Training restrictions

[bh90210fan]

If only the WA Premier made it easier for teams to FIFO for games, whereas the QLD Government bent over backwards to make sure it could happen.

Why? The only people he managed to piss off were from over east.

 

[faible]

Well, you have gone a bit off tangent here. I am saying it's only 5 days. And you will still be able to train in some capacity. If it was two weeks and beyond, i would understand. But, it was effectively a weekend lock down. And it's not on Victoria, it's on your premier (who seems pretty hardcore).
The new SE coast league is different again and the Tassie discussion is another one altogether. I don't understand why the AFL wouldn't have a Western side state league involving a 2 tier comp between the WA, SA and NT leagues. Would be an awesome comp.

I don't think the AFL control the SANFL or WAFL from memory, whereas they did control the VFL and NEAFL

 

[faible]

Why? The only people he managed to piss off were from over east.

And West Coast supporters it seems, from the amount of waaaahing coming from out West.

 

[bh90210fan]

And West Coast supporters it seems, from the amount of waaaahing coming from out West.

you’d be hard pressed to find any supporters who wanted McGowan to bend over backwards for Gill and his cronies

 

[faible]

you’d be hard pressed to find any supporters who wanted McGowan to bend over backwards for Gill and his cronies

Seems to limit your reasons to complain about having your side playing out of interstate hubs then.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It's 5 days my goodness, maybe if it's 2 weeks, mind you your Premier might do that, he's shown over and over again how scared nuts he is. It's ONE case.

 

[bh90210fan]

Seems to limit your reasons to complain about having your side playing out of interstate hubs then.

Who’s complaining?

 

[faible]

Who’s complaining?

Various West Coast supporters, I'd look back and check which ones, but I simply don't care enough.

 

[Principally]

It's 5 days my goodness, maybe if it's 2 weeks, mind you your Premier might do that, he's shown over and over again how scared nuts he is. It's ONE case.

I agree it seems like an overreaction but I don't think it's just because it's one case. It's one case who may have the UK variant and happened to visit like 30 locations over a few days while sick.

 

[Some Idiot]

It’s amazing how many Victorian posters forget about this. If their teams hadn’t of been forced out of the state due to COVID most of them wouldn’t of hubbed at all. Meanwhile, the rest were hubbing while their home states were COVID free

Under COVID restrictions, the teams shouldn't even have been allowed to leave Victoria at all, AFL moved into hubs after the other states closed their borders to Victoria for ordinary citizens.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I agree it seems like an overreaction but I don't think it's just because it's one case. It's one case who may have the UK variant and happened to visit like 30 locations over a few days while sick.

So it's ONE case that visited a number of places. Whilst NSW isn't perfect, I'm so glad our premier isn't nuts and closing the whole state down over 1 case, heck we didn't even shut down over the Norther Beaches outbreak. Tracing is the key not shutting down states.

 

[bh90210fan]

Various West Coast supporters, I'd look back and check which ones, but I simply don't care enough.

Maybe try directing your post towards them then

 

[faible]

Under COVID restrictions, the teams shouldn't even have been allowed to leave Victoria at all, AFL moved into hubs after the other states closed their borders to Victoria for ordinary citizens.

You've always been allowed to enter another state if you have a valid reason, subject to state quarantine requirements.

I know people who travelled to QLD for work when the border was closed to Victorian's during the lockdowns.

 

[bh90210fan]

So it's ONE case that visited a number of places. Whilst NSW isn't perfect, I'm so glad our premier isn't nuts and closing the whole state down over 1 case, heck we didn't even shut down over the Norther Beaches outbreak. Tracing is the key not shutting down states.

It’s a lot easier to trace people if they are contained in their homes. It’s short term pain for long term gain. Why risk everything going **** up? Look at what is happening everywhere else in the world

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It’s a lot easier to trace people if they are contained in their homes. It’s short term pain for long term gain. Why risk everything going **** up? Look at what is happening everywhere else in the world

Meanwhile look at NSW, we've done fine without lockdowns really. It's nuts, mind you I'm not that fussed. She has my vote next election that's for sure. Personally don't see lockdowns as the answer

 

[Obeanie1]

Except it was much harder for teams to transit in and out of WA, because McGowan didn't provide the allowances that Palaszczuk was willing to do.

