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Will the change in academy rules change what GCS/GWS want?

I wonder if GCS would do #4 and #6 for #1 and #19?
I think GC is better to have all their picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Only bowes is going to demand significant points and he may slide a bit.
It certainly forces GC and Co to trade the picks into 2017.
 
Will the change in academy rules change what GCS/GWS want?

I wonder if GCS would do #4 and #6 for #1 and #19?

GWS has spare list spots so this change doesn't affect them yet.
GC's spare picks were all traded in last year which (allegedly) aren't affected by the rule change this year, so this change doesn't affect them much either.
 

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GWS has spare list spots so this change doesn't affect them yet.
GC's spare picks were all traded in last year which (allegedly) aren't affected by the rule change this year, so this change doesn't affect them much either.
What do you mean by the 2016 traded picks not counting yet? Isn't the point that they'll only be able to go in with as many selections as they have free spots? They've already got 6 1st/2nd round picks, plus #40 and #58. Then anything from player trades. Are they planning on trading/delisting 8 players (net of rookie promotions)?
 
What do you mean by the 2016 traded picks not counting yet? Isn't the point that they'll only be able to go in with as many selections as they have free spots? They've already got 6 1st/2nd round picks, plus #40 and #58. Then anything from player trades. Are they planning on trading/delisting 8 players (net of rookie promotions)?

The rules changes have been grandfathered, so they wont affect any picks currently moved in.
 
What do you mean by the 2016 traded picks not counting yet? Isn't the point that they'll only be able to go in with as many selections as they have free spots? They've already got 6 1st/2nd round picks, plus #40 and #58. Then anything from player trades. Are they planning on trading/delisting 8 players (net of rookie promotions)?

Gold Coast traded in four 2016 picks last year. If the reports are correct, they won't count to the selections limited by free spots so if Gold Coast doesn't do anything but delist three players (unlikely, I know, but it's easier) they'll only have two first round picks and a second round pick active at the start of the draft but still have three other second round picks and a third round pick working like last year's "hidden picks", so can use all seven picks to match academy bids.

OTOH Sydney didn't trade in any 2016 picks last year. If they delist one player and trade away three players for first round picks and make no other changes, they're only going to have four active selections - all first rounders - and if they need to match an academy bid they can only use those four.

This would only apply to this year precisely because teams traded these picks in before the rule change was made.
 
Gold Coast traded in four 2016 picks last year. If the reports are correct, they won't count to the selections limited by free spots so if Gold Coast doesn't do anything but delist three players (unlikely, I know, but it's easier) they'll only have two first round picks and a second round pick active at the start of the draft but still have three other second round picks and a third round pick working like last year's "hidden picks", so can use all seven picks to match academy bids.

OTOH Sydney didn't trade in any 2016 picks last year. If they delist one player and trade away three players for first round picks and make no other changes, they're only going to have four active selections - all first rounders - and if they need to match an academy bid they can only use those four.

This would only apply to this year precisely because teams traded these picks in before the rule change was made.
Except in that scenario they'd only have 3 list spots to fill, so if they were filling them with academy kids the only way I could imagine GC needing to dip into that many 2nd rounders to cover the cost, would be if there academy kids were bid on at 1, 2 and 3.
 
Except in that scenario they'd only have 3 list spots to fill, so if they were filling them with academy kids the only way I could imagine GC needing to dip into that many 2nd rounders to cover the cost, would be if there academy kids were bid on at 1, 2 and 3.

That's correct. I was aiming for as simple an explanation as possible rather than going into all the caveats. :)
 
It is a joke that Pick #1 is even an option for Essendon.

Their list isn't that of a 17th or 18th placed team because with the exception or Hibberd, they've lost no-one. You put the other 11 blokes back into the team, and no chance they finish as low as they have.

Their draft picks should be based on an average of where they finished on the ladder in 2013 (9th), 2014 (7th), and 2015 (15th), so about Pick 10 should be what they deserve.

Their stupidity has seen them finish last, so why reward it with a Top-2 draft pick?
 
It is a joke that Pick #1 is even an option for Essendon.

Their list isn't that of a 17th or 18th placed team because with the exception or Hibberd, they've lost no-one. You put the other 11 blokes back into the team, and no chance they finish as low as they have.

