Umpires influencing games: Exhibit 1 Car v Fre

[blue harvest]

Where is this in the current laws of the game?

Lots of people are also referring to the wikipedia entry for the rules of AFL and quoting " ""The free kick is awarded at the spot where the kick or handpass lands or is first possessed, to the nearest player to the spot (unless the disposal is backwards, or the ball lands out of bounds or through for a behind, in which case the free kick is awarded to the infringed player at the spot of the infringement"

However neither of the above are in the current laws of the game:

https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2019/12/04/d8d5f2cf-04eb-4530-b2d5-5cc799ff625c/2019-Laws-of-Australian-Football.pdf

I give up. There's not even an objective set of rules I can find to sort this out. What a mess the AFL has become.

https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020-Laws-of-Australian-Football.pdf

Wiki means nothing, anyone can put stuff on there.

 

[Foucault1989]

You could see it clearly. #VICBIAS is real. Gil was communicating to the umps via the ear pieces. WA and SA clubs should leave this corrupt league in protest.

Goes deeper than that my friend. Russia and China involved, apparently Kim Jong even had an interest in this result. Victoria must always win!

 

[blue harvest]

Except for the fact you cant pay a downfield free kick when it goes oof.

Source?

 

[Dazza the Viking]

For an example If I go to punch a ball and miss the ball and hit a player in the head instead the fact it was incidental or accidental makes no difference it’s still a free kick!

It was soft as butter, Docherty milked it, should be fine for taking a dive, but he won’t because, that admit the umpire made a mistake, we can’t have that. Also Brayshaw was trying to smother the ball, he didn’t come in with a hip shoulder.

 

[Foucault1989]

Longuir said basically the same thing about the free kick, Brayshaw was trying to smother ball and made contact

Important point there is 'made contact'.

 

[chinggis77]

https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020-Laws-of-Australian-Football.pdf

Wiki means nothing, anyone can put stuff on there.

Yes that’s what I said. The wiki entry is bullsh*te as it doesn’t exist I the actual laws of the game which I included in the link. I can’t find the relevant clause in the AFLs official laws though

 

[GPW1]

I look forward to the mental gymnastics the afl will come up with to justify the umpires decisions as being 100% correct.

 

[Tjblues]

It was soft as butter, Docherty milked it, should be fine for taking a dive, but he won’t because, that admit the umpire made a mistake, we can’t have that

It was a soft free but it absolutely wasn’t a dive. He’s in his kicking motion, off balance, hit front on by a bloke in the air. Of course he fell over, so would anyone

 

[raffrox]

Winners are Grinners. Losers can please themselves.

Love it that someone who supports a team that got caught straight out cheating with cash in brown paper bags under the table is called Cash is King

Especially it clearly wasn't for the Blues and you've been crap ever since.

 

[Dazza the Viking]

Important point there is 'made contact'.

Soft contact, was trying to smother the ball, go back and look at it

 

[Foucault1989]

Soft contact, was trying to smother the ball, go back and look at it

Ah ah ah, you said it again, contact.

 

[Dazza the Viking]

It was a soft free but it absolutely wasn’t a dive. He’s in his kicking motion, off balance, hit front on by a bloke in the air. Of course he fell over, so would anyone

In the air trying to smother it, didn’t you see where Brayshaw arms were

 

[PorcelainBus]

Important point there is 'made contact'.

If "made contact" is the prerequisite then there would 30/40 downfield's every game?

 

[BigPond101]

Freo were given 2 goals by the umpire in the first quarter, with heavy rain it should have just about been enough for them to win

 

[Dazza the Viking]

Ah ah ah, you said it again, contact.

Since when the has AFL become a non contact game

 

[Foucault1989]

In the air trying to smother it, didn’t you see where Brayshaw arms were

Yep, on Docherty's body as he jumped into him.

I think the downfield was dubious, Gibbons should have been the kicker, but the contact was there after he kicked it.

 

[D-N-R]

The rules of the game that I have a copy of (2019 Laws of the Game) don't have anything about downfield frees at all.

 

[Halftimehero]

Geez not only was it the wrong call to award the down field free, let the wrong bloke take the kick, they’ve bloody let him take the shot at least 10m closer than he should have. What a **** up

 

[Foucault1989]

If "made contact" is the prerequisite then there would 30/40 downfield's every game?

Late contact after he disposed of the ball. Whether it was incidental is irrelevant, he knocked a guy over after he kicked it. Contact

 

[Turnover]

Throwing the ball after taking a Mark. Jones to betts. Lol. Amateurs.

 

[MileHigh]

The ball left the field of play after ThE contact was made. It’s Beside the point anyway. It’s about the WHEN the player made contact with Docherty, which was after he kicked it. That alone is what determines the whether it is downfield or “as he kicked it”.

Downfield is paid to where the ball landed Or, in this instance, where it exited the field of play.

It was adjudicated correctly.

Agreed but Fisher gave away a free kick for in the back as a player kicked it and it was brought back. It needs to be down the ground every time but inconsistent umpiring. Correct decision made. Newnes. Just Newnes

 

[Foucault1989]

With umpiring this season, it is a bloody gamble. It is so consistently poor.

 

[Davey33]

I can only assume you turned on after 1/4 time and missed the charity offered to freo that ended up being 40% of there goals for the night

"their" goals

 

[Underarm]

I look forward to the mental gymnastics the afl will come up with to justify the umpires decisions as being 100% correct.

All they have to do is show the rule book.

 

[Rod Stroker]

To me there were 3 critical decisions:

1) deliberate. Was there technically because the Freo player (Taberner?) knocked it towards the line and had no intention to keep the ball in

2) front on contact. I thought it was there. Brayshaw made himself airborne and made head high contact with Docherty.

3) Newnes as the recipient. This to me was the wrong call as he wasn't the closest player to where the free was paid downfield. Should have gone to Gibbons, and if it does, and I doubt he kicks the goal to win.