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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Can you give us a top 20 for this years draft to give us an idea of what types of players we might get at certain picks or is it just too early?Not yet. I might do his 4 goal game against Murray eventually. None of his first three demanded immediate attention though. I'm sure he'll build as the season goes on.
I lived next door to him in Moama. The kid can pull a mad wheelie on his MTB!Do you have anything on Jobe Shanahan
thanks
I'm not confident doing that at this point. I havent had the chance to see any of the SA players in 2024 yet. The Academy game is important.Can you give us a top 20 for this years draft to give us an idea of what types of players we might get at certain picks or is it just too early?
Google afl top 24 draft prospects 2024Can you give us a top 20 for this years draft to give us an idea of what types of players we might get at certain picks or is it just too early?
Id be having a crack at Cam Zuuuuuurhahaha as a FA
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I've had this mindset since the preseason. I never thought we would be in contention for the top half of the ladder, in fact the season is pretty much panning out as I expected apart from the win against the Swans. So after today we should be pretty much where I thought heading into the first bye, 1-5 and in the bottom 6 on the ladder. Our draft hand is strong as it stands and should get stronger by seasons end. Hopefully our new recruiting boss can nail the picks like he has with the Saints in recent seasons and we can give the rebuild a real boost.I'm going to spend the rest of this year enjoying watching Campbell, Sonsie, Dow, Brown, McAuliffe, Lefau play and also Coulthard, Judson, Kaleb Smith, Trezise when they get their chances.
Not fussed about wins or losses - will get back into a bit of draft analysis - concentrating on top 5 picks for the first time in what feels like forever.
Injuries has created opportunities for the younger players, it would be fraught with dangers to write them off.I've had this mindset since the preseason. I never thought we would be in contention for the top half of the ladder, in fact the season is pretty much panning out as I expected apart from the win against the Swans. So after today we should be pretty much where I thought heading into the first bye, 1-5 and in the bottom 6 on the ladder. Our draft hand is strong as it stands and should get stronger by seasons end. Hopefully our new recruiting boss can nail the picks like he has with the Saints in recent seasons and we can give the rebuild a real boost.
I will say this though I can see it getting a little worse yet, before it really starts to change direction. We've been playing on a lot of emotion lately and eventually we will have a let down where the team drops away in intensity and effort a little and gets blown out.
I don't see us ever admitting to a rebuild. It gives the players that get out of jail free card that absolves them from losing.I've had this mindset since the preseason. I never thought we would be in contention for the top half of the ladder, in fact the season is pretty much panning out as I expected apart from the win against the Swans. So after today we should be pretty much where I thought heading into the first bye, 1-5 and in the bottom 6 on the ladder. Our draft hand is strong as it stands and should get stronger by seasons end. Hopefully our new recruiting boss can nail the picks like he has with the Saints in recent seasons and we can give the rebuild a real boost.
I will say this though I can see it getting a little worse yet, before it really starts to change direction. We've been playing on a lot of emotion lately and eventually we will have a let down where the team drops away in intensity and effort a little and gets blown out.
AFL academy Vs Coburg VFL match yesterday.
STATS AND SCOUTING NOTES ON EVERY PLAYER
Levi Ashcroft
33 disposals, 5 clearances, 1 goal
The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect started in the midfield but also spent some time forward. He was the leading possession winner on the ground, and finished with a nice third-quarter goal. His ability to break the lines at stages caught the eye.
Ben Camporeale
24 disposals, 2 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 4 rebound 50s, 6 tackles
The Carlton father-son prospect began the day in defence before spending some time onball. He was a key link-up player, primarily on the outside of the contest.
Lucas Camporeale
25 disposals, 7 marks, 7 rebound 50s
Spent most of the day on the wing, where he was able to get up and down the ground and provide some run and carry. Some of his kicks were better than others, though.
Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Leonardo Lombard
18 disposals, 4 inside-50s, 2 rebound 50s, 1 goal
An exciting prospect for the Gold Coast Suns as part of their Academy. Started in the middle and found plenty of the ball early. Gets from contest to contest, is a real competitor, has a nice side-step through traffic and possesses and clean hands. Was rotated forward for large potions of the match, kicking one goal in the second quarter.
Sam Marshall
18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances
A Brisbane Lions Academy member who is boarding at Melbourne Grammar this year, Marshall started across half-back before spending time on a wing where he provided some run.
