar (who'll be coming to the tail end of his career) and DeGoey (maybe Phillips too if he pans out) - would hope that Aish might make it as well. We'll obviously acquire some midfield talent (via draft / trade / free agency) between now and then, but the core midfield / leadership group in 5 years time will likely come from who we have on the list now.

Agree with much of this, but poor Tay. Not even up to Sier's level

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Well that makes one of us - no way would I do that deal.

DeGoey is a 21 year old midfield bull who will be part of the leadership group in our next-gen team, wouldn't at all be surprised to see him become an A-grader to be honest.

People think about the strength of our midfield now, but looking at the current list below there are some concerns for the next generation if you look into your crystal ball:

5 Elliott, Jamie 87 24yr 11mth 21 Aug 1992 178cm 81kg Murray Bushrangers Forward (has wanted to move into the midfield but too valuable as a forward?)
26 Daicos, Josh 0 18yr 8mth 26 Nov 1998 178cm 72kg Oakleigh Chargers Forward (too small for midfield?)
37 Maynard, Brayden 49 20yr 10mth 20 Sep 1996 189cm 90kg Sandringham Dragons Defender (unlikely that he'd transition to midfield, but if he ever gets a brain and some composure then he's got the physical traits to be a gun attacking bull midfielder)
29 Broomhead, Timothy 33 23yr 4mth 22 Mar 1994 185cm 80kg Port Adelaide Forward (not sure if he'll make it - 6-7 years left?)
32 Hoskin-Elliott, Will 72 23yr 11mth 2 Sep 1993 186cm 80kg Western Jets Midfield Forward (wing / HFF)
7 Treloar, Adam 120 24yr 5mth 9 Mar 1993 182cm 85kg Aspendale Midfield (core midfield group 6-7 years left?)
10 Pendlebury, Scott 252 29yr 7mth 7 Jan 1988 191cm 91kg Gippsland Power Midfield (core midfield group - 3-4 years left?)
14 Aish, James 53 21yr 9mth 8 Nov 1995 183cm 78kg Norwood Midfield (fringe midfielder - 10 year player?)
22 Sidebottom, Steele 183 26yr 7mth 2 Jan 1991 184cm 86kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (core midfield group - 4-5 years left?)
25 Crisp, Jack 82 23yr 10mth 2 Oct 1993 190cm 91kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (wing / HBF?)
2 De Goey, Jordan 50 21yr 5mth 15 Mar 1996 191cm 91kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (core midfield group - 10 year player?)
3 Wells, Daniel 253 32yr 6mth 3 Feb 1985 181cm 85kg Peel Thunder Midfield Forward (1 year left?)
17 Brown, Callum 3 19yr 3mth 27 Apr 1998 178cm 73kg Eastern Ranges Midfield Forward (too small for midfield?)
19 Greenwood, Levi 119 28yr 5mth 19 Feb 1989 181cm 91kg Port Adelaide Magpies Midfield Forward (1-2 years left?)
21 Phillips, Tom 22 21yr 3mth 7 May 1996 187cm 79kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (endurance beast, replacement for sidey maybe if he pans out - 5-10 year player?)
33 Wills, Rupert 6 24yr 2mth 20 May 1993 192cm 87kg Collingwood Vfl Midfield Forward (a bit slow for the modern game, could still pan out - 6-8 years left if he does?)
36 Sier, Brayden 0 19yr 8mth 12 Dec 1997 191cm 89kg Northern Knights Midfield Forward (probably not going to make it although I hope he does)
24 Thomas, Josh (R) 39 25yr 10mth 1 Oct 1991 178cm 77kg Redlands Fc Midfield Forward (not sure if he'll make it, needs another year to prove himself - 4-5 years left if he does?)​

The only definites in my mind for our next-gen midfield in the post Pendles / Sidey era are Treloar (who'll be coming to the tail end of his career) and DeGoey (maybe Phillips too if he pans out) - would hope that Aish might make it as well. We'll obviously acquire some midfield talent (via draft / trade / free agency) between now and then, but the core midfield / leadership group in 5 years time will likely come from who we have on the list now.

