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[Roughies Boys]

Colin Sylvia in Brown & Gold? Thoughts Hawk Supporters?

 

[Hodge is God]

Colin Sylvia in Brown & Gold? Thoughts Hawk Supporters?

He's 28 and is lazy and soft.

Pass.

 

[WWSD]

Colin Sylvia in Brown & Gold? Thoughts Hawk Supporters?

f*** no! There are only a small handful of Melbourne listed players that would get a game at Hawthorn. They are Jeromy Howe, Nathan Jones and James Frawley. That's about it.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Why would anyone bring up Jack Watts? Which position do you suppose he play... seriously?

HBF? We have our HBF players & we certainly don't need him there... would rather Stratton named over Watts any day at Hawthorn, horrible decision makers Watts is. Forward... we've got enough talls & yet again Shem Tatupu... is coming!!!

Let someone like Fremantle or Carlton take him.

Colin Sylvia on the other hand... he actually is quite quick, but not the quickest, probably faster than Mitchell, Sewell, Hodge & Lewis... also has the ability to kick goals... he would kick more at a better side with quality players around him... obviously he needs to get to a team with a winning culture. Has a good built on him & at the age of 27 still has plenty of footy... could we see him peak in the Brown & Gold?

Laid off Adam Cooney after he came out & said he wants to be a life member at the Dogs.

Dale Thomas... is restricted & don't really like him, also asking price probably won't fit in the cap.

Heard the names Yarran & O'Brien come up... why do we need Yarran when we have got Hill? O'Brien would be dangerous in the Brown & Gold... but can't see it happening. Stephen Coniglio has re-signed with GWS, so forget about it & forget about trade baiting a player that has re-signed in Matthew Suckling.

Taylor Adams from GWS is a good target to have... even though our main threat is Melbourne (No winning culture) because they could make the better trade to GWS & probably give the better offer to Adams. But we are in with a chance.

 

[Roughies Boys]

He's 28 and is lazy and soft.

Pass.

27... lazy? How is he lazy if the ball ain't in his territory, & he's been averaging 19.9 disposals this year... He does not have the quality players around him...

 

[Roughies Boys]

f*** no! There are only a small handful of Melbourne listed players that would get a game at Hawthorn. They are Jeromy Howe, Nathan Jones and James Frawley. That's about it.

You are very one minded... if you are rating players on how they perform at their current club. Nathan Jones would be a horrible pick up. We have enough same leg paced players at Hawthorn. Jeremy Howe & James Frawley... just don't worry about them.

Jeremy Howe - You'll have to trade heaps to get him.
James Frawley will be a free agent... but will stay at Melbourne anyway. Cause Melbourne can outbid anyone when he is a free agent next year

 

[Hodge is God]

27... lazy? How is he lazy if the ball ain't in his territory, & he's been averaging 19.9 disposals this year... He does not have the quality players around him...

28 in a couple of months, sorry.

Sylvia is, perhaps, one of the most talented players in the comp he just doesn't put in the hard yards to exploit his talent to the world. Just ask any Demon fan, I'm sure they will agree with me.

Why waste our time and energy on a 28 (sorry 27 yr and 10mth) old player when we need to be focusing on the younger generation ready to take over from Mitch, Taz, Sewelly and Hodgey?

 

[Roughies Boys]

28 in a couple of months, sorry.

Sylvia is, perhaps, one of the most talented players in the comp he just doesn't put in the hard yards to exploit his talent to the world. Just ask any Demon fan, I'm sure they will agree with me.

Why waste our time and energy on a 28 (sorry 27 yr and 10mth) old player when we need to be focusing on the younger generation ready to take over from Mitch, Taz, Sewelly and Hodgey?

We have them young players already... Hallahan, Anderson, Woodward... Hopefully Taylor Adams if we can snap a deal. Colin Sylvia is just the cherry on top for free... cause if he decided to come he would take a pay cut & it's different at Melbourne... Sylvia doesn't have to work hard to get a game in the seniors there... they don't have competition for spots like we do.