Ricky Mentha
9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal
The small forward had limited opportunities. However, he showed some class when he was around the footy, snapping a lovely banana goal on the run in the third quarter and showing off a lovely spin out of trouble in the final term. Has some speed and some tricks.
Christian Moraes
16 disposals, 2 marks, 2 clearances
The Eastern Ranges product played on a wing and onball. He only had three kicks before being crunched in a marking contest during the third quarter and leaving the field.
Jagga Smith
22 disposals, 3 marks, 3 clearances
Traditionally a midfielder, Smith is spending some time as a forward this year to show his ability in another position. He started at half-forward, before rotating onball. He’s had better games but it is clear that he has some real talent and a high footy IQ.
Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images
Jayden Nguyen
12 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s
A late inclusion for the Academy side due to some injuries. The 177cm Calder Cannons defender worked hard, primarily playing a lockdown role. He is part of Essendon’s NGA Academy.
Joel Cochran
13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s
Part of the Sydney Swans Academy, the 195cm tall rebounder spent most the day in defence.
Tom Gross
21 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances
Started forward and missed an early snap on goal before getting some midfield minutes. Took a nice contested park in the second quarter.
Harvey Langford
16 disposals, 3 marks, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal
The 190cm big-bodied midfielder had some moments onball and also spent some time across halfback and forward, kicking a goal in the opening term. Cracks in hard for the footy and showed off his penetrating kick at times.
Noah Mraz
7 disposals, 1 mark
Was a tough day down back for the defenders, including the 198cm Dandenong Stingrays product. He did his best to compete in the air but was outmarked by bigger bodies at times.
Harry O’Farrell
11 disposals, 5 marks, 2 rebound 50s
The 196cm Calder Cannons tall impressed in a key post in defence. He didn’t win a huge amount of the ball but showed some very good defensive craft and made some important spoils.
Jobe Shanahan
7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal
The 194cm key forward started well, slotting a first-quarter goal from a free kick in a marking contest. He missed two snaps on goal in the second and third quarters, but took a nice contested mark.
Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Josh Smillie
20 disposals, 5 clearances, 6 tackles
A big-bodied midfielder at 194cm who has drawn comparisons to Patrick Cripps, Smillie has been discussed as a potential No.1 pick. He was busy early in the midfield, showing his strength around stoppages and cleanness at ground level. He was rotated across half-back and was rarely beaten there. Of Smillie’s touches, 10 were contested.
Luke Trainor
20 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside-50s
Won the best-on-ground medal for his work down back. The 194cm interceptor from the Sandringham Dragons was seemingly everywhere and finished the game as the name on the lips of recruiters around the ground. He competed strongly against some bigger-bodied forwards, read the play well and worked hard up the ground. His kicking was clean and provided some rebound out of defence, with 14 of his touches being kicks.
Taj Hotton
18 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals
One of the additions to the Academy squad due to injuries, the hard-running Sandringham Dragons product started on a wing and covered the ground well. He applied some good pressure and slotted goals in the second and fourth quarters, but missed a couple of other opportunities.
Tobie Travaglia
15 disposals, 4 marks, 3 rebound 50s
A 187cm halfback from the Bendigo Pioneers, Travaglia showed his mobility, was brave in marking contests and won some intercepts. He generally looked composed when he won the ball back.
Oliver Dean
4 disposals, 1 mark, 8 hitouts
The 201cm Tasmanian toiled in the ruck all day but battled against some stronger and more seasoned opponents.
Jack Whitlock
9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 hitouts, 2 goals
An early-season draft bolter from the Murray Bushrangers, the rangy 200cm key forward made the most of relatively few opportunities. He kicked two second-half goals, including one from a nice contested mark in the last quarter. Was also used as a back-up ruck to Dean.
Tyler Welsh
8 disposals, 7 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal
It wasn’t quite as big a game as his five-goal haul at Ikon Park in the under-18 national championships last year. However, the Adelaide father-son prospect and 191cm forward still showed some great signs as he presented well and took some strong overhead marks.
I agree we won't admit to a rebuild, and I do believe that Yze had every intention of finishing as high as possible this year, but circumstances have seemingly dictated that we change path and embrace the rebuild. We'll keep playing to win and look to build that culture that drives us back to the top, but there will be a period where we have a drop in performance as young sides often do during long seasons.I don't see us ever admitting to a rebuild. It gives the players that get out of jail free card that absolves them from losing.
