List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2020

[Kappa]

I think there's a serious opportunity for Collingwood to take a big step and recruit somebody great with both Langdon's and Beams' futures clouded. Beams' pay-out is inevitable and Langdon cruelly, will likely need to retire. Those two carry big salaries, and can leave us with enough to keep the rest of our squad together during the salary cap squeeze that will happen at every club due to the virus, and if the club are smart, could potentially open some doors to recruiting players that fall through the cracks at other clubs.

But,

There's really no reason for Daniher to cross town to another club. If he wants to escape the scrutiny he's always under and leave the constant spotlight, he'll take an offer at Sydney or Brisbane or the like, if he wants to stay in Vic and play for a big club that will pay him well, he'll stay at Essendon. He'd be pretty amazing for us but we'd probably never get him perfectly fit and he'll command a salary that we won't be able to throw around. Imagine a Daniher playing for Collingwood though, it would be incredible and he'd be amazing at centre half-forward.

Cameron is the ultimate pipe dream that I refuse to follow until there's more information released. By all means, he does and has always loved GWS and wants to continue playing on there. Of course, all contracts will be affected by coronavirus and he'll likely find he won't be able to get as much as he was bound to before, but I think the Giants will move heaven and earth in order to keep him there, even if it means dumping another gun or two.

Our salary cap is at breaking point and we still need to find a shit load of money for Moore and De Goey who will both demand massive contracts.

There's no chance we have room to get a big fish unless we lose someone

 

[adammania9]

Our salary cap is at breaking point and we still need to find a shit load of money for Moore and De Goey who will both demand massive contracts.

There's no chance we have room to get a big fish unless we lose someone

Not necessarily. As I said, Beams and Langdon both carry big salaries and may both be paid out early. There could definitely be some left to play ball with.

 

[Kappa]

Not necessarily. As I said, Beams and Langdon both carry big salaries and may both be paid out early. There could definitely be some left to play ball with.

How much do you think Langdon is on? Beams is reportable on around 400k, close to afl average not a big contract like Pendles or Grundy. Langdon isn't going to be on that much

 

[adammania9]

How much do you think Langdon is on? Beams is reportable on around 400k, close to afl average not a big contract like Pendles or Grundy. Langdon isn't going to be on that much

Langdon knocked back a reported $600k a year offer from Sydney to stay. He’s certainly not on chips. Beams is supposedly $500k. They’d be approaching a million between them. Moore and De Goey aren’t going to get near a million extra between them.

 

[Kappa]

Langdon knocked back a reported $600k a year offer from Sydney to stay. He’s certainly not on chips. Beams is supposedly $500k. They’d be approaching a million between them. Moore and De Goey aren’t going to get near a million extra between them.

Moore and De Goey weren't anywhere near superstar status last time they signed their contracts, they could easily go from 300/400k to 800/900k depending on how the salary cap looks.

I highly doubt Langdon was offered 600k, and that he refused that. That would make him one of the highest paid players at Sydney... He's good, but not top 5 players on a list good. Also not a KPP player or elite midfielder, who the big cash is normally reserved for.

 

[mike123]

Why are Gibbs and Kelly on the list?

 

[TradeDraft]

Langdon knocked back a reported $600k a year offer from Sydney to stay. He’s certainly not on chips. Beams is supposedly $500k. They’d be approaching a million between them. Moore and De Goey aren’t going to get near a million extra between them.

They won't now after the Pandemic

 

[35Daicos]

Why are Gibbs and Kelly on the list?

It's a pretty odd list, I must say, and it does look strange having those two on it! The clubs that (ultimately) recruited Gibbs and Kelly had tried in the past to land them, but missed out, when they may have thought they'd get them, so that would be why they're there. Couldn't they come up with someone more recent than Jonathan Brown for us, the same with Richmond and Lockett, and anyone more high profile than Mark Alvey (who did make it to Essendon) and Matthew Lobbe for those other clubs?!

 

[Soups]

Why are Gibbs and Kelly on the list?

I saw on Facebook someone commented the same thing and Foxsports replied saying read the article. Seeing as their more into women’s day type articles i’m not surprised it wasn’t read.

Mark Alvey though that’s the interesting name on there I would have thought.

 

[sr36]

It's a pretty odd list, I must say, and it does look strange having those two on it! The clubs that (ultimately) recruited Gibbs and Kelly had tried in the past to land them, but missed out, when they may have thought they'd get them, so that would be why they're there. Couldn't they come up with someone more recent than Jonathan Brown for us, the same with Richmond and Lockett, and anyone more high profile than Mark Alvey (who did make it to Essendon) and Matthew Lobbe for those other clubs?!

Mark Alvey and Matthew Lobbe did make me laugh.

 

[adammania9]

Moore and De Goey weren't anywhere near superstar status last time they signed their contracts, they could easily go from 300/400k to 800/900k depending on how the salary cap looks.

I highly doubt Langdon was offered 600k, and that he refused that. That would make him one of the highest paid players at Sydney... He's good, but not top 5 players on a list good. Also not a KPP player or elite midfielder, who the big cash is normally reserved for.

De Goey signed in 2018, the year he broke out and reportedly had a $1 million a season offer from North Melbourne. He didn’t re-sign for less than half that, no chance at all. Moore also signed in 2018 following strong interest from Sydney. He’d be in line for a bigger pay raise than De Goey, but again I massively doubt he stayed for only 300-400k a season.

