List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2020

[sr36]

He's seriously average

Might be a reason he wasn't picked up earlier
Not enough tricks
Far too small
Not daring enough
He ain't Caleb daniels with his disposal
Not super 1 on 1
Huge weakness amongst many orhers

All I can say is if you think nobles the answer
Or do you accept meduocrity
your delusional if you think nobles quicker than hunt
Hunts a much much better player

Here's a thought igot someone else better out of contract seemingly on the outer who can step in and fill a wing ,a hff or a HBFkeep in mind has to be under
$300k a year
Has to be able to be obtained for less than a second rounder
Got a idea (any)
I've given mine

PS sa footys a long way away from AFL wing in sa footy ,too small for wing in AFL
So good he got passed over by how many clubs
How many times

Yeah nobles the answer

We obviously see Noble very differently. Yes his size is a negative, but I see a fantastic runner who is clean quick and smart, who goes when it's his turn. I don't think you need any more tricks than that. Think he'll be a long termer and I couldn't care less that he was a late developer who didn't get drafted until his early 20s. Heaps in the same boat become very good players, which I think he will become.

 

[Darkyprotector]

Haaaa Jayden Hunt exactly what we need, breaks lines perfect!!! But then turns it over by foot constantly, can't defend to save his life and goes missing for large chunks of games, so how do you expect him to buy into our defence first mentality if all he does is run forward of the footy? Horrible acquisition.

Gee fit right in and would be a improvement on quite a few on our list , speed wise and disposal
You have been watching?

Best 22 straight away on what he's shown in the past
Maynard sucked initially

You know it's the list right
It's so unbalanced
He wants out
We should investigate

REPEAT WE HAVE NO TRADING CURRENCY
WW HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER

 

[Darkyprotector]

How is it reasonable to cut a teenager (Atu) and a 20 year-old (Tohill)? Is this because of your vendetta against players new to AFL?

Delisting guys like Phillips is also foolish, considering he almost certainly has trade value

I'm actually a friend of atus grand mother and grand father
He's not going to make it
If the list goes back to 35
There's going to be a lot of guys looking for gigs
Tohill isn't going to make it
If that's the case (more likely than not)
Out of our talks 4 have to go due to balance
Reid
Dunn

You pick
Kelly Cameron Cox Keene roughhead Moore Grundy Lynch tohill

Now Kelly Moore Roughead Grundy speak for themselves
Lynch and Cameron second rucks
So 2 out of Keene ,Cox and tohill
Me I went Cox and tohill

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

If you mean Paddy McCartin, he is one minor head knock away from half a season on the sidelines and one decent head knock away from the end of his career.
I wish the poor guy well, he’s a talent, but way too risky for us to punt on. That said, I note you did mention to rookie listing him. I just don’t see we’ll be able to keep him on the park.

Correct, l did mention give him a preseason with us and if he is fit and feeling good, rookie list him.
He has been given the all clear by his medical team to resume a career in footy. He himself is feeling good and fit, so why wouldn't you give a former No. 1 draft pick an opportunity, also considering he is a KPP.

 

[gouki88]

I'm actually a friend of atus grand mother and grand father
He's not going to make it
If the list goes back to 35
There's going to be a lot of guys looking for gigs
Tohill isn't going to make it
If that's the case (more likely than not)
Out of our talks 4 have to go due to balance
Reid
Dunn

You pick
Kelly Cameron Cox Keene roughhead Moore Grundy Lynch tohill

Now Kelly Moore Roughead Grundy speak for themselves
Lynch and Cameron second rucks
So 2 out of Keene ,Cox and tohill
Me I went Cox and tohill

I don't think Cox is looking at ever playing for us again, so I don't think he stays

 

[Darkyprotector]

We obviously see Noble very differently. Yes his size is a negative, but I see a fantastic runner who is clean quick and smart, who goes when it's his turn. I don't think you need any more tricks than that. Think he'll be a long termer and I couldn't care less that he was a late developer who didn't get drafted until his early 20s. Heaps in the same boat become very good players, which I think he will become.