I'd lover to get Lever in obviously, but a swap for DeGoey would be robbing Peter to pay Paul in our next-gen team 5 years from now imo.

I agree with your sentiment but you are forgetting (unlesd I missed it) one Taylor Adams. Plus Sidey still has a lot of time left.
With Treloar, Adams and Sidey you 3 "A-grades" if you want to call them that. (Ranging from A+ to A-), and I reckon JDG has potential to join that group. Then have guys like Aish, Brown (clearly a mid IMO, size not as big a factor as some make out if he builds other skills), Crisp, Phillips rotating through (depending on their development).

But I do agree I would not want to give up JDG for Lever. I would be open to Shaz+2nd round for Lever if Shaz wants to go (or Shaz and our 1st for Lever and Ade's first) - but I probably rate Shaz higher than most.

 

[ottoman]

Blues fans on their board are reporting they have put an offer to Lynch of 1.6 million a year for 6 years in 2018.

I really hope that is true and I really hope if it is true it happens

 

[Thefly38]

Well that makes one of us - no way would I do that deal.

DeGoey is a 21 year old midfield bull who will be part of the leadership group in our next-gen team, wouldn't at all be surprised to see him become an A-grader to be honest.

People think about the strength of our midfield now, but looking at the current list below there are some concerns for the next generation if you look into your crystal ball:

5 Elliott, Jamie 87 24yr 11mth 21 Aug 1992 178cm 81kg Murray Bushrangers Forward (has wanted to move into the midfield but too valuable as a forward?)
26 Daicos, Josh 0 18yr 8mth 26 Nov 1998 178cm 72kg Oakleigh Chargers Forward (too small for midfield?)
37 Maynard, Brayden 49 20yr 10mth 20 Sep 1996 189cm 90kg Sandringham Dragons Defender (unlikely that he'd transition to midfield, but if he ever gets a brain and some composure then he's got the physical traits to be a gun attacking bull midfielder)
29 Broomhead, Timothy 33 23yr 4mth 22 Mar 1994 185cm 80kg Port Adelaide Forward (not sure if he'll make it - 6-7 years left?)
32 Hoskin-Elliott, Will 72 23yr 11mth 2 Sep 1993 186cm 80kg Western Jets Midfield Forward (wing / HFF)
7 Treloar, Adam 120 24yr 5mth 9 Mar 1993 182cm 85kg Aspendale Midfield (core midfield group 6-7 years left?)
10 Pendlebury, Scott 252 29yr 7mth 7 Jan 1988 191cm 91kg Gippsland Power Midfield (core midfield group - 3-4 years left?)
14 Aish, James 53 21yr 9mth 8 Nov 1995 183cm 78kg Norwood Midfield (fringe midfielder - 10 year player?)
22 Sidebottom, Steele 183 26yr 7mth 2 Jan 1991 184cm 86kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (core midfield group - 4-5 years left?)
25 Crisp, Jack 82 23yr 10mth 2 Oct 1993 190cm 91kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield (wing / HBF?)
2 De Goey, Jordan 50 21yr 5mth 15 Mar 1996 191cm 91kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (core midfield group - 10 year player?)
3 Wells, Daniel 253 32yr 6mth 3 Feb 1985 181cm 85kg Peel Thunder Midfield Forward (1 year left?)
17 Brown, Callum 3 19yr 3mth 27 Apr 1998 178cm 73kg Eastern Ranges Midfield Forward (too small for midfield?)
19 Greenwood, Levi 119 28yr 5mth 19 Feb 1989 181cm 91kg Port Adelaide Magpies Midfield Forward (1-2 years left?)
21 Phillips, Tom 22 21yr 3mth 7 May 1996 187cm 79kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward (endurance beast, replacement for sidey maybe if he pans out - 5-10 year player?)
33 Wills, Rupert 6 24yr 2mth 20 May 1993 192cm 87kg Collingwood Vfl Midfield Forward (a bit slow for the modern game, could still pan out - 6-8 years left if he does?)
36 Sier, Brayden 0 19yr 8mth 12 Dec 1997 191cm 89kg Northern Knights Midfield Forward (probably not going to make it although I hope he does)
24 Thomas, Josh (R) 39 25yr 10mth 1 Oct 1991 178cm 77kg Redlands Fc Midfield Forward (not sure if he'll make it, needs another year to prove himself - 4-5 years left if he does?)​