 

[xellis]

We have them young players already... Hallahan, Anderson, Woodward... Hopefully Taylor Adams if we can snap a deal. Colin Sylvia is just the cherry on top for free... cause if he decided to come he would take a pay cut & it's different at Melbourne... Sylvia doesn't have to work hard to get a game in the seniors there... they don't have competition for spots like we do.

You've included two guys who haven't played a game and one in Woodward who it would be an amazing effort just to play 1 senior game let alone rely upon them as our future midfield. And Adams, I think every other Melbourne club is keen on him so you would have to say we are unlikely to get him.

We don't have 'them young players already' at all.

 

[Roughies Boys]

You've included two guys who haven't played a game and one in Woodward who it would be an amazing effort just to play 1 senior game let alone rely upon them as our future midfield. And Adams, I think every other Melbourne club is keen on him so you would have to say we are unlikely to get him.

We don't have 'them young players already' at all.

Well we may aswell 5 new young midfielders... if you say it like that. Jed Anderson has played a game he's played a few... You think every club... well you're probably wrong at the moment, there's only been 4 reported.

You're to negative... Hallahan, Anderson & Woodward will potentially be our future midfield. If they aren't in the future why are they still on the list?

 

[Amos Frank]

honestly i dont think sylvia would be an awful pickup for us. I have always said that if he came to a club with a winning culture, a strict coach and surrounded by stars he would stop being so lazy. I thought early in the season that he would be an absolute gun at Collingwood off HFF and through the middle. Wouldn't mind him at the hawks.

 

[TheExtractorFactor]

Sylvia is the most pathetic type of footballer going round. The selfish, lazy yet talented type. He is one of the ones who start the season off poorly, then when their teams year is over and with only a few rounds left, they think 'shit id better start playing well or i wont get a new contract'. They start building and playing well in games that mean nothing and give the false impression that they have had a good year. We dont want players like that at Hawthorn.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

Sylvia is the most pathetic type of footballer going round. The selfish, lazy yet talented type. He is one of the ones who start the season off poorly, then when their teams year is over and with only a few rounds left, they think 'shit id better start playing well or i wont get a new contract'. They start building and playing well in games that mean nothing and give the false impression that they have had a good year. We dont want players like that at Hawthorn.

Sums up my thoughts aswell.

Doubt he would take a paycut to come to Hawthorn either. I am sure he is quite content earning good money with no expectations at Melbourne...

 

[Roughies Boys]

Sums up my thoughts aswell.

Doubt he would take a paycut to come to Hawthorn either. I am sure he is quite content earning good money with no expectations at Melbourne...

We will wait & see, cause you're obvs no Colin Sylvia

Sylvia is the most pathetic type of footballer going round. The selfish, lazy yet talented type. He is one of the ones who start the season off poorly, then when their teams year is over and with only a few rounds left, they think 'shit id better start playing well or i wont get a new contract'. They start building and playing well in games that mean nothing and give the false impression that they have had a good year. We dont want players like that at Hawthorn.

So he would do that at Hawthorn? pfft...

 

[Spanish Sahara]

We will wait & see, cause you're obvs no Colin Sylvia

Well that is obvious??

Anyway that is my opinion on Sylvia. Doesn't deliver consistent football and not worth the hype

 

[savagelunchbox]

We will wait & see, cause you're obvs no Colin Sylvia



So he would do that at Hawthorn? pfft...

So whose place in the side would he take if we traded for him and why would Clarko choose him, a synonymously inconsistent and lazy footballer, over a player whose playing in a successful side, has worked their ass off to get in the side and, most importantly, deserves their place in the side?

 

[Roughies Boys]

So whose place in the side would he take if we traded for him and why would Clarko choose him, a synonymously inconsistent and lazy footballer, over a player whose playing in a successful side, has worked their ass off to get in the side and, most importantly, deserves their place in the side?

Huh why trade? It's really up to him if he wants to be in our best 22 then he won't be allowed to be lazy, he would have to work for his spot... Clarko wouldn't allow him to be the same how he is at Melbourne.