The problem with this site is
Shooting down suggestions without alternatives
Who said noble wasn't worth keeping
Depth player
You pick hunt up for Varcoe
And we beg to differ he's adequate but hardly the answer
Like Thomas
Like Blairl
Like Shazl
Like Phillips
Mayne and Varcoe are cooked ( both best 22)


Everyone tells me wills can't play ( currently best 22)
I think Thomas ,Phillips (best 22) go as well

We aren't that good to carry so many passengers

 

[Darkyprotector]

I don't think Cox is looking at ever playing for us again, so I don't think he stays

Yep
Which is why I listed him as well as see you later

 

[jackcass]

What would you offer for 30 year old and a 29 year old? I assume the Hawks will be after a 1st round pick as they start their rebuild

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Both contracted for 2021 (Gunston till 2022) so unless the Dawks are offering a Mitchell/Lewis/Hodge type player dump for peanuts then they're hardly worth selling the house over.

 

[jackcass]

I would love Harry Perryman. He’s underrated. Can play him anywhere. The type of player who would leave the Giants too. Medium sized player who will thrive elsewhere.

Underrated by whom?

 

[sr36]

I'm actually a friend of atus grand mother and grand father
He's not going to make it
If the list goes back to 35
There's going to be a lot of guys looking for gigs
Tohill isn't going to make it
If that's the case (more likely than not)
Out of our talks 4 have to go due to balance
Reid
Dunn

You pick
Kelly Cameron Cox Keene roughhead Moore Grundy Lynch tohill

Now Kelly Moore Roughead Grundy speak for themselves
Lynch and Cameron second rucks
So 2 out of Keene ,Cox and tohill
Me I went Cox and tohill

It depends if there are changes to cat b rules. If nothing changes regarding cat b, there's no reason to jettision Tohill for list balance as he's a bonus player who sits outside of the list. I've never seen him play, so have no idea whether he's a keeper or not.

 

[Darkyprotector]

Everyone criticising Grundy, whilst I know AFL fantasy isn’t be all end all, it’s still pretty accurate to how good a player has been.

current AFL fantasy leaderboard:

1. Neale. he is 100% clear Brownlow favourite this year, killing it.

2. who’s 2 you ask? Oh Brodie Grundy.

Stat padding at its finest tapping it to yourself
How many points for a centre clearance with a hack kick forward to a undersized forward line

Yep good indicator

 

[Darkyprotector]

It depends if there are changes to cat b rules. If nothing changes regarding cat b, there's no reason to jettision Tohill for list balance as he's a bonus player who sits outside of the list. I've never seen him play, so have no idea whether he's a keeper or not.

I've seen him 5 times
Athletic
Don't think cat vs will be as easy going forward
We have magden Wilson and him
1 too many maybe

 

[No SPIN]

He's seriously average

Might be a reason he wasn't picked up earlier
Not enough tricks
Far too small
Not daring enough
He ain't Caleb daniels with his disposal
Not super 1 on 1
Huge weakness amongst many orhers

All I can say is if you think nobles the answer
Or do you accept meduocrity
your delusional if you think nobles quicker than hunt
Hunts a much much better player

Here's a thought igot someone else better out of contract seemingly on the outer who can step in and fill a wing ,a hff or a HBFkeep in mind has to be under
$300k a year
Has to be able to be obtained for less than a second rounder
Got a idea (any)
I've given mine

PS sa footys a long way away from AFL wing in sa footy ,too small for wing in AFL
So good he got passed over by how many clubs
How many times

Yeah nobles the answer

Not Caleb Daniel with his disposal you say. As if CD’s rating is far superior.
Not really according to Footywire - CD 84% and JN 78%
JN has line breaking speed, can kick effectively both sides and is a good size at 180cm. He needs more bulk of course but has been a great pick up.
If he adds 6-7kg he will be an excellent player.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Underrated by whom?