The WA teams did also get a nice extended few month block at home (Freo played 7 straight games and had a bye in Perth, West Coast had 6 straight and a bye) so I don't think they were particualrly hard done by.

Who said anything about being hard done by?

The issue was playing AFL games in WA. We did, several teams did it just fine in fact. Yes the guidelines were not as loose as QLD but they were workable and it did work.

So the lame statement that WA made it too hard is totally incorrect. Its a statement supporters use to attempt to 'score points' in a debate when the point is invalid.

QLD made it easier, good for them. But it was proven that hubs and games in WA could be done without too much trouble. It simply meant teams hubbed in Perth not Brisbane.

 

[faible]

Who said anything about being hard done by?

The issue was playing AFL games in WA. We did, several teams did it just fine in fact. Yes the guidelines were not as loose as QLD but they were workable and it did work.

So the lame statement that WA made it too hard is totally incorrect. Its a statement supporters use to attempt to 'score points' in a debate when the point is invalid.

QLD made it easier, good for them. But it was proven that hubs and games in WA could be done without too much trouble. It simply meant teams hubbed in Perth not Brisbane.

From memory, there were points that QLD was allowing VIC & NSW sides to transit in where WA wouldn't with a two week quarantine.

 

[The 747]

<Facepalm> Admitting something seems very hard for you to do. You obviously know you are wrong.

If one club is disadvantaged you think 17 other should share that disadvantage. You have no clue.

 

[Obeanie1]

Marvel isnt our home ground. The MCG is.

We had 1 home game at our home ground.

So its only fair that WA and QLD clubs get only 1 home game at their home ground this year.

If we assume the logic being used by the whiny WA campaigners is anything close to something rational.

What a lame argument. The AFL scheduled and Hawthorn played two games at the MCG and one at Marvel to start 2020. Then every Vic team was forced to move.

= WA teams should only have 1 home game in 2021.

SA teams and QLD teams played the most home games than anyone in 2020.

So should they get no home games in 2021?

Is your suggestion 90% of games be played in Victoria in 2021?

 

[HTT]

What are you on about? The non Victorian clubs spent the majority of their seasons playing in hubs although their home states were Covid free! You reckon the Victorian clubs would’ve copped that?

It was suggested Victorian clubs would not be disadvantaged by a situation that affects them and not other clubs. However this was proven not to be the case last year. Were victorian clubs more or less disadvantaged than non-victorian counterparts last season? Given my team did not get a single game with home ground advantage, I would suggest more disadvantaged.

 

[Obeanie1]

From memory, there were points that QLD was allowing VIC & NSW sides to transit in where WA wouldn't with a two week quarantine.

Sure. QLD were much looser than WA guidelines. However it was proven that hubs in WA could and did work with more stringent guidelines.

End of the days WA proved playing AFL games in Perth was possible and with tighter pandemic controls.

That is a good thing BTW. It proves you can run an AFL season without taking additional risks with peoples health. Additional risks that QLD took. You keep 'rolling that dice' eventually something goes wrong.......in a bad way.

 

[bh90210fan]

If one club is disadvantaged you think 17 other should share that disadvantage. You have no clue.

How many need to be disadvantaged before the need to spread it around then? What’s the magic number?

 

[Obeanie1]

Various West Coast supporters, I'd look back and check which ones, but I simply don't care enough.

If you don't care stop posting.

 

[bh90210fan]

It was suggested Victorian clubs would not be disadvantaged by a situation that affects them and not other clubs. However this was proven not to be the case last year. Were victorian clubs more or less disadvantaged than non-victorian counterparts last season? Given my team did not get a single game with home ground advantage, I would suggest more disadvantaged.

Any disadvantage Victorian clubs experienced last season was solely due to their Covid situation. It was unavoidable

 

[faible]

Additional risks that QLD took. You keep 'rolling that dice' eventually something goes wrong.......in a bad way.

What additional risks?

The AFL was effectively a totally separate population to the rest of QLD, operating under more strict rules than QLD (or WA) state requirements. They also played a number of games in SA (and WA) which meant that weirdly Adelaide had more home games than Brisbane.