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Not yet. I might do his 4 goal game against Murray eventually. None of his first three demanded immediate attention though. I'm sure he'll build as the season goes on.
Can you give us a top 20 for this years draft to give us an idea of what types of players we might get at certain picks or is it just too early?
 

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Can you give us a top 20 for this years draft to give us an idea of what types of players we might get at certain picks or is it just too early?
Google afl top 24 draft prospects 2024
You should get good information there
I know Jagga smith and Tom gross both midfielders trained with us over the summer both top 10 prospects
 
The live ladder has Port 2nd, Freo 8th, Pies 10th, Rich 15th and WCE 17th

Based on that we will go the draft with picks 4, 24, 31, 40, 42, 49, 60, 64, 72

Trade 31, 40, 49, 60, 64 (1569 points) for Brisbane or Carlton's first round picks and we get a 2nd round compo pick for Jack Graham that give 5 picks inside the top 31
 
I'm going to spend the rest of this year enjoying watching Campbell, Sonsie, Dow, Brown, McAuliffe, Lefau play and also Coulthard, Judson, Kaleb Smith, Trezise when they get their chances.
Not fussed about wins or losses - will get back into a bit of draft analysis - concentrating on top 5 picks for the first time in what feels like forever.
 

The bidding war for Richmond’s fabulous Baker boy​

Liam Baker met with both West Coast and Fremantle in 2022, before he decided to remain with Richmond, where he had played in premierships in 2019 and 2020.

West Coast were the stronger suitor then, even though an improved Fremantle played finals that year while the Eagles were in the early phase of a scorched earth recession that has not abated.

Baker, weighing up his options as judiciously as he does on the field, just couldn’t leave Tigerland. Loyalty to teammates and comfort in the Richmond environment prevailed.
But in an era when top-shelf players are routinely given seven- and eight-year deals – long enough to see off a few prime ministers and Carlton coaches – Baker signed only for two seasons. He had the currency to secure a five-year contract if he wished.

So, he kept his options open.
In 2024, Baker has another call to make on whether he wishes to remain at Richmond or return to his home state of Western Australia, for family, friends and farm (Baker, like Fremantle champion, Nat Fyfe hails from Lake Grace).

here are a few considerations in Baker’s call.

The first one will be personal. Does he want to go home?

Then, if he decides to leave Melbourne, the decision turns to which of West Coast or Fremantle is the better choice. We can safely assume that the Eagles and Dockers will both want him if he’s available.

Staying, of course, means sticking with the club that overlooked his lack of height (173 centimetres) and the fact that they had an abundance of small forwards then (Jack Higgins and Dan Butler were then at Richmond, Daniel Rioli was still a forward), Baker having been drafted primarily as a forward. The Tigers felt then that he was simply too good to bypass.

It’s possible that one of the WA teams will want him more than the other. The Eagles certainly need mid-20s players more acutely than Fremantle, given their dismal state.

Conversely, Baker and his management might prefer the Dockers, who are the length of the Nullarbor ahead of their local rivals on the scale of premiership proximity.

Here’s summary of the options before Baker, who, as a seventh-year player, is not a free agent.

1. Stay at Richmond

This remains the easiest call to make. Richmond is his football home, the club that has nurtured and helped forge his career; it is also a powerful club, replete with history and seasoned, highly capable people at the helm, despite Damien Hardwick’s exit.

Baker is not likely to decide until the back half of the season, from what one can gather from people who know Baker’s situation. This should not necessarily be read as a portent of an exit, since he waited until late 2022 before re-signing.
This extra time allows him to see how the revamped coaching panel, headed by Adem Yze, operates and where the club is headed. Yze has praised Baker and made clear that he really wants him around, as the Tigers attempt to rise again with a mix of seasoned players and new kids.

There’s another potentially large carrot: the captaincy.
Toby Nankervis, now a standalone skipper, is 30 in August. Baker is a vice captain and one of the lead candidates to take over.
Should Baker stick with the Tigers, it would make sense to sign a long-term deal and secure his financial future.

2. West Coast

The Eagles, doubtless, would offer Baker an attractive contract and the prospect of a leadership role at a club he followed in his youth. They can offer him a vision of a power club’s restoration, which, admittedly, will take some years.