I'm seeing Yze pushing this group and getting them believing they can win every game. Teams like Norf who have bought into the loser culture of 'it doesn't matter if we lose today, it's all about the future' will prop up the ladder for eternity.
Oh yeah, I think we're swimming against the tide but I expect us to keep swimming where others just give up and raise their hand for assistance.I agree we won't admit to a rebuild, and I do believe that Yze had every intention of finishing as high as possible this year, but circumstances have seemingly dictated that we change path and embrace the rebuild. We'll keep playing to win and look to build that culture that drives us back to the top, but there will be a period where we have a drop in performance as young sides often do during long seasons.
Worked for us back when Hardwick took over and the expansion teams had all the best kids handed to them. We will be fine, just need to trust the process and not get spooked into making stupid rash decisions.Oh yeah, I think we're swimming against the tide but I expect us to keep swimming where others just give up and raise their hand for assistance.
i love that their major sponsor is tacosThose in the Lobb camp:
It means the Dogs do not need Lobb as a highly paid VFL back-up for Sam Darcy and English, set to net a contract of up to seven years at more than $1 million a season.
Lobb has two more seasons on a deal of around $550,000 remaining after this season and the Dogs will need to find money for English and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s contract.
Lobb and his fiance Lexi Mary have put up a series of TikToks making fun of his presence in the VFL and have been counselled by people close to them they are not being taken with the sense of humour they intend.
Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary
So he will straighten up his TikTok act and is reported by the Dogs to be genuinely working his tail off to get back into the AFL side with good VFL form and strong training work ethic.
But with English set to stay, Lobb is aware he is surplus to requirements in the long term at Whitten Oval.
So if he is traded, the Dogs might be happy to get his $1.1 million salary commitment off the books and would be urged to trade him to the club of his choice without wanting a high pick in return.
we want the Camporeale twins to have a good year. Then hopefully they become complete busts.AFL academy Vs Coburg VFL match yesterday.
STATS AND SCOUTING NOTES ON EVERY PLAYER
Levi Ashcroft
33 disposals, 5 clearances, 1 goal
The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect started in the midfield but also spent some time forward. He was the leading possession winner on the ground, and finished with a nice third-quarter goal. His ability to break the lines at stages caught the eye.
Ben Camporeale
24 disposals, 2 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 4 rebound 50s, 6 tackles
The Carlton father-son prospect began the day in defence before spending some time onball. He was a key link-up player, primarily on the outside of the contest.
Lucas Camporeale
25 disposals, 7 marks, 7 rebound 50s
Spent most of the day on the wing, where he was able to get up and down the ground and provide some run and carry. Some of his kicks were better than others, though.
Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Leonardo Lombard
18 disposals, 4 inside-50s, 2 rebound 50s, 1 goal
An exciting prospect for the Gold Coast Suns as part of their Academy. Started in the middle and found plenty of the ball early. Gets from contest to contest, is a real competitor, has a nice side-step through traffic and possesses and clean hands. Was rotated forward for large potions of the match, kicking one goal in the second quarter.
Sam Marshall
18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances
A Brisbane Lions Academy member who is boarding at Melbourne Grammar this year, Marshall started across half-back before spending time on a wing where he provided some run.
Ricky Mentha
9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal
The small forward had limited opportunities. However, he showed some class when he was around the footy, snapping a lovely banana goal on the run in the third quarter and showing off a lovely spin out of trouble in the final term. Has some speed and some tricks.
Christian Moraes
16 disposals, 2 marks, 2 clearances
The Eastern Ranges product played on a wing and onball. He only had three kicks before being crunched in a marking contest during the third quarter and leaving the field.
Jagga Smith
22 disposals, 3 marks, 3 clearances
Traditionally a midfielder, Smith is spending some time as a forward this year to show his ability in another position. He started at half-forward, before rotating onball. He’s had better games but it is clear that he has some real talent and a high footy IQ.
Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images
Jayden Nguyen
12 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s
A late inclusion for the Academy side due to some injuries. The 177cm Calder Cannons defender worked hard, primarily playing a lockdown role. He is part of Essendon’s NGA Academy.
Joel Cochran
13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s
Part of the Sydney Swans Academy, the 195cm tall rebounder spent most the day in defence.
