Trump - Harris Presidential Election 2024

[IlovethePies]

Are you aware that that site is considered and judged by Media Bias as... .

...we rate the World Socialist Web Site (WSWS) as strongly Left Biased based on promoting anti-capitalist, socialist viewpoints. We also rate them as Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to the use of some sources that promote conspiracy theories.

I am not going to pay much heed to what Media Bias says, because Media Bias itself is biased. It is a pro-capitalist website and judges other websites accordingly.

Of course a socialist website is biased. No genuine socialist would ever deny that he or she is biased. Every genuine socialist and every genuine socialist website is biased - in favour of the working class.

It just so happens that the wsws is the only website in the world that fits this description (anti-capitalist down the line). Media Bias accurately describes the wsws as "promoting anti-capitalist viewpoints". The rest of its description reflects the bias of Media Bias itself: hostility to any conceptual or political framework that opposes capitalism.

We live in class society where every standpoint, every theoretical/philosophical framework is biased, because it reflects the interest of a class, or of a particular social layer within that class.

In class society, you can say immediately that anyone who claims to be "unbiased", "neutral", "non-partisan" is a charlatan.

The truth is partisan: you can only get to the truth if you are in a fight to create positive change.

Example: medical science progressed not because scientists were "neutral" about disease and were only researching it for academic interest, but because they were committed to finding a cure for disease.

Example: what would you conclude about a historian who claimed to have a "non-biased neutral position" about Hitler, and wrote a biography of Hitler from that standpoint? You would hopefully conclude that the historian in question is hiding his true partisanship: ie his sympathy for the Nazis.

 

[jathanas]

I am not going to pay much heed to what Media Bias says, because Media Bias itself is biased. It is a pro-capitalist website and judges other websites accordingly.

Of course a socialist website is biased. No genuine socialist would ever deny that he or she is biased. Every genuine socialist and every genuine socialist website is biased - in favour of the working class.

It just so happens that the wsws is the only website in the world that fits this description (anti-capitalist down the line). Media Bias accurately describes the wsws as "promoting anti-capitalist viewpoints". The rest of its description reflects the bias of Media Bias itself: hostility to any conceptual or political framework that opposes capitalism.

We live in class society where every standpoint, every theoretical/philosophical framework is biased, because it reflects the interest of a class, or of a particular social layer within that class.

In class society, you can say immediately that anyone who claims to be "unbiased", "neutral", "non-partisan" is a charlatan.

You are oblivious to nuance.

The point Maggie was making was that your left-leaning bias will blind you from objectively assessing any solution if it is an action you identify as "a capitalist initiative".

You have zero interest in fixing society's problems. You seek revolution (and destruction).

Like most, I distrust politicians and I am acutely aware of the problems we face. Political and social.

But I'm not that dense that I can't see we're living in one of the best countries on the Earth.

People who have built something in life seek constructive solutions. You on the other hand speak like someone with nothing to lose.

You have no skin in the game which makes you untrustworthy.

"This world needs to be destroyed to be rebuilt." is hollow socialist rhetoric BS. It's also boring.

This took 5 minutes I'm never getting back, but the worst thing about this post is that it invites another response from you.

 

[IlovethePies]

You are oblivious to most nuance.

The point Maggie was making was that your left-leaning bias will blind you from objectively assessing any policy if it is an action you identify as "a capitalist initiative".

You have zero interest in fixing society's problems. You seek revolution (and destruction).

Like most, I distrust politicians and I am acutely aware of the problems we face. Political and social.

But I'm not that dense that I can't see we're living in one of the best countries on the Earth.

People who have built something in life seek constructive solutions. You on the other hand speak like someone with nothing to lose.

You have no skin in the game which makes you untrustworthy.

"This world needs to be destroyed to be rebuilt." is hollow socialist rhetoric BS. It's also boring.

This took 5 minutes I'm never getting back, but the worst thing about this post is that it invites another response from you.

Let it rest.

And i hope you keep your promise (from now on)

 

[jathanas]

Let it rest.