The new list manager at West Coast, Matty Clarke, was recruiting manager at Richmond until a few weeks ago and was part of the team that drafted Baker. The new chief executive, Don Pyke, has exceptional football acumen and a mandate to remake the club.
And while players always want to win finals and flags, Baker has played in two premierships, and could be ready for a lifestyle change that revolves around family and friends in WA.

The slows on West Coast are a) the sheer scale of the list reconstruction ahead, and b), the uncertainty around the senior coach, Adam Simpson and his allies.

It is hard to see Simpson surviving beyond his contract, which runs until the end of 2025, and he could well be leaving at the end of this season, given he barely survived 2023.

West Coast cannot sacrifice a first-round pick for Baker, considering their probable ladder position this year and next. If they’re on the bottom (a win on Sunday afternoon against the depleted Tigers would make that slightly less likely), they could use the pre-season draft as a lever to snare Baker or another player, with minimal draft cost. Under the rules, he can simply walk via the pre-season draft.

There’s little chance, however, that Baker will dud the Tigers by taking the pre-season draft path. More likely, Richmond would have to settle for an end-of-first-round – the Eagles surely will seek a priority pick as North did – or a second-round choice. Or something.

3. Fremantle

Should Baker decide to leave, the Dockers must be seriously considered – again, assuming they’re keen. On most counts, they have more to offer than West Coast.

First, they’ve steadily built a formidable young playing list, headed by Caleb Serong, Andrew Brayshaw, Luke Jackson and Hayden Young, and should be near contention from 2025 for a period of years.

Justin Longmuir looked shaky at the end of 2023, but the Dockers’ hierarchy has backed him – and he should be right for a couple more years minimum. Fremantle’s regime appears stable.

Importantly, Fremantle have the draft capital to consummate a trade, without much fancy footwork or angst. The Dockers have three first-rounders this year – Collingwood’s (Lachie Schultz), Port Adelaide’s and their own. Baker is worth one first-round choice, outside the top 10. He falls into the good rather than great player category.

Baker’s choice is hardly comparable to that faced by Chris Judd, Lance Franklin or Jeremy Cameron. But, with shallow talent spread across 18 clubs and the Tassie Devils about to eviscerate the drafts, the former rookie lister has picked a good time to be up for grabs.
 
I'm going to spend the rest of this year enjoying watching Campbell, Sonsie, Dow, Brown, McAuliffe, Lefau play and also Coulthard, Judson, Kaleb Smith, Trezise when they get their chances.
Not fussed about wins or losses - will get back into a bit of draft analysis - concentrating on top 5 picks for the first time in what feels like forever.
I've had this mindset since the preseason. I never thought we would be in contention for the top half of the ladder, in fact the season is pretty much panning out as I expected apart from the win against the Swans. So after today we should be pretty much where I thought heading into the first bye, 1-5 and in the bottom 6 on the ladder. Our draft hand is strong as it stands and should get stronger by seasons end. Hopefully our new recruiting boss can nail the picks like he has with the Saints in recent seasons and we can give the rebuild a real boost.

I will say this though I can see it getting a little worse yet, before it really starts to change direction. We've been playing on a lot of emotion lately and eventually we will have a let down where the team drops away in intensity and effort a little and gets blown out.
 
I've had this mindset since the preseason. I never thought we would be in contention for the top half of the ladder, in fact the season is pretty much panning out as I expected apart from the win against the Swans. So after today we should be pretty much where I thought heading into the first bye, 1-5 and in the bottom 6 on the ladder. Our draft hand is strong as it stands and should get stronger by seasons end. Hopefully our new recruiting boss can nail the picks like he has with the Saints in recent seasons and we can give the rebuild a real boost.

I will say this though I can see it getting a little worse yet, before it really starts to change direction. We've been playing on a lot of emotion lately and eventually we will have a let down where the team drops away in intensity and effort a little and gets blown out.
Injuries has created opportunities for the younger players, it would be fraught with dangers to write them off.
 
Injuries has created opportunities for the younger players, it would be fraught with dangers to write them off.
Not writing anyone off, just calling it as I see it
 
I've had this mindset since the preseason. I never thought we would be in contention for the top half of the ladder, in fact the season is pretty much panning out as I expected apart from the win against the Swans. So after today we should be pretty much where I thought heading into the first bye, 1-5 and in the bottom 6 on the ladder. Our draft hand is strong as it stands and should get stronger by seasons end. Hopefully our new recruiting boss can nail the picks like he has with the Saints in recent seasons and we can give the rebuild a real boost.

