Training Training reports 2024

[The Dingrel]

Grappling?

Some new word?

no it describes what some on this board are doing to try and understand our ruck situation, and appropriate terminology of various culinary endeavors, parmi or parma, dimmies fried or steamed.

 

[roos_tt29]

1. Xerri
2. CCJ
3. Stare into the void, keep staring, wait until it stares back and the madness takes over.
4. Free

Goad could probably be anywhere from 2-4 there. Haven't seen enough of him yet to judge obviously.
There's a reason he's the one I'm personally most curious about. Could fill a huge need if he comes on in the next couple of years.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Will be impressive to do so from hbf where he is going to play from this year

The answer to our defensive shortcomings is to have George, Sheezel, Hardeman, Archer, Fisher, McKercher, Bergman, Goater, McDonald, Tucker, Scott, and Drury all play hbf at the same time. Not sure how we get around the 6-6-6 rule at centre bounces but in general play, we are onto a winner.

 

[The Dingrel]

So I'm assuming Brayden George will be in the next 4qtr match sim? Do they do those every Friday?

Could you imagine if he is the best of the young crop? I remember Rats taking him up as if he was.

Well that "Daz" you tuber geezer has 4 north players in the top 10 rising stars with Brayden taking it out. Big call considering the tickets on Reid, Jy's "holy crap" comment re Colby, not to mention the Wardlaw and Sheez's proclamation he'll take it out and that his old man prefers watching him over himself!

 

[justroyal]

I hate to chime in on the shitmen ruck debate. But you would imagine both of these two had been working tirelessly on their goal kicking in the off and pre-season.

In the end that’s probably the biggest difference these two need to provide and unfortunately, both have lacked in with CCJ just edging Xerri out with those occasional ‘semi’- bags when he isn’t injured.

I personally think CCJ marks a few more and scores a few more than Xerri while Xerri’s ferocity is better than CCJ’s, the bulldoze method isn’t going to last long unless he adds some more ruckmen traits to his game

 

[shinboner magic]

The Void was supposed to be the great white hope Jacob Edwards..

Yet here we are..

Where is this guy playing this year roos_fanatic08

 

[gerry101101]

As we count down to the start of pre-season games next month, I’ve put together some thoughts on realistic goals and what I hope to see for some areas of improvement for each individual on the list.

1. Hugh Greenwood - No real expectation for improvement. Don’t see him as pushing for best 22 but if he is called up, the hope is that he provides decent back up for contested play and ruck relief as required.

2. Jaidyn Stephenson - Place in the side under pressure. If he does get a gig, I’d like to see him/us play to his strengths rather than focus on defensive side to his game. Average of 2 goals a game or disposal average in high teens.

3. Harry Sheezel - Even matching his output from last year would be a huge success. Would like to see him given more opportunity for hitting the scoreboard though this year

4. Aidan Corr - Goal would be for him to stay at end of season form for last year. One of our most important players next season.

5. Curtis Taylor - no real expectations sadly and no further comment

6. George Wardlaw - Average 15-20 possessions and 5 tackles would be a good result. But really it’s all about staying healthy and playing games.

7. Zane Duursma - 5 - 10 games and a rising star nomination

8. Bailey Scott - Averaging 25 possessions and neater entry into the 50.

9. Luke Davies-Uniake - Averaging 25-30 possessions. As with other players would love to see him have greater scoreboard impact. If so, expecting an all Australian year from LDU.

10. Colby McKercher - 10-15 games and rising star nomination.

11. Luke McDonald - no real expectation for improvement but would like to see him play within himself more - less attempts at breaking through tackles and going for those all or nothing kicks.

12. Jy Simpkin - Average 25 possessions and a few more goals this year.

13. Darcy Tucker Pushing for best 22. If he gets a gig, would like to see him accumulate better. He has all the attributes to.

14. Liam Shiels - Don’t think he has a place in the 22, his value will be in coaching on field the youth in the vfl.

15. Dylan Stephens - Averaging 20 touches and showing some outside offensive class to compliment Baileys more defensive role.

16. Zac Fisher - Average 20-25 touches and show some dash and class coming out of the back half.

17. Riley Hardeman - A debut game would be the goal. Development year in the VFL

18. Wil Dawson - Development year in the VFL. Debut would be unlikely.

19. Griffin Logue - Full recovery from ACL will be the big win.

20. Nick Larkey - Matching or coming close to goal output from last year would be huge. To take Nicks game to the next level I’d love to see him take more marks around the ground especially the relieving mark from D50 kick outs.

21. CCJ - no real expectations. If he does get games, I just want him to not get out marked in the forward 50s - need to at least halve the contest. Average 1.5 goals a game would be a win.

22. Taylor Goad - Development year in VFL. Don’t think a debut is on the cards.

24. Tom Powell - would love that he start showing signs of productivity he was known for as a junior. Average of 20 possessions a game. Also needs to develop tackling side to his game.

25. Paul Curtis - A goal a game would be a good target but more than that given we don't have a designated small forward must continue to develop tackling and pressure game. Would like to see him average 4 tackles a game.

26. Tarryn Thomas - 20 touches and 1 goal across the season

27. Miller Bergman - Improve ability to halve contests. Would like to see him distribute the ball more as well given his composure is a stand out trait.

28. Bigoa Nyoun - Development year in VFL appears likely. 5 games would be a reasonable target for him.

29. Will Phillips - Average 20-23 possessions a game. Consistency in disposal could also be a good area for improvement.

30. Charlie Comben - staying healthy is priority 1 - I see this as a bit of a development year for him given he is being asked to learn a new role.