And i hope you keep your promise (from now on)

Easier said than done.

The bullshit you post is sensational.

Back on topic.

Good to see Harris lead in some polls and an important turnaround in the fortunes of the Dems.

 

[IlovethePies]

Easier said than done.

The bullshit you post is sensational.

Bingo. I win.

 

[jathanas]

You just broke your promise. Bingo. I win.

It's not a game ILTP.

You don't possess the manner of a winner. I am signing out of this thread for tonight. Hugs.

 

[IlovethePies]

It's not a game ILTP.

You don't possess the manner of a winner.

Who are you to judge? You're biased.

 

[IlovethePies]

I need 2 x B2B salespeople primarily working by telephone

Good base, excellent bonuses

You are a tenacious mofo

Any interest?

I am deeply hurt Walter by your description of me.

However, I am not interested in wage slavery for budding entrepreneurs like yourself.

I don't like sniping in general, but you and Jathanas bring out the worst in me.

 

[IlovethePies]

Agree, Jatha can be a bit hard to take

And he doesn't even have a boat

....and you do?
If so, respect (not)
Same for Sideswipe.
He thinks owning a boat, and being a former soldier, gives him ominiscience.
Sounds like Trump, who thinks likewise that owning Trump Tower and being a former president gives him omniscience.

 

[IlovethePies]

Clearly the only way this can be resolved once and for all is if Jathanas sends photos of himself in G-bangers and Sideswipe sends copies of his last decade of tax returns.

 

[sr36]

The name kinda gives it away.

I read a few articles on iltps site the other day - very entertaining.

I can't even remember what the best article was supposed to be about, because about 90% of the article was about a different socialist group called ISO - international socialist organisation. It just bitched about them for paragraphs whilst supposedly reporting on some other issue, referring to them to as pseudo socialists for taking the wrong stance - iso are bloody capitalist roader fake socialists.

 

[IlovethePies]

Sidey is not and was not a soldier (as a former banker, he is familiar with von Clausewitz)

Jatha will send you photos. Maybe too many. (No judgment if DILFs are your thing)


I think after a difficult few weeks you and I are bonding





Edit: staying on topic, F.U. JD Vance

Had to google DILF...
You clearly have an orientation that I don't share
Not into bonding mate.
Karmela harris might be though.
And...if you are into DILF's maybe Tim Walz as well

 

[IlovethePies]

Karmela tells anti - genocide protestors to shut up, otherwise it will be their fault if Trump wins

“I’m speaking now”: Kamala Harris denounces anti-genocide protesters at Detroit rally

Harris’ refusal to engage with the protesters confirms that war abroad and suppression of democratic rights domestically is not just the individual policy choice of “Genocide Joe,” but the shared class policy of both capitalist parties.

www.wsws.org

Only two weeks ago, Harris shook mass murderer and war criminal Netahayu's hand, and declared that Israel has "every right to defend itself" (apparently, the mass murder of at least 200 000 Palestinians constitutes "self-defence").

According to Harris, the only way possible to prevent Trump from winning is to support genocide- or, at most, shut up about it.

WTF??

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

WTF??

I do enjoy your football posts

The one you wrote last night after the loss was very good (albeit unfortunate there had been the loss)



Edit: FU JD Vance

 

[Black_White]

Karmela tells anti - genocide protestors to shut up, otherwise it will be their fault if Trump wins

“I’m speaking now”: Kamala Harris denounces anti-genocide protesters at Detroit rally

Harris’ refusal to engage with the protesters confirms that war abroad and suppression of democratic rights domestically is not just the individual policy choice of “Genocide Joe,” but the shared class policy of both capitalist parties.

www.wsws.org

According to Harris, the only way possible to prevent Trump from winning is to support genocide- or, at most, shut up about it.

WTF??

In the infamous words of EFC, “Whatever It Takes”.

Do you have any insights on Trump shaking Putin’s hand?
Or Trump shaking Kim Jong Un hand?
And saying Putin can “Do Whatever He Likes In Europe” when Trump wins.
Or about Kim Jong Un “We Fell In Love”.