I will say this though I can see it getting a little worse yet, before it really starts to change direction. We've been playing on a lot of emotion lately and eventually we will have a let down where the team drops away in intensity and effort a little and gets blown out.
I don't see us ever admitting to a rebuild. It gives the players that get out of jail free card that absolves them from losing.
I'm seeing Yze pushing this group and getting them believing they can win every game. Teams like Norf who have bought into the loser culture of 'it doesn't matter if we lose today, it's all about the future' will prop up the ladder for eternity.
 
AFL academy Vs Coburg VFL match yesterday.

STATS AND SCOUTING NOTES ON EVERY PLAYER

Levi Ashcroft


33 disposals, 5 clearances, 1 goal

The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect started in the midfield but also spent some time forward. He was the leading possession winner on the ground, and finished with a nice third-quarter goal. His ability to break the lines at stages caught the eye.

Ben Camporeale

24 disposals, 2 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 4 rebound 50s, 6 tackles

The Carlton father-son prospect began the day in defence before spending some time onball. He was a key link-up player, primarily on the outside of the contest.

Lucas Camporeale

25 disposals, 7 marks, 7 rebound 50s

Spent most of the day on the wing, where he was able to get up and down the ground and provide some run and carry. Some of his kicks were better than others, though.

Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Leonardo Lombard

18 disposals, 4 inside-50s, 2 rebound 50s, 1 goal

An exciting prospect for the Gold Coast Suns as part of their Academy. Started in the middle and found plenty of the ball early. Gets from contest to contest, is a real competitor, has a nice side-step through traffic and possesses and clean hands. Was rotated forward for large potions of the match, kicking one goal in the second quarter.

Sam Marshall

18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances

A Brisbane Lions Academy member who is boarding at Melbourne Grammar this year, Marshall started across half-back before spending time on a wing where he provided some run.

Ricky Mentha

9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal

The small forward had limited opportunities. However, he showed some class when he was around the footy, snapping a lovely banana goal on the run in the third quarter and showing off a lovely spin out of trouble in the final term. Has some speed and some tricks.

Christian Moraes

16 disposals, 2 marks, 2 clearances

The Eastern Ranges product played on a wing and onball. He only had three kicks before being crunched in a marking contest during the third quarter and leaving the field.

Jagga Smith

22 disposals, 3 marks, 3 clearances

Traditionally a midfielder, Smith is spending some time as a forward this year to show his ability in another position. He started at half-forward, before rotating onball. He’s had better games but it is clear that he has some real talent and a high footy IQ.

Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images

Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images
Jayden Nguyen

12 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s

A late inclusion for the Academy side due to some injuries. The 177cm Calder Cannons defender worked hard, primarily playing a lockdown role. He is part of Essendon’s NGA Academy.

Joel Cochran

13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s

Part of the Sydney Swans Academy, the 195cm tall rebounder spent most the day in defence.

Tom Gross

21 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances

Started forward and missed an early snap on goal before getting some midfield minutes. Took a nice contested park in the second quarter.

Harvey Langford

16 disposals, 3 marks, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal

The 190cm big-bodied midfielder had some moments onball and also spent some time across halfback and forward, kicking a goal in the opening term. Cracks in hard for the footy and showed off his penetrating kick at times.

Noah Mraz

7 disposals, 1 mark

Was a tough day down back for the defenders, including the 198cm Dandenong Stingrays product. He did his best to compete in the air but was outmarked by bigger bodies at times.

Harry O’Farrell

11 disposals, 5 marks, 2 rebound 50s

The 196cm Calder Cannons tall impressed in a key post in defence. He didn’t win a huge amount of the ball but showed some very good defensive craft and made some important spoils.

Jobe Shanahan

7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal

The 194cm key forward started well, slotting a first-quarter goal from a free kick in a marking contest. He missed two snaps on goal in the second and third quarters, but took a nice contested mark.

Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Josh Smillie

20 disposals, 5 clearances, 6 tackles

A big-bodied midfielder at 194cm who has drawn comparisons to Patrick Cripps, Smillie has been discussed as a potential No.1 pick. He was busy early in the midfield, showing his strength around stoppages and cleanness at ground level. He was rotated across half-back and was rarely beaten there. Of Smillie’s touches, 10 were contested.

