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Roast Ty-ragic Tyrone
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...your so right...
......an absolute dud...
......first game for the year and the kid did'nt dominate the ruck...or kick 10 goals...or hip and shouldered half the pie team into next year..
......whats to discuss?!?!?!?....
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He's not a forward 
Cathal Brugha
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Spot On. He must make it as a Ruckman/Pinch hitting forward or not at all.He's not a forward
How the hell was he supposed to impress as a young tall when he was playing a game where he had absolutely no support? He may not have shown much of anything to date but he is very young considering his size.
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Give you the tip dude, if he aint a forward which he aint, then he is destined for a career in the VFL and lower leagues. You see we also saw a player debuting in the ruck and from day one he showed a presence. None of this have to develop bullshit excuses, he put his stamp on it. Vickery atm is about as crap as you can get them and long range tip is that he will be another failed high draft pick for us.
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your an imbecile, i thought he moved quite well exactly what tall forwards had a good night ? add to that the fact from our midefield we were missing Cotchin, Deledio, Martin, Foley, Grigg, Houli, Jackson. A tall forward requires some sort of decent delivery from up the field, last night in one 15 minute period we did not get it inside our forward 50. idiot.
Cathal Brugha
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Not ready to give up on him yet but I take your point.Give you the tip dude, if he aint a forward which he aint, then he is destined for a career in the VFL and lower leagues. You see we also saw a player debuting in the ruck and from day one he showed a presence. None of this have to develop bullshit excuses, he put his stamp on it. Vickery atm is about as crap as you can get them and long range tip is that he will be another failed high draft pick for us.
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Delivery to him was rubbish and the ball was barely up there but yeah he's a long way away going by last night.
Not writing him off but I dont think I saw him take clean possession once and that's concerning.
Not writing him off but I dont think I saw him take clean possession once and that's concerning.
Give you the tip dude, if he aint a forward which he aint, then he is destined for a career in the VFL and lower leagues. You see we also saw a player debuting in the ruck and from day one he showed a presence. None of this have to develop bullshit excuses, he put his stamp on it. Vickery atm is about as crap as you can get them and long range tip is that he will be another failed high draft pick for us.
hopefully the last
zero presence
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Bit of a difference between, Derickx, who is a 23 year old 201cm & 99kg ruckman and Vickery who is yet to turn 21 and is 200cm & 95kg.Give you the tip dude, if he aint a forward which he aint, then he is destined for a career in the VFL and lower leagues. You see we also saw a player debuting in the ruck and from day one he showed a presence. None of this have to develop bullshit excuses, he put his stamp on it. Vickery atm is about as crap as you can get them and long range tip is that he will be another failed high draft pick for us.
Also a bit hard to show something when for nearly 3 quarters the ball hardly went into our F50. How about we wait and see how the kid goes when he can actually get a bit of supply.
Cathal Brugha
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That's the 'kicker'. He has 2 more seasons for mine to develop,
As Tyrone enters his third year , i honestly have not seen one passage ... one quarter , something .... anything ... that remotely suggests the kid can play .
Now blah blah blah ... yes , i know all the arguements , talls take time etc. etc. ... but i have seen nothing thus far .
Even the greatest optimist would have to have question marks .
I just hope dimma works it out sooner rather than later and makes some quick decisions rather than our traditional turning what should be a 3 year career into 7
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Get with reality RT and stop trying to find lame excuses.
Derrickx might be 2 years older and 4kg heavier, but Vickery has had 2 more years that him in the big time of the AFL system and Derrickx looked like a veteran of the game compared to Ty.
Whatever the case, those who are offering excuses and that he needs time etc etc, i can bet my bottom dollar that they to a man have grave concerns about what we have in Ty.
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Who has had 2 more seasons to develop?
Sorry but what exactly did you expect from a young ruckman who was around 85kg when drafted? Did you expect him to come in and be able to compete with guys like Sandilands Cox Jolly and the like who would all have around 15-20kg and years of experience on him. Hell even guys like Kreuzer and Natanui who were drafted around the same time had 10-15kg on him and still outweigh him 3 years later.
How about we give him a year and see how he goes now that he has the build to actually compete rather then just being brushed aside.
Give him another year in the system to see how he develops, at the moment he brings nothing to the team.
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Were we all watching the same circus?
He looked lost whenever the ball went down there, either lost or scared, been in the system 3 years reminded me of bling, lets hope its not 6 years.
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No but as a pick of the bunch ruckman, I for one did expect at least some kind of effect. This dude offers zero effect, you can stick a branch into the turf and it would offer a better contest.
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Gee you're not expecting much are you Cogga? Did you honestly expect a kid who was giving up 15-20kg to his opponents to be out there dominating in his first couple of seasons? As I just said, now that he has the build to be able to compete how about we actually give him a year to see what he can do, or is that too much to ask of a 3rd year player?Get with reality RT and stop trying to find lame excuses.
Derrickx might be 2 years older and 4kg heavier, but Vickery has had 2 more years that him in the big time of the AFL system and Derrickx looked like a veteran of the game compared to Ty.
Whatever the case, those who are offering excuses and that he needs time etc etc, i can bet my bottom dollar that they to a man have grave concerns about what we have in Ty.
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Dont sweat it coggs, we will be ok when we play the ruckman we recruited from Carltank......Grigg
I would expect "SOMETHING"
Clunk a big mark , win a couple of nice hit outs ... anything . but has shown nothing . Ben Griffiths in very limited air time showed some glimpses that there is something there ... yes ... he may take time but he has shown more in 5 games than Ty has shown in his third year in the system
Brendan Gale was the epitomy of the slow developing ruckman/forward but he always showed glimpses in that period . They all do
So far Ty has shown squat
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A pick of the bunch ruckman who was giving up anywhere between 10-20kg to his opponents. Not sure if you've ever played ruck at any level Cogga, but when your giving up that much weight and strength to an opponent you're not going to have that much of an effect on the game.No but as a pick of the bunch ruckman, I for one did expect at least some kind of effect. This dude offers zero effect, you can stick a branch into the turf and it would offer a better contest.
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who is talking about dominating FFS? All i am saying is to give us a glimpse of something. Get a tap out or 3, take a mark or 2, exert some influence on a couple of contests. FFS RT, get real on what the debate is about.
Those defending him are suggesting oh the supply wasnt there etc etc etc, what those that are bagging him are suggesting that whatever the case, from what contests he was involved in there was 0 influence on them from him. Nothing, it was if we didnt have anyone there.
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Cut the crap RT he looked out of his depth and will be another bling........other young big men have shown more.
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who is talking about dominating FFS? All i am saying is to give us a glimpse of something. Get a tap out or 3, take a mark or 2, exert some influence on a couple of contests. FFS RT, get real on what the debate is about.
I would be happy with more than one touch let alone three hitouts.
Have we ever had a player go through a game without getting a btouch of the ball?
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