Tom Gross
21 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances
Started forward and missed an early snap on goal before getting some midfield minutes. Took a nice contested park in the second quarter.
Harvey Langford
16 disposals, 3 marks, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal
The 190cm big-bodied midfielder had some moments onball and also spent some time across halfback and forward, kicking a goal in the opening term. Cracks in hard for the footy and showed off his penetrating kick at times.
Noah Mraz
7 disposals, 1 mark
Was a tough day down back for the defenders, including the 198cm Dandenong Stingrays product. He did his best to compete in the air but was outmarked by bigger bodies at times.
Harry O’Farrell
11 disposals, 5 marks, 2 rebound 50s
The 196cm Calder Cannons tall impressed in a key post in defence. He didn’t win a huge amount of the ball but showed some very good defensive craft and made some important spoils.
Jobe Shanahan
7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal
The 194cm key forward started well, slotting a first-quarter goal from a free kick in a marking contest. He missed two snaps on goal in the second and third quarters, but took a nice contested mark.
Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Josh Smillie
20 disposals, 5 clearances, 6 tackles
A big-bodied midfielder at 194cm who has drawn comparisons to Patrick Cripps, Smillie has been discussed as a potential No.1 pick. He was busy early in the midfield, showing his strength around stoppages and cleanness at ground level. He was rotated across half-back and was rarely beaten there. Of Smillie’s touches, 10 were contested.
Luke Trainor
20 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside-50s
Won the best-on-ground medal for his work down back. The 194cm interceptor from the Sandringham Dragons was seemingly everywhere and finished the game as the name on the lips of recruiters around the ground. He competed strongly against some bigger-bodied forwards, read the play well and worked hard up the ground. His kicking was clean and provided some rebound out of defence, with 14 of his touches being kicks.
Taj Hotton
18 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals
One of the additions to the Academy squad due to injuries, the hard-running Sandringham Dragons product started on a wing and covered the ground well. He applied some good pressure and slotted goals in the second and fourth quarters, but missed a couple of other opportunities.
Tobie Travaglia
15 disposals, 4 marks, 3 rebound 50s
A 187cm halfback from the Bendigo Pioneers, Travaglia showed his mobility, was brave in marking contests and won some intercepts. He generally looked composed when he won the ball back.
Oliver Dean
4 disposals, 1 mark, 8 hitouts
The 201cm Tasmanian toiled in the ruck all day but battled against some stronger and more seasoned opponents.
Jack Whitlock
9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 hitouts, 2 goals
An early-season draft bolter from the Murray Bushrangers, the rangy 200cm key forward made the most of relatively few opportunities. He kicked two second-half goals, including one from a nice contested mark in the last quarter. Was also used as a back-up ruck to Dean.
Tyler Welsh
8 disposals, 7 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal
It wasn’t quite as big a game as his five-goal haul at Ikon Park in the under-18 national championships last year. However, the Adelaide father-son prospect and 191cm forward still showed some great signs as he presented well and took some strong overhead marks.
When it comes to Carltoon it doesn't necessarily need to be F/Sons.we want the Camporeale twins to have a good year. Then hopefully they become complete busts.
Huh? I meant because they'll need points to pick them both up so they'll more than likely trade their 1st rounder.When it comes to Carltoon it doesn't necessarily need to be F/Sons.
Talking about busts mate.lolHuh? I meant because they'll need points to pick them both up so they'll more than likely trade their 1st rounder.
I initially liked the idea of a Dog's tall, JUH, but what's the strategy with LobbThose in the Lobb camp:
It means the Dogs do not need Lobb as a highly paid VFL back-up for Sam Darcy and English, set to net a contract of up to seven years at more than $1 million a season.
Lobb has two more seasons on a deal of around $550,000 remaining after this season and the Dogs will need to find money for English and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s contract.
Lobb and his fiance Lexi Mary have put up a series of TikToks making fun of his presence in the VFL and have been counselled by people close to them they are not being taken with the sense of humour they intend.
Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary
So he will straighten up his TikTok act and is reported by the Dogs to be genuinely working his tail off to get back into the AFL side with good VFL form and strong training work ethic.
But with English set to stay, Lobb is aware he is surplus to requirements in the long term at Whitten Oval.
So if he is traded, the Dogs might be happy to get his $1.1 million salary commitment off the books and would be urged to trade him to the club of his choice without wanting a high pick in return.
haha yeah that's a given.Talking about busts mate.lol