The only definites in my mind for our next-gen midfield in the post Pendles / Sidey era are Treloar (who'll be coming to the tail end of his career) and DeGoey (maybe Phillips too if he pans out) - would hope that Aish might make it as well. We'll obviously acquire some midfield talent (via draft / trade / free agency) between now and then, but the core midfield / leadership group in 5 years time will likely come from who we have on the list now.

I'd lover to get Lever in obviously, but a swap for DeGoey would be robbing Peter to pay Paul in our next-gen team 5 years from now imo.

Did you delist Adams

 

[ottoman]

I know a lot of you follow football in general much more closely than I do. I just follow Collingwood.
But even with my less than knowledgeable mind I can come up with the conclusion that many of you are brain dead.
2 years ago everyone was willing to throw our next 20 years of first rounders plus Victoria Park plus an open cheque book plus our wives and children if it meant we could get Cameron. Apparently he was the greatest footballer that was ever going to play the game. Now you numskulls want to do the same thing with Lever or Lynch. Just for your info Lynch averages less than 2 goals a game. Lever is a guy who has shown some potential. That's it.
What happened to Cameron. Not so long ago you all thought that he was the be all and end all, just like your all doing now with Lever and Lynch.
Why aren't you all so enthusiastic about Hawkins. He averages more goals than Lynch.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Is it just me or has our midfield looked better since Pendles was injured? I'm not suggesting we trade Pendles but my point is we obviously bat very deep when it comes to midfielders, and for that reason i'd trade Sidebottom, Essendon would give up their first rounder IMO and that first rounder and next years second would go a very long way in landing Lever, and we'd still get to keep our own first rounder.

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Is it just me or has our midfield looked better since Pendles was injured? I'm not suggesting we trade Pendles but my point is we obviously bat very deep when it comes to midfielders, and for that reason i'd trade Sidebottom, Essendon would give up their first rounder IMO and that first rounder and next years second would go a very long way in landing Lever, and we'd still get to keep out our first rounder.

Its an interesting point, and one i can't really disagree with.
Im a little conflicted on Sidey. I just think he's a very, very good player who has just never taken that next step. Maybe he was always overshadowed by Swan, Beams and Pendles, and now that is transitioninh to Treloar and Adams? Maybe its just his (perceived?) inconsistency or being perceived as less damaging?

Personally I would rather keep him. I just feel like maybe he does a lot more, or means alot more to the club than we realise?
But yeah, for a top 8 pick? You'd have to think about it.

 

[Dynamics]

I know a lot of you follow football in general much more closely than I do. I just follow Collingwood.
But even with my less than knowledgeable mind I can come up with the conclusion that many of you are brain dead.
2 years ago everyone was willing to throw our next 20 years of first rounders plus Victoria Park plus an open cheque book plus our wives and children if it meant we could get Cameron. Apparently he was the greatest footballer that was ever going to play the game. Now you numskulls want to do the same thing with Lever or Lynch. Just for your info Lynch averages less than 2 goals a game. Lever is a guy who has shown some potential. That's it.
What happened to Cameron. Not so long ago you all thought that he was the be all and end all, just like your all doing now with Lever and Lynch.
Why aren't you all so enthusiastic about Hawkins. He averages more goals than Lynch.

What happened to Jeremy Cameron? He signed a 5 year deal with GWS that started in 2016. He's not available.