 

[TradeDraft]

De Goey signed in 2018, the year he broke out and reportedly had a $1 million a season offer from North Melbourne. He didn’t re-sign for less than half that, no chance at all. Moore also signed in 2018 following strong interest from Sydney. He’d be in line for a bigger pay raise than De Goey, but again I massively doubt he stayed for only 300-400k a season.

That might be a Bigger Contract with Salary Caps getting Smaller

 

[legendstatus]

If a big fish wanted to go to Collingwood, as sure as night follows day, we would make room for him!


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[mike123]

I saw on Facebook someone commented the same thing and Foxsports replied saying read the article. Seeing as their more into women’s day type articles i’m not surprised it wasn’t read.

Mark Alvey though that’s the interesting name on there I would have thought.

I read the article and it’s a cop out.

 

[Apex36]

Moore and De Goey weren't anywhere near superstar status last time they signed their contracts, they could easily go from 300/400k to 800/900k depending on how the salary cap looks.

I highly doubt Langdon was offered 600k, and that he refused that. That would make him one of the highest paid players at Sydney... He's good, but not top 5 players on a list good. Also not a KPP player or elite midfielder, who the big cash is normally reserved for.

DeGoey is already reportedly on circa $800k per year. He knocked back an offer of $1m a year from north on his last contract. He wasn’t going to do that to play for an average wage at Collingwood.

 

[Kappa]

DeGoey is already reportedly on circa $800k per year. He knocked back an offer of $1m a year from north on his last contract. He wasn’t going to do that to play for an average wage at Collingwood.

Yeah that's true, point still stands though, I don't think we can afford anyone big if we keep Moore and Degoey.

 

[soreplums]

DeGoey is already reportedly on circa $800k per year. He knocked back an offer of $1m a year from north on his last contract. He wasn’t going to do that to play for an average wage at Collingwood.

How much of an increase do we think JDG and Moore are worth given their current contract status?

If JDG is in 800k already, is 200k increase enough?

What’s Moore on? 500k? Is 300k enough?

 

[jackcass]

Why are Gibbs and Kelly on the list?

Crows and Eagles both tried to land the respective player the year before the actual trade was eventually done.

 

[Johno9911]

How much of an increase do we think JDG and Moore are worth given their current contract status?

If JDG is in 800k already, is 200k increase enough?

What’s Moore on? 500k? Is 300k enough?

If De Goey is already on $800k I wouldn't be inclined to offer him another $200k. $1m for a player you can't lock confidently lock in for at least 20+ games a season seems overs. I think I'd be offering $800k again with some lucrative contracted bonuses and incentives.
I think Moore would be on around $450-550k, anywhere in that bracket, and I think adding $250k on top of that puts him in a reasonable range of $700-$800k. If we got those deals across the line we'd of only used about $250k of Langdon/Beams approx $850-$900k a season meaning we have cap to use.

But this could all mean squat until we know more about the reduced list sizes. If we go down to 35 players on a list, are the clubs free to use the cap freed up by the exiting 9/10 players? Or will the salary cap be reduced along with the list size?

 

[jackcass]

If De Goey is already on $800k I wouldn't be inclined to offer him another $200k. $1m for a player you can't lock confidently lock in for at least 20+ games a season seems overs. I think I'd be offering $800k again with some lucrative contracted bonuses and incentives.
I think Moore would be on around $450-550k, anywhere in that bracket, and I think adding $250k on top of that puts him in a reasonable range of $700-$800k. If we got those deals across the line we'd of only used about $250k of Langdon/Beams approx $850-$900k a season meaning we have cap to use.

But this could all mean squat until we know more about the reduced list sizes. If we go down to 35 players on a list, are the clubs free to use the cap freed up by the exiting 9/10 players? Or will the salary cap be reduced along with the list size?

I'd doubt JDG is on any more than $600-650k at the moment. Yes he had a reported long term $1m deal on the table from the Roos but again I'd have thought that was highly unlikely to be a flat line equal amounts each year, more likely a bell curve of some nature that averaged out at $1m a year.

 

[Johno9911]

I'd doubt JDG is on any more than $600-650k at the moment. Yes he had a long term $1m deal on the table from the Roos but again I'd have thought that was highly unlikely to be a flat line equal amounts each year, more likely a bell curve of some nature that averaged out at $1m a year.

I agree that I don't think he'd be quite on $800k, anywhere between $600-700k I think would be the closer mark. Do you think offering him about $100k more to get him to that $800k bracket would be a fair deal for him given his injury history, with an option to extend for more pending criteria like games played etc?

 

[jackcass]

I agree that I don't think he'd be quite on $800k, anywhere between $600-700k I think would be the closer mark. Do you think offering him about $100k more to get him to that $800k bracket would be a fair deal for him given his injury history, with an option to extend for more pending criteria like games played etc?

I'd imagine he'd be looking for a longer term deal that'd peak somewhere in that $800k-$1m range in a couple of years when he's (hopefully) hitting his prime.

What that might now look like post CV19 is anyone's guess.

 

[BEEG]

Hearing Sydney are going to make a big splash looking to get Daniher and Degoey in this off season.

 

[vicparksfinest]

Hearing Sydney are going to make a big splash looking to get Daniher and Degoey in this off season.

Doubt DeGoey leaves but, Papley and top 10 pick would be about fair

 

[BEEG]

Doubt DeGoey leaves but, Papley and top 10 pick would be about fair

I don't think he will either but Swans are going to offer big coin.