31. Josh Goater - Averaging 15 touches and noticeable lift in skills with ball in hand would be a great result.

32. Toby Pink - 10 games as defensive cover.

33. Brayden George - Mostly a development year in the VFL, still don’t know whether he will play in attack or forward.

34. Jackson Archer - If he gets games, will need to lift productivity. Playing 5 games in AFL and signs of improvement when playing VFL would be a reasonable goal.

35. Charlie Lazzaro - would likely need to go a bit ballistic in VFL to push for AFL games this year.

37. Cooper Harvey - Aim would be to play 5 AFL games and show signs that he can translate vfl form to AFL

38. Tristan Xerri - Main area of improvement is ability to develop his aerial game. Playing as number 1 ruck each game should see improvement throughout the year.

39. Finbar Maley - Devekooment year in VFL with a chance of an unlikely debut.

40. Eddie Ford - Average of 15 possessions and a goal a game.

41. Blake Drury - Unlikely to see much AFL action. Showing improvement in VFL is probably best case scenario.

42. Kallan Dawson - if there is ever a time to cement a place in the defensive back 6 in an AFL side it is now for Kallan. 15 AFL games would be a great result for him individually. Would like to see him show signs of intercept marking ability.

44. Cam Zurhaar - For the balance of the side I’d like to see him spend more time in the attacking 50. Averaging 2 goals a game would be ideal.

45. Hamish Free - no major expectations. Back up only.

46. Robert Hansen Jnr - 5 games would be a good result in addition to developing forward craft in the VFL.

Great post - pretty much agree with most of it. One exception (There’s always one…) is re McDonald playing within himself and not trying to break tackles as much. I feel like the guy searches for contact every time he gets the ball so he can get a ball up, knowing he doesn’t have the pace or dexterity to break a tackle. A momentum killer every time he gets it. Personally I’d love to see him try to break a tackle for a change!

That aside - spot on from my perspective.

 

[Gasometer]

Looking at the pic of the top page

Now there’s Ruckmen

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Where is this guy playing this year roos_fanatic08

Cheltenham in the Southern Football League. Playing with his brother.

Didn’t have the desire to try develop at VFL level.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I wasn't anticipating Duursma to play early in the season given how light he is, however 4 goals* in a match sim is very impressive. If he keeps playing like this it will be hard to ignore him for round 1.

*Special mention to Cooper, 4 goals is equally as impressive and a chance to play round 1 too.

I really hope Coops makes it. It would be a great thing for the club! Arch too!

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Glad they've gone back to jiu jitsu in the program. It's incredible for cardio. Hugely strengthens the core. And it trains you to hold your ground.
Also very low impact for the benefits

 

[King Hansen]

Cheltenham in the Southern Football League. Playing with his brother.

Didn’t have the desire to try develop at VFL level.

Big fish, small pond!!

 

[DesertRoo]

Big fish, small pond!!

I don’t think it’s an ego thing..

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I don’t think it’s an ego thing..

Was given a shot due to his height.

Scored $250,000 as a rookie listed player for 30 months work.

Didn’t want to get any better.

Gets delisted.

 

[Rob in Cologne]

Big fish, small pond!!

Hopefully he can enjoy his footy - the kid did NOT look like he was enjoying it in the slightest in 2023

 

[DesertRoo]

Was given a shot due to his height.

Scored $250,000 as a rookie listed player for 30 months work.

Didn’t want to get any better.

Gets delisted.

I think you’re simplifying life into monetary terms.

I know it’s difficult to explain on a forum, based on football, but he simply wanted to do different things with his life.

That’s ok, we move on.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I think you’re simplifying life into monetary terms.

I know it’s difficult to explain on a forum based on football but he simply wanted to do different things with his life.

That’s ok, we move on.

Fair enough.

Would’ve been nice to know before he took up a list spot for 2 1/2 years.

 

[My Left Foote]

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Glad they've gone back to jiu jitsu in the program. It's incredible for cardio. Hugely strengthens the core. And it trains you to hold your ground.
Also very low impact for the benefits

Definitely has some benefits.

I don’t think they are btw, but it they are actually training full blown jiujitsu I don’t think it’s low impact. It’s a very easy way to get shoulders, elbows and your spine jacked up pretty bad. Even in a very controlled environment the risk of injury is pretty high from my experience.

Big fish, small pond!!

I honestly think he’ll struggle in that league. It’s a strong comp with plenty of seasoned and mature rucks running around. He’ll be in for a shock if he thinks he is going to drop down there and dominate.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Cheltenham in the Southern Football League. Playing with his brother.

Didn’t have the desire to try develop at VFL level.

That was the issue with this bloke. He had the body and the skills, just didn't have the desire.

 

[The Warlord]

Fair enough.

Would’ve been nice to know before he took up a list spot for 2 1/2 years.

At least we didn't spend a high end pick on him like Adelaide did with Fisher McAsey.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Cheltenham in the Southern Football League. Playing with his brother.

Didn’t have the desire to try develop at VFL level.

I rest my case M’lud.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Fair enough.

Would’ve been nice to know before he took up a list spot for 2 1/2 years.

The kids don’t know it themselves until they experience the demands and expectations. Some handle it. Some don’t. Next…..

 

[The Talent Scout]

The kids don’t know it themselves until they experience the demands and expectations. Some handle it. Some don’t. Next…..

Absolutely the perfect reply, summed up in a few words, and it is a shame for kids past and present who have/going/ gone through this and it doesn't matter how good you are as a 17/18 year old, it could be mentally or physical depending on the player, and in some cases both.

 

[My Left Foote]

I really hope Coops makes it. It would be a great thing for the club! Arch too!

100%, may not end up 10+ year veterans but if they could both play 100 – 150 games, would be great.