He never gets the praise he deserves since he’s playing with “superstars”.

He was leading the Coleman after the first 4 rounds. He plays predominantly on the wing.

Compare his stats to Brad Hill’s.

Perryman averages more:
Disposals
Goal
Tackles
Rebound 50
Contested & uncontested
Intercepts
Marks
Meters gained
Clearances

Hill spoken about as a great wingman. Perryman is playing better this year.

 

[No SPIN]

Correct, l did mention give him a preseason with us and if he is fit and feeling good, rookie list him.
He has been given the all clear by his medical team to resume a career in footy. He himself is feeling good and fit, so why wouldn't you give a former No. 1 draft pick an opportunity, also considering he is a KPP.

Sadly there are guys who have an inherent susceptibility to certain injuries McCartin with concussion is one. Some of the innocuous hits that have seen him injured have been surprising.
Then you look at Mihocek, by comparison- a massive hit and no concussion. I don’t even want to contemplate what a hit like that would have done to McCartin.
He should retire because sadly his body is not made for our game unfortunately.

 

[gouki88]

He never gets the praise he deserves since he’s playing with “superstars”.

He was leading the Coleman after the first 4 rounds. He plays predominantly on the wing.

Compare his stats to Brad Hill’s.

Perryman averages more:
Disposals
Goal
Tackles
Rebound 50
Contested & uncontested
Intercepts
Marks
Meters gained
Clearances

Hill spoken about as a great wingman. Perryman is playing better this year.

He'd be a good get, but is he even available?

 

[Johno9911]

I was thinking of players who are cheap and would help our team in the short term.

- Shane Savage. He’ll be 30 next year. He could play on the wing. He’s a great kick. Varcoe replacement.

- Harry Perryman. He can play anywhere. He’s a good kick too. Mayne replacement.

- Levi Casboult. We need to put a 2 year contract in front of him. He’s exactly what we need in the forward line. Reid & Cox replacement.

- Charlie Spargo. Small forward. Can replace JT, WHE or Brown.

- Riley Collier Dawkins. Inside mid. He could easily replace Wills & Sier.

These are players who wouldn’t demand too much money or cost too much in trade.

I think we've missed the boat on Levi, 30 by the time season 2021 rolls around so a two year deal for him carries a fair bit of risk. If we end up moving on a couple of our 30+ brigade (Reid, Dunn, Varcoe) then maybe, if not I would worry about adding another 30 year old who would be starting to decline to our list.

Spargo, while I think he's a good player, isn't the type of small forward we need. He projects a bit like a JT in that he's a small forward but more suited to the midfield but either not big enough or have enough tools to be a permanent fixture in a midfield group. Lonie I think is the small forward we should be targeting, clever at ground level and gets front and center consistently.

Good calls on the those in bold though imo. I was a huge Perryman fan in his draft year and you're right he would be a great addition to our side, has the right tools and would be great replacement/upgrade on Mayne, can go through the middle, out on a wing or i50 comfortably. What would he cost though?
RCD would be a great get for our midfield, big unit that's clean in the contest and at only 20 is still developing and growing. I doubt Richmond let him go, think they would have the likes of him, Ross etc marked as their future after Cotchin, Martin etc. With Reef on the way I wouldn't go after RCD to hard, would rather address one or two other areas, unless he nominated us and was pushing for a move himself.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

He'd be a good get, but is he even available?

Yup, he’s OOC. Would need to be a decent offer. GWS have to try and keep Cameron, Finlayson & Willams this year.

That doesn’t include Hately or Caldwell who are OOC too.

 

[DaVe86]

Merely mentioning the name for discussion....but Paddy McCartin?? Commented today that he is fit and ready to go again. Will probably put himself into the draft. This was a guy rated above Petracca!