 

[savagelunchbox]

Huh why trade? It's really up to him if he wants to be in our best 22 then he won't be allowed to be lazy, he would have to work for his spot... Clarko wouldn't allow him to be the same how he is at Melbourne.

Trade, free agent signing, whatever. You haven't answered my question, but to add another, why would we go get him if he's got a reputation as being one of the laziest footballers in the game and then not be allowed to be lazy or he's out of the side? Would be a big price to pay if the high risk doesn't pay off.

 

[eldorado]

Sylvia strikes me as someone who could be a completely transformed player in a side that wasn't so fundamentally shit. Very open to the idea... on free agency only, and less coin.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Trade, free agent signing, whatever. You haven't answered my question, but to add another, why would we go get him if he's got a reputation as being one of the laziest footballers in the game and then not be allowed to be lazy or he's out of the side? Would be a big price to pay if the high risk doesn't pay off.

Obviously Hawthorn & Sylvia would have to come to terms with each other... it would be either Sylvia takes a huge paycut to what he would be worth at our club or forget about it. It would be a more him wanting to come than an us chasing him. Far out... Colin Sylvia has been at Melbourne all his career so far, what he hasn't had is a proper pre-season, proper coaching.... etc... it's Melbourne's staff who I believe has made him lazy & the quality of players around him & them losing all the time doesn't help motivate players... I think competitions for spots would help him get to his full potential, about two years ago everyone was saying he will someday take the league by storm, he will not do that by staying at Melbourne. He needs the challenge of what a Premiership contender team has. It's not a high risk... if he doesn't perform he can go to BH... we can win without him, just saying if we added him it could just make us more dynamic & dangerous... he could be the Ryan O'Keefe we once looked for.

 

[The Kipster]

Would we have a need for jack watts ?

I believe the boot studder is under a lot of pressure come finals time, he could help out?

 

[savagelunchbox]

Obviously Hawthorn & Sylvia would have to come to terms with each other... it would be either Sylvia takes a huge paycut to what he would be worth at our club or forget about it. It would be a more him wanting to come than an us chasing him. Far out... Colin Sylvia has been at Melbourne all his career so far, what he hasn't had is a proper pre-season, proper coaching.... etc... it's Melbourne's staff who I believe has made him lazy & the quality of players around him & them losing all the time doesn't help motivate players... I think competitions for spots would help him get to his full potential, about two years ago everyone was saying he will someday take the league by storm, he will not do that by staying at Melbourne. He needs the challenge of what a Premiership contender team has. It's not a high risk... if he doesn't perform he can go to BH... we can win without him, just saying if we added him it could just make us more dynamic & dangerous... he could be the Ryan O'Keefe we once looked for.

This is lovely and all that and your paragraph usage and '...' usage are second to none, but you still haven't answered my question, who would he replace in the side and why would Clarko choose Sylvia over an already established player who has earned their spot in a perennial top 4 side? Is Sylvia that much better than who he would replace that the risk of his 'bad' side appearing be worth playing him for?

Don't ramble on, just answer those questions. I don't care what you think the coaches could do to him (key word is 'could') and I don't care what he needs to do to play for Hawthorn. All that is common knowledge and you don't need to type what is already known.

 

[cryptor]

If Sylvia was willing to work hard to get into and stay in a good team rather than just lazily get by on natural talent at a poor club then he'd have made the move already. But I'm sure the prospect of that sounds much better to him now a large pay cut is an option! Don't know how he could refuse!

 

[spudmaster]

Why do I feel every time we do a trade with Melbourne, box hill are the only ones who benefit from it?

 

[Roughies Boys]

If Sylvia was willing to work hard to get into and stay in a good team rather than just lazily get by on natural talent at a poor club then he'd have made the move already. But I'm sure the prospect of that sounds much better to him now a large pay cut is an option! Don't know how he could refuse!

Obvious sarcasm by you, don't you remember about three years ago people we're actually getting excited about Melbourne? Sylvia had re-signed then... he could probably see light at the end of the tunnel... that tunnel caved in the year after he re-signed.