Luke Trainor

20 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside-50s

Won the best-on-ground medal for his work down back. The 194cm interceptor from the Sandringham Dragons was seemingly everywhere and finished the game as the name on the lips of recruiters around the ground. He competed strongly against some bigger-bodied forwards, read the play well and worked hard up the ground. His kicking was clean and provided some rebound out of defence, with 14 of his touches being kicks.

Taj Hotton

18 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals

One of the additions to the Academy squad due to injuries, the hard-running Sandringham Dragons product started on a wing and covered the ground well. He applied some good pressure and slotted goals in the second and fourth quarters, but missed a couple of other opportunities.

Tobie Travaglia

15 disposals, 4 marks, 3 rebound 50s

A 187cm halfback from the Bendigo Pioneers, Travaglia showed his mobility, was brave in marking contests and won some intercepts. He generally looked composed when he won the ball back.

Oliver Dean

4 disposals, 1 mark, 8 hitouts

The 201cm Tasmanian toiled in the ruck all day but battled against some stronger and more seasoned opponents.

Jack Whitlock

9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 hitouts, 2 goals

An early-season draft bolter from the Murray Bushrangers, the rangy 200cm key forward made the most of relatively few opportunities. He kicked two second-half goals, including one from a nice contested mark in the last quarter. Was also used as a back-up ruck to Dean.

Tyler Welsh

8 disposals, 7 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal

It wasn’t quite as big a game as his five-goal haul at Ikon Park in the under-18 national championships last year. However, the Adelaide father-son prospect and 191cm forward still showed some great signs as he presented well and took some strong overhead marks.
 

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AFL academy Vs Coburg VFL match yesterday.

STATS AND SCOUTING NOTES ON EVERY PLAYER

Levi Ashcroft


33 disposals, 5 clearances, 1 goal

The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect started in the midfield but also spent some time forward. He was the leading possession winner on the ground, and finished with a nice third-quarter goal. His ability to break the lines at stages caught the eye.

Ben Camporeale

24 disposals, 2 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 4 rebound 50s, 6 tackles

The Carlton father-son prospect began the day in defence before spending some time onball. He was a key link-up player, primarily on the outside of the contest.

Lucas Camporeale

25 disposals, 7 marks, 7 rebound 50s

Spent most of the day on the wing, where he was able to get up and down the ground and provide some run and carry. Some of his kicks were better than others, though.

Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Leonardo Lombard

18 disposals, 4 inside-50s, 2 rebound 50s, 1 goal

An exciting prospect for the Gold Coast Suns as part of their Academy. Started in the middle and found plenty of the ball early. Gets from contest to contest, is a real competitor, has a nice side-step through traffic and possesses and clean hands. Was rotated forward for large potions of the match, kicking one goal in the second quarter.

Sam Marshall

18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances

A Brisbane Lions Academy member who is boarding at Melbourne Grammar this year, Marshall started across half-back before spending time on a wing where he provided some run.

Ricky Mentha

9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal

The small forward had limited opportunities. However, he showed some class when he was around the footy, snapping a lovely banana goal on the run in the third quarter and showing off a lovely spin out of trouble in the final term. Has some speed and some tricks.

Christian Moraes

16 disposals, 2 marks, 2 clearances

The Eastern Ranges product played on a wing and onball. He only had three kicks before being crunched in a marking contest during the third quarter and leaving the field.

Jagga Smith

22 disposals, 3 marks, 3 clearances

Traditionally a midfielder, Smith is spending some time as a forward this year to show his ability in another position. He started at half-forward, before rotating onball. He’s had better games but it is clear that he has some real talent and a high footy IQ.

Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images

Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images
Jayden Nguyen

12 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s

A late inclusion for the Academy side due to some injuries. The 177cm Calder Cannons defender worked hard, primarily playing a lockdown role. He is part of Essendon’s NGA Academy.

Joel Cochran

13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s

Part of the Sydney Swans Academy, the 195cm tall rebounder spent most the day in defence.

Tom Gross

21 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances

Started forward and missed an early snap on goal before getting some midfield minutes. Took a nice contested park in the second quarter.

Harvey Langford

16 disposals, 3 marks, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal

The 190cm big-bodied midfielder had some moments onball and also spent some time across halfback and forward, kicking a goal in the opening term. Cracks in hard for the footy and showed off his penetrating kick at times.

Noah Mraz

7 disposals, 1 mark

Was a tough day down back for the defenders, including the 198cm Dandenong Stingrays product. He did his best to compete in the air but was outmarked by bigger bodies at times.