Personally, I don't think I could live with another injury prone key forward. I think if we were able to secure someone like Ben Brown, then perhaps getting a rookie spot for McCartin could be a good option with upside. But I wouldn't be recruiting him alone thinking he'd be the savior. You'd need someone else as well. If list sizes are cut-back, I'd be steering away from injury prone players though.

 

[gouki88]

Yup, he’s OOC. Would need to be a decent offer. GWS have to try and keep Cameron, Finlayson & Willams this year.

That doesn’t include Hately or Caldwell who are OOC too.

Wonder what we have to throw at him money wise. I'd like him for sure.

 

[Silky23]

If people think we can get Perryman on the cheap you’ve lost the plot.

Giants know his worth, no chance he comes cheap.

I’d rather Hately for a bag of chips.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

I think we've missed the boat on Levi, 30 by the time season 2021 rolls around so a two year deal for him carries a fair bit of risk. If we end up moving on a couple of our 30+ brigade (Reid, Dunn, Varcoe) then maybe, if not I would worry about adding another 30 year old who would be starting to decline to our list.

Spargo, while I think he's a good player, isn't the type of small forward we need. He projects a bit like a JT in that he's a small forward but more suited to the midfield but either not big enough or have enough tools to be a permanent fixture in a midfield group. Lonie I think is the small forward we should be targeting, clever at ground level and gets front and center consistently.

Good calls on the those in bold though imo. I was a huge Perryman fan in his draft year and you're right he would be a great addition to our side, has the right tools and would be great replacement/upgrade on Mayne, can go through the middle, out on a wing or i50 comfortably. What would he cost though?
RCD would be a great get for our midfield, big unit that's clean in the contest and at only 20 is still developing and growing. I doubt Richmond let him go, think they would have the likes of him, Ross etc marked as their future after Cotchin, Martin etc. With Reef on the way I wouldn't go after RCD to hard, would rather address one or two other areas, unless he nominated us and was pushing for a move himself.

Levi is a bit on the older side. However, you’re right, he’s only worth it if we drop a few of our pensioners. Reid, Dunn & Varcoe should not get contracts next year. Cox is on thin ice too. So we do need mature KPPs to replace Cox, Reid & Dunn.

Agree, Spargo does project similar to JT. However, he seems a more natural crumber. We don’t have that in our team at the moment. I do agree Lonie though.

Probably a pick in the 20’s. If we could trade phillips, and use his pick and upgrade to Perryman. We will be a much better team.

RCD is OOC. He was mad at the end of last year because he didn’t get a game. He would be Even more Mad that he hasn’t gotten a game in a compressed season with cotchin, Prestia and Edwards missing games.
RCD would fit us perfectly IMO.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

If people think we can get Perryman on the cheap you’ve lost the plot.

Giants know his worth, no chance he comes cheap.

I’d rather Hately for a bag of chips.

Perryman for an early 2nd round pick.
Don’t think that’s unfair.

Brad Hill’ considered the best wingman in the league.
He was traded twice.
-pick 25 to hawks
- Pick 10 to freo (complicated trade involved Blake Acres


Don’t think Perryman is worth pick 10.

 

[stormskye]

Stat padding at its finest tapping it to yourself
How many points for a centre clearance with a hack kick forward to a undersized forward line

Yep good indicator

Considering the bloke leading Brownlow is in top in fantasy I’d say it’s a decent indicator. Grundy has been playing well, just not his 2018, Standards. Given our fixture happy to cut him some slack unlike many in here. He’s not our issue

 

[gouki88]

Considering the bloke leading Brownlow is in top in fantasy I’d say it’s a decent indicator. Grundy has been playing well, just not his 2018, Standards. Given our fixture happy to cut him some slack unlike many in here. He’s not our issue

This bloke thinks Jayden Hunt would be a walk-on best 22 player here, so taking his posts with a grain (or a kilo) of salt