Their draft picks should be based on an average of where they finished on the ladder in 2013 (9th), 2014 (7th), and 2015 (15th), so about Pick 10 should be what they deserve.

Their stupidity has seen them finish last, so why reward it with a Top-2 draft pick?

We got punished twice already (points stripped, draft picks lost, removed from finals, fine and then players banned). Your plan is to punish us a third time after the first set of punishments put us into last?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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We got punished twice already (points stripped, draft picks lost, removed from finals, fine and then players banned). Your plan is to punish us a third time after the first set of punishments put us into last?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The only thing that had a bearing on you finishing last this season was the player ban... and you get them all back next season.

The earlier punishments that you mentioned had no bearing on your ladder position this year.
 
The only thing that had a bearing on you finishing last this season was the player ban... and you get them all back next season.

The earlier punishments that you mentioned had no bearing on your ladder position this year.

Losing draft picks doesn't effect our position? Then surely having #1 won't either! Easy logic, easy draft.
 
It is a joke that Pick #1 is even an option for Essendon.

Their list isn't that of a 17th or 18th placed team because with the exception or Hibberd, they've lost no-one. You put the other 11 blokes back into the team, and no chance they finish as low as they have.

Their draft picks should be based on an average of where they finished on the ladder in 2013 (9th), 2014 (7th), and 2015 (15th), so about Pick 10 should be what they deserve.

Their stupidity has seen them finish last, so why reward it with a Top-2 draft pick?
Give Us back our two first and second round picks from 2013/14 which we got penalised for then
 
It is a joke that Pick #1 is even an option for Essendon.

Their list isn't that of a 17th or 18th placed team because with the exception or Hibberd, they've lost no-one. You put the other 11 blokes back into the team, and no chance they finish as low as they have.

Their draft picks should be based on an average of where they finished on the ladder in 2013 (9th), 2014 (7th), and 2015 (15th), so about Pick 10 should be what they deserve.

Their stupidity has seen them finish last, so why reward it with a Top-2 draft pick?
Surely stupidity is involved for every team that finishes last whether it be stupid coaching, stupid recruiting, stupid tanking or stupid governance.
 
It is a joke that Pick #1 is even an option for Essendon.

Their list isn't that of a 17th or 18th placed team because with the exception or Hibberd, they've lost no-one. You put the other 11 blokes back into the team, and no chance they finish as low as they have.

Their draft picks should be based on an average of where they finished on the ladder in 2013 (9th), 2014 (7th), and 2015 (15th), so about Pick 10 should be what they deserve.

Their stupidity has seen them finish last, so why reward it with a Top-2 draft pick?

Thats fine, give us the 2 years of first rounders we lost without a guilty verdict being handed down..
 
Don't get involved in the Melbourne supporters.

We have 1st pick and we will use it to pick a quality player that is possibly a future captain of the club and best thing is we know how to develop players.

Salem, trengrove, watts, grimes, toumpas, scully - gee that list is getting big.
 
It is a joke that Pick #1 is even an option for Essendon.

Their list isn't that of a 17th or 18th placed team because with the exception or Hibberd, they've lost no-one. You put the other 11 blokes back into the team, and no chance they finish as low as they have.

Their draft picks should be based on an average of where they finished on the ladder in 2013 (9th), 2014 (7th), and 2015 (15th), so about Pick 10 should be what they deserve.

Their stupidity has seen them finish last, so why reward it with a Top-2 draft pick?
i completely agree. We are easily the best list to bring home pick 1 and i don't think too many will ever come as close.
 
Don't get stuck into Melbourne supporters, they're not worth the effort. They've wasted most of their picks for the last decade, so their bitterness is understandable.

That and the fact we beat them. Lel
 
I know you're saying that tongue in cheek... but it is true. Pick #1 for a team that is a borderline finalist... hmmmmm :-/
honestly, I'm not kidding.
we don't deserve it.
But i don't care. AFL f'd this up when they took the 2013 and 2014 picks from us (though bizarrely gave us one back in 2014)

I'm happy to take pick 1 to the draft this year and i hope we draft the best player, who goes on to be Judd-like.
 

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