Harry O’Farrell

11 disposals, 5 marks, 2 rebound 50s

The 196cm Calder Cannons tall impressed in a key post in defence. He didn’t win a huge amount of the ball but showed some very good defensive craft and made some important spoils.

Jobe Shanahan

7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal

The 194cm key forward started well, slotting a first-quarter goal from a free kick in a marking contest. He missed two snaps on goal in the second and third quarters, but took a nice contested mark.

Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Josh Smillie

20 disposals, 5 clearances, 6 tackles

A big-bodied midfielder at 194cm who has drawn comparisons to Patrick Cripps, Smillie has been discussed as a potential No.1 pick. He was busy early in the midfield, showing his strength around stoppages and cleanness at ground level. He was rotated across half-back and was rarely beaten there. Of Smillie’s touches, 10 were contested.

Luke Trainor

20 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside-50s

Won the best-on-ground medal for his work down back. The 194cm interceptor from the Sandringham Dragons was seemingly everywhere and finished the game as the name on the lips of recruiters around the ground. He competed strongly against some bigger-bodied forwards, read the play well and worked hard up the ground. His kicking was clean and provided some rebound out of defence, with 14 of his touches being kicks.

Taj Hotton

18 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals

One of the additions to the Academy squad due to injuries, the hard-running Sandringham Dragons product started on a wing and covered the ground well. He applied some good pressure and slotted goals in the second and fourth quarters, but missed a couple of other opportunities.

Tobie Travaglia

15 disposals, 4 marks, 3 rebound 50s

A 187cm halfback from the Bendigo Pioneers, Travaglia showed his mobility, was brave in marking contests and won some intercepts. He generally looked composed when he won the ball back.

Oliver Dean

4 disposals, 1 mark, 8 hitouts

The 201cm Tasmanian toiled in the ruck all day but battled against some stronger and more seasoned opponents.

Jack Whitlock

9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 hitouts, 2 goals

An early-season draft bolter from the Murray Bushrangers, the rangy 200cm key forward made the most of relatively few opportunities. He kicked two second-half goals, including one from a nice contested mark in the last quarter. Was also used as a back-up ruck to Dean.

Tyler Welsh

8 disposals, 7 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal

It wasn’t quite as big a game as his five-goal haul at Ikon Park in the under-18 national championships last year. However, the Adelaide father-son prospect and 191cm forward still showed some great signs as he presented well and took some strong overhead marks.

Cool, so all the good players are f/s or academy. We banked a tonne of picks so we can facilitate other teams getting the good players.
 
Those in the Lobb camp:

It means the Dogs do not need Lobb as a highly paid VFL back-up for Sam Darcy and English, set to net a contract of up to seven years at more than $1 million a season.

Lobb has two more seasons on a deal of around $550,000 remaining after this season and the Dogs will need to find money for English and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s contract.

Lobb and his fiance Lexi Mary have put up a series of TikToks making fun of his presence in the VFL and have been counselled by people close to them they are not being taken with the sense of humour they intend.

[PLAYERCARD]Rory Lobb[/PLAYERCARD] in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary

Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary
So he will straighten up his TikTok act and is reported by the Dogs to be genuinely working his tail off to get back into the AFL side with good VFL form and strong training work ethic.

But with English set to stay, Lobb is aware he is surplus to requirements in the long term at Whitten Oval.

So if he is traded, the Dogs might be happy to get his $1.1 million salary commitment off the books and would be urged to trade him to the club of his choice without wanting a high pick in return.
 
I don't see us ever admitting to a rebuild. It gives the players that get out of jail free card that absolves them from losing.
I'm seeing Yze pushing this group and getting them believing they can win every game. Teams like Norf who have bought into the loser culture of 'it doesn't matter if we lose today, it's all about the future' will prop up the ladder for eternity.
I agree we won't admit to a rebuild, and I do believe that Yze had every intention of finishing as high as possible this year, but circumstances have seemingly dictated that we change path and embrace the rebuild. We'll keep playing to win and look to build that culture that drives us back to the top, but there will be a period where we have a drop in performance as young sides often do during long seasons.
 