 

[Scodog10]

I know a lot of you follow football in general much more closely than I do. I just follow Collingwood.
But even with my less than knowledgeable mind I can come up with the conclusion that many of you are brain dead.
2 years ago everyone was willing to throw our next 20 years of first rounders plus Victoria Park plus an open cheque book plus our wives and children if it meant we could get Cameron. Apparently he was the greatest footballer that was ever going to play the game. Now you numskulls want to do the same thing with Lever or Lynch. Just for your info Lynch averages less than 2 goals a game. Lever is a guy who has shown some potential. That's it.
What happened to Cameron. Not so long ago you all thought that he was the be all and end all, just like your all doing now with Lever and Lynch.
Why aren't you all so enthusiastic about Hawkins. He averages more goals than Lynch.

Perhaps it's the thrill of the chase Otto? Earlier this year someone speculated on two firsts for Schache. At one time I was reasonably optimistic about Weideman and thought he might be worth a mid-late first, but he just hasn't come on at all in the second half of 2017. By now he should be at least showing something.

Like you I'm not keen on Lever because he doesn't obviously improve us so the price needs to be bang on. The key difference, IMO, is that both Cameron and Lynch definitely would. Cameron's impact has been blunted by the progression of Patton so at Collingwood he would become the man again. Whilst Lynch is the opposite. Struggling with being a one man band because Wright isn't a great foil and they have no one else. I think it's also a bit tough to use a blanket goal average across Lynch's career because his first three seasons went at .9 goals and his past 4 at 2.4. We definitely aren't recruiting the .9 goal a game player so his numbers are fine.

They're interesting names Cameron and Lynch because they both fit different a type of forward line. As to who fits ours best I think an argument could be made for either.

I'm on board with a move on Lynch, but if we make it for say JDG or Steele + 6 we have to have a guy the quality of Rockliff or Ablett lined up out the other end, IMO. Ideally Rockliff as a FA would be my aim, but perhaps Fas>Darling>Ablett with picks to balance it out if Fas wants out. A lot of this is pie in the sky obviously, but we need a circuit breaker if we're sticking with our dreadful FD heads (Walsh aside).

Edit: wooo 10,000 posts before the H&A season is done. What a marvellous time to be a Collingwood supporter

 

[doodles98]

I know a lot of you follow football in general much more closely than I do. I just follow Collingwood.
But even with my less than knowledgeable mind I can come up with the conclusion that many of you are brain dead.
2 years ago everyone was willing to throw our next 20 years of first rounders plus Victoria Park plus an open cheque book plus our wives and children if it meant we could get Cameron. Apparently he was the greatest footballer that was ever going to play the game. Now you numskulls want to do the same thing with Lever or Lynch. Just for your info Lynch averages less than 2 goals a game. Lever is a guy who has shown some potential. That's it.
What happened to Cameron. Not so long ago you all thought that he was the be all and end all, just like your all doing now with Lever and Lynch.
Why aren't you all so enthusiastic about Hawkins. He averages more goals than Lynch.

The scary thing is that all us brain dead numskull Bigfooty posters seem to make better decisions than the club half the time. At least none of us are advocating for Blair to be our CHF.

 

[partypie]

one Taylor, Adams.

I blame footywire (and posting on mobile just before hitting the sack) - should be in the midfield group where he's easy to find!

I agree though that Adams is a birder line A-grade (definitely B-geade) midfielder for the next 8-9 years.

Sidey will be turning 27 next year - I can't see him going much beyond age 32 with all the gut running he does.

 

[partypie]

Did you delist Adams

Yeah shipping him off as the steak knives in the Pendlebury deal in a complicated 4-way trade so that we can bring back Freeman and BenKen to bolster our flagging midfield, Vickery to help out up forward and Zac Dawson down back...

 

[Apex36]

The scary thing is that all us brain dead numskull Bigfooty posters seem to make better decisions than the club half the time. At least none of us are advocating for Blair to be our CHF.

I'm looking forward to watching Tom Langdon the CHB this week

 

[Apex36]

I blame footywire (and posting on mobile just before hitting the sack) - should be in the midfield group where he's easy to find!

I agree though that Adams is a birder line A-grade (definitely B-geade) midfielder for the next 8-9 years.

Sidey will be turning 27 next year - I can't see him going much beyond age 32 with all the gut running he does.