Trump loves mass murders much more than Harris.
This is a simple fact from the man’s own mouth.

 

[jathanas]

It's a great factual reference for the whole family!​

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[IlovethePies]

In the infamous words of EFC, “Whatever It Takes”.

Do you have any insights on Trump shaking Putin’s hand?
Or Trump shaking Kim Jong Un hand?
And saying Putin can “Do Whatever He Likes In Europe” when Trump wins.
Or about Kim Jong Un “We Fell In Love”.

Trump loves mass murders much more than Harris.
This is a simple fact from the man’s own mouth.

I am not sure that you quite understand what I am saying. I don't support Trump. Trump is a fascist. I have said this many times.
The point I am making is that Trump would not be in a position to possibly win the election if it were not for the role of the Democrats in refusing to hold a genuine inquiry into his attempted coup, and seeking at all times to seek reconciliation with the Republicans.
Trump and Harris both represent the American capitalist class, which at the moment is:
a) carrying forward its aim to reclaim its global economic domination through militarism (which will ultimately lead to world war)
b) pondering on whether it immediately needs to rule as a dicatorship (Trump) or as a pretend democracy under the Democrats, with the Pentagon waiting behind the scenes in case the situation in the US goes out of control, and it decides afterall a military dicatorship is necessary.

The choice Trump vs Harris is an utterly bankrupt one for the millions of working Americans who seek only to survive.
Their only chance is to seek out a different political perspective.

 

[IlovethePies]

It's a great factual reference for the whole family!​

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Nice shot, jatha. Where are your g-bangers?

 

[jathanas]

Nice shot, jatha. Where are your g-bangers?

You'll never know. Everything under the desk is concealed.

 

[IlovethePies]

You'll never know. Everything under the desk is concealed.

Thank god.

 

[Maggie5]

Too funny.

Trump organisers used Celine Dion's song from Titanic movie. My Heart will go on.

Dion stated that they used it without permission. And ″...and really, THAT song?” Dion’s management team quipped, spurring mocking social media posts about the Trump campaign using music from a movie about a sinking ship.

 

[Chameleon75]

I do enjoy your football posts

The one you wrote last night after the loss was very good (albeit unfortunate there had been the loss)



Edit: FU JD Vance

nice to see you guys getting along, are you Oscar or Felix?

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

nice to see you guys getting along, are you Oscar or Felix?

Going to fund bro's hair transplant

 

[Black_White]

I am not sure that you quite understand what I am saying. I don't support Trump. Trump is a fascist. I have said this many times.
The point I am making is that Trump would not be in a position to possibly win the election if it were not for the role of the Democrats in refusing to hold a genuine inquiry into his attempted coup, and seeking at all times to seek reconciliation with the Republicans.
Trump and Harris both represent the American capitalist class, which at the moment is:
a) carrying forward its aim to reclaim its global economic domination through militarism (which will ultimately lead to world war)
b) pondering on whether it immediately needs to rule as a dicatorship (Trump) or as a pretend democracy under the Democrats, with the Pentagon waiting behind the scenes in case the situation in the US goes out of control, and it decides afterall a military dicatorship is necessary.

The choice Trump vs Harris is an utterly bankrupt one for the millions of working Americans who seek only to survive.
Their only chance is to seek out a different political perspective.

Blah, blah, blah.
And didn’t answer the direct question.
You stated that Harris must support genocide by shaking Netanyahu’s hand.
I simply asked your opinion of Trumps support of two of the most murdering leaders in the world.
And you responded with blah, blah, blah.

 

[Black_White]

I simply cannot understand why any woman would support, or vote for the Republican Party in its current form.

They called him ‘Tampon Tim’ as an insult. It backfired

Positive political role models like Tim Walz are important. He shows young men that they have nothing to fear by giving things to women – be they tampons or just some basic respect.

www.theage.com.au

There are some good ones in the party, as this article points out, but as a whole the Party is not a friend of woman or their rights to make decisions for themselves.