I agree we won't admit to a rebuild, and I do believe that Yze had every intention of finishing as high as possible this year, but circumstances have seemingly dictated that we change path and embrace the rebuild. We'll keep playing to win and look to build that culture that drives us back to the top, but there will be a period where we have a drop in performance as young sides often do during long seasons.
Oh yeah, I think we're swimming against the tide but I expect us to keep swimming where others just give up and raise their hand for assistance.
 
Oh yeah, I think we're swimming against the tide but I expect us to keep swimming where others just give up and raise their hand for assistance.
Worked for us back when Hardwick took over and the expansion teams had all the best kids handed to them. We will be fine, just need to trust the process and not get spooked into making stupid rash decisions.

This year with our draft hand it's important that we get the best possible haul to take into the draft and give ourselves the best opportunity to add more quality kids to the list. Keep building that talent pool and then when the time is right hit the trade/free agency market and get the missing pieces that put us back into genuine contention for the premiership.
 
Those in the Lobb camp:

It means the Dogs do not need Lobb as a highly paid VFL back-up for Sam Darcy and English, set to net a contract of up to seven years at more than $1 million a season.

Lobb has two more seasons on a deal of around $550,000 remaining after this season and the Dogs will need to find money for English and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s contract.

Lobb and his fiance Lexi Mary have put up a series of TikToks making fun of his presence in the VFL and have been counselled by people close to them they are not being taken with the sense of humour they intend.

Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary

Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary
So he will straighten up his TikTok act and is reported by the Dogs to be genuinely working his tail off to get back into the AFL side with good VFL form and strong training work ethic.

But with English set to stay, Lobb is aware he is surplus to requirements in the long term at Whitten Oval.

So if he is traded, the Dogs might be happy to get his $1.1 million salary commitment off the books and would be urged to trade him to the club of his choice without wanting a high pick in return.
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AFL academy Vs Coburg VFL match yesterday.

STATS AND SCOUTING NOTES ON EVERY PLAYER

Levi Ashcroft


33 disposals, 5 clearances, 1 goal

The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect started in the midfield but also spent some time forward. He was the leading possession winner on the ground, and finished with a nice third-quarter goal. His ability to break the lines at stages caught the eye.

Ben Camporeale

24 disposals, 2 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 4 rebound 50s, 6 tackles

The Carlton father-son prospect began the day in defence before spending some time onball. He was a key link-up player, primarily on the outside of the contest.

Lucas Camporeale

25 disposals, 7 marks, 7 rebound 50s

Spent most of the day on the wing, where he was able to get up and down the ground and provide some run and carry. Some of his kicks were better than others, though.

Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

Gold Coast Academy prospect Leonardo Lombard in action. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Leonardo Lombard

18 disposals, 4 inside-50s, 2 rebound 50s, 1 goal

An exciting prospect for the Gold Coast Suns as part of their Academy. Started in the middle and found plenty of the ball early. Gets from contest to contest, is a real competitor, has a nice side-step through traffic and possesses and clean hands. Was rotated forward for large potions of the match, kicking one goal in the second quarter.

Sam Marshall

18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances

A Brisbane Lions Academy member who is boarding at Melbourne Grammar this year, Marshall started across half-back before spending time on a wing where he provided some run.

Ricky Mentha

9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal

The small forward had limited opportunities. However, he showed some class when he was around the footy, snapping a lovely banana goal on the run in the third quarter and showing off a lovely spin out of trouble in the final term. Has some speed and some tricks.

Christian Moraes

16 disposals, 2 marks, 2 clearances

The Eastern Ranges product played on a wing and onball. He only had three kicks before being crunched in a marking contest during the third quarter and leaving the field.

Jagga Smith

22 disposals, 3 marks, 3 clearances

Traditionally a midfielder, Smith is spending some time as a forward this year to show his ability in another position. He started at half-forward, before rotating onball. He’s had better games but it is clear that he has some real talent and a high footy IQ.

Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images

Jagga Smith found a bit of the ball in midfield and forward roles. Picture: Getty Images
Jayden Nguyen

12 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s

A late inclusion for the Academy side due to some injuries. The 177cm Calder Cannons defender worked hard, primarily playing a lockdown role. He is part of Essendon’s NGA Academy.

Joel Cochran

13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 rebound 50s

Part of the Sydney Swans Academy, the 195cm tall rebounder spent most the day in defence.

Tom Gross

21 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances

Started forward and missed an early snap on goal before getting some midfield minutes. Took a nice contested park in the second quarter.