Buckley went to 35 and he was one of the best gut runners I've ever seen. Would have gone another couple of years if his dodgy hamstrings didn't get the better of him imo.

 

[partypie]

I agree that DeGoey will be the cornerstone of our midfield over the next 8-9 years. Having said that our list is unbalanced. Would you consider trading some of our older midfielders out to cover some of our deficiencies?

It would work in fantasy footy, but clubs don't give up potential 10 year key position players for anything really.

We'll have to address those needs via the draft(s) and perhaps some shrewd late pick trades / FA pick ups.

 

[doppleganger]

I'm looking forward to watching Tom Langdon the CHB this week

Think it was an attacking move by the match committee.

Geelong have no Hawkins, or Blicsavs and Stanley was an out.

They have Harry, who Dunn will take, and then a big lump of a kid in Buzza.

The safe option would be to bring in a guy like Keeffe to replace Goldy and cover Buzza, but I like that they will back in the collective of Langdon, Howe and 'Berg to try and cover Buzza but then hopefully run and create going the other way.

Say stick an undersized Langdon on him, but Howe plays loose and will back himself in to give an aerial contest to support Langdon. Then once it hits the deck, off we go.

If we are really getting exposed, cant see it happening, could throw Reid back and shift Howe forward.

 

[DaVe86]

I think we have a few deficiencies in our list, but for me there's no doubt that we need to focus on our key position depth first and foremost.

I'm happy to make a play for Lever, because it will at least allow us to keep Reid forward. But realistically I want to be looking at our forward line. I would still ideally like Ben Reid in defence because I still think it's his best position. Plus, he is pushing 30 now so we really need to start building depth in that area.

I still think we need a good back pocket, a good crumbing forward and a wingman. But all that can come in time. For now, we just need to recruit the best key position player we can. Whether that be through the draft or trade.

 

[doodles98]

Yeah shipping him off as the steak knives in the Pendlebury deal in a complicated 4-way trade so that we can bring back Freeman and BenKen to bolster our flagging midfield, Vickery to help out up forward and Zac Dawson down back...

We'd need to get our master negotiator Gubby back to pull off a deal that good.

 

[jjsmitty8]

If Chris Yarran had his off field issues sorted, i'd absolutely throw him a lifeline.

 

[Scodog10]

As an aside. Our midfield is absolutely stacked for now and the future. If you're even remotely interested in adding guys to that area of the ground you'll find a good one every 3-4 years.

In the 22-28 age bracket we have at least one star mid and another who I think could be argued is a star by position. We then have another two guys who are above average. In the U22 age bracket we also have another star in the making and above average player. We actually have the reverse issue currently where we have too much quality to give time to others to develop. A guy like Scharenberg may have midfield potential, but as it stands we just aren't in a position to find out at AFL level. Crisp is a decent role playing mid forced out of that core group. Fixing our stoppage structure and tendency to overpossess will go a long way toward solving our short term issues.

Depending on us not losing our heads at the trade table or pushing quality mids out we could go the next three drafts without targeting mids and still be reasonably placed, IMO.

 

[Soups]

I think we have a few deficiencies in our list, but for me there's no doubt that we need to focus on our key position depth first and foremost.

I'm happy to make a play for Lever, because it will at least allow us to keep Reid forward. But realistically I want to be looking at our forward line. I would still ideally like Ben Reid in defence because I still think it's his best position. Plus, he is pushing 30 now so we really need to start building depth in that area.

I still think we need a good back pocket, a good crumbing forward and a wingman. But all that can come in time. For now, we just need to recruit the best key position player we can. Whether that be through the draft or trade.

Keeping Reid forward for say the next 2-3 years will be vital if we snag Lever. Next year is where we are going to pick up the forward we have all been waiting for (please keep our first round). If we manage to draft one of the King twins or Lukosius from SA with their ability I think they will be able to play a forward role for us in the next couple of years. The other dream would be snagging Lynch.

There are a few good back pockets floating around this year and one of them has played in the VFL the last two games (Paton) definitely worth a look. Crumbling forward role will be taken by Kirbs hopefully.