tucked in a manner that typically constitutes a bump.
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Trent Cotchin bump on Dylan Shiel
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No, a player doesn't have to be concussed. Been many incidents where an elbow striked the head with no concussion and suspended.
Basically, elbow to the head... High contact
But I'd look the other way. .. it's s GF, let both lads plays
He elected to not reach for the ball but braced to bump at the expense of the other player who had two arms extended reaching for the ball. Who then got a shoulder to the head, showed immediatly he was groggy but played on but was concussed and sat out the game after being assessed.
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....and what happens when a player makes that choice, it results in head high contact and the recipient is put out of the game with concussion?
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What about Dylan Shiels right to play in a grand final?
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Well, let me see. I just watched the video twice more so I could be sure. His right arm tucks in to brace for contact. He wins the football. Pretty sure he's trying to get the ball.
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Did Shiel just hand the ball to him?
You don't think Shiels head knock and resulting concussion played some role in this?
Try watching the video again, only this time do it with both eyes open.
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No, his team lost
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You might as well have posted Barry Hall hitting Staker mate. Couldn't be less like the incident in question.
Watch the video. If you can't see that two players are contesting a ground ball with one getting there a fraction of a second before the other who then braces for the inevitable contact I can't help you.
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Snake baker talking crap and flinging shot in a Richmond thread? Oh my god I'm shocked
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Watched it enough times now. Maybe you should open at least one eye?
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Sad campaigner he is
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Speak for yourself. Personally I'd like a competition that has consistency and integrity. It's farcical to think that we could have one set of rules during the regular season and then that goes out the window come finals time. Your post also implies that certain players (the "best players" as you put it) should be above the rules, which I strongly disagree with. Would you give a shit if someone like a Dan Butler or Kamdyn Mcintosh was rubbed out of a Grand Final for the same incident?
There was zero head contact..
Cotchin hits Shiel in the arm and there might have been some chin contact at worst...
Nothing in it.
The concussion came from another bump later on,
Honestly your answers are childish and tiresome.
I wasn't comparing the incidents merely pointing out that you have painted a false standard of "bracing for contact" which is not relevant for this incident because Cotchin has momentum towards the player with the ball.
This is exactly what the harsher penalties were brought in for - eradicating players causing high contact with another player while that player is in a vulnerable position when there are other options available to said player. The result, a concussion, in this incident is damning.
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If that gets a pass and the AFL decides it's okay for a bloke to drive shoulder first in to another players head who is bent over and picking up the ball, then the AFL may as well buy a container load of wheelchairs in preparation for the tsunami of brain and spinal injuries that are about to ensue.
He barely got high contact though..
It was arm contact and maybe some chin at worst...
Both going for the ball...
Is this a better comparison?
This was a fine and Menadue wasn't even concussed!
"Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the Richmond Football Club, the incident was assessed as careless conduct with low impact to the head. The incident was classified as a $1500 sanction. The player has no applicable record which impacts the penalty. An early plea enables the player to accept a $1000 sanction."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-17/swans-superstar-lance-franklin-reported-for-high-bump
So looking at the assessment there it would be careless conduct, medium impact to the head...whatever punishment that works out to be.
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The footage does not support your position.
That's upper arm with some face to his back...
Hard to say..
Let the tribunal figure it out I guess...
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You're opinions are irrelevant as you are as anti Richmond as they come. Have a spell champ
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