Harvey Langford

16 disposals, 3 marks, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal

The 190cm big-bodied midfielder had some moments onball and also spent some time across halfback and forward, kicking a goal in the opening term. Cracks in hard for the footy and showed off his penetrating kick at times.

Noah Mraz

7 disposals, 1 mark

Was a tough day down back for the defenders, including the 198cm Dandenong Stingrays product. He did his best to compete in the air but was outmarked by bigger bodies at times.

Harry O’Farrell

11 disposals, 5 marks, 2 rebound 50s

The 196cm Calder Cannons tall impressed in a key post in defence. He didn’t win a huge amount of the ball but showed some very good defensive craft and made some important spoils.

Jobe Shanahan

7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal

The 194cm key forward started well, slotting a first-quarter goal from a free kick in a marking contest. He missed two snaps on goal in the second and third quarters, but took a nice contested mark.

Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos

Potential No. 1 pick Josh Smillie impressed on Saturday. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
Josh Smillie

20 disposals, 5 clearances, 6 tackles

A big-bodied midfielder at 194cm who has drawn comparisons to Patrick Cripps, Smillie has been discussed as a potential No.1 pick. He was busy early in the midfield, showing his strength around stoppages and cleanness at ground level. He was rotated across half-back and was rarely beaten there. Of Smillie’s touches, 10 were contested.

Luke Trainor

20 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside-50s

Won the best-on-ground medal for his work down back. The 194cm interceptor from the Sandringham Dragons was seemingly everywhere and finished the game as the name on the lips of recruiters around the ground. He competed strongly against some bigger-bodied forwards, read the play well and worked hard up the ground. His kicking was clean and provided some rebound out of defence, with 14 of his touches being kicks.

Taj Hotton

18 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals

One of the additions to the Academy squad due to injuries, the hard-running Sandringham Dragons product started on a wing and covered the ground well. He applied some good pressure and slotted goals in the second and fourth quarters, but missed a couple of other opportunities.

Tobie Travaglia

15 disposals, 4 marks, 3 rebound 50s

A 187cm halfback from the Bendigo Pioneers, Travaglia showed his mobility, was brave in marking contests and won some intercepts. He generally looked composed when he won the ball back.

Oliver Dean

4 disposals, 1 mark, 8 hitouts

The 201cm Tasmanian toiled in the ruck all day but battled against some stronger and more seasoned opponents.

Jack Whitlock

9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 hitouts, 2 goals

An early-season draft bolter from the Murray Bushrangers, the rangy 200cm key forward made the most of relatively few opportunities. He kicked two second-half goals, including one from a nice contested mark in the last quarter. Was also used as a back-up ruck to Dean.

Tyler Welsh

8 disposals, 7 marks, 3 inside-50s, 1 goal

It wasn’t quite as big a game as his five-goal haul at Ikon Park in the under-18 national championships last year. However, the Adelaide father-son prospect and 191cm forward still showed some great signs as he presented well and took some strong overhead marks.
we want the Camporeale twins to have a good year. Then hopefully they become complete busts.
 
Those in the Lobb camp:

It means the Dogs do not need Lobb as a highly paid VFL back-up for Sam Darcy and English, set to net a contract of up to seven years at more than $1 million a season.

Lobb has two more seasons on a deal of around $550,000 remaining after this season and the Dogs will need to find money for English and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s contract.

Lobb and his fiance Lexi Mary have put up a series of TikToks making fun of his presence in the VFL and have been counselled by people close to them they are not being taken with the sense of humour they intend.

Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary

Rory Lobb in a TikTok that wasn’t taken as well as he’d hoped. Picture: TikTok, @lexiimary
So he will straighten up his TikTok act and is reported by the Dogs to be genuinely working his tail off to get back into the AFL side with good VFL form and strong training work ethic.

But with English set to stay, Lobb is aware he is surplus to requirements in the long term at Whitten Oval.

So if he is traded, the Dogs might be happy to get his $1.1 million salary commitment off the books and would be urged to trade him to the club of his choice without wanting a high pick in return.
I initially liked the idea of a Dog's tall, JUH, but what's the strategy with Lobb

But we've already got a KPF list of Lynch, Balta, Kosi, LeFau, Ryan, Gibcus, Bauer, Naismith. We seem to be 13th a bit these years.

may as well hope Lynch stays fit and Ryan replicates his recent VFL form up a level.

Draft the best available.
 
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