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beema limapep said:
Nightmare fuel incoming....
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not to undersell or paint over that 1st half just bc we're in front,as im about to watch this 2nd half and with the aid of time to think n reflect since viewing
ive come to realise n im serious here that its quite disturbing whats taken place out there in the 2nd qtr in the scheme that 36 guys @ one time are all trying theyre guts out and to my eyes none of them so far have tried to do anything untoward or illegal thus far,yet 1 obvious FK against Hunter is not paid & the failure to recall that bounce ? there are no words....these are the ones that grate,the ones you dont get,even tho the bounce is not a FK its ethics,the 3 x 50mtrs penalties ? corruption is all i can think of,in fact 'unethical' is the word ive been searching for to describe what went down in the 2nd.
 
3rd Qtr

wow brilliant opening,was expecting TT to get called too high on the tackle but didnt,hmmm mighta dodged one there ?im gonna say this makes up for the missed Hunter indescretion in the 2nd
freak reply by the melb spud,nuthin ya can do bout that.
ok observation here, Soldo gets a CBounce clearly in his favour which isnt recalled, he smacks it fwd n the goat goals,that makes up for the 2nd qtr 1 max got
the games at elite level and when played in natural motion, we're the superior team,the commentators are loving it n so am i,theres only the 2 x 50mtr
howlers to be reimbursed now,one which resulted in a goal so a 26pt lead n not 20 would be apt of where this games at

Grimes drops a wet slippery ball with body pressure from Trac,not much ya can do,not a howler,play on
correct call on Hopper downfield FK to Tiges,so far so good ,one thing im noticing all of a sudden Richmond going long down the line last 3 fwd entries
creativity drying up a little ? still 14 up,should be 20.
Ridiculous handball by JR8 to that unattended spud,that was a tired effort,not up to standard
wow cotch with a huge opportunity,shoulda kicked that,we're still the bettr team n scumps been vgood this qtr thus far,shai throw was there

*geez what can ya say bout Balta,ya just dont do it,thts just pure stupidity on his behalf,dont give these maggots an excuse,sorry but that 50's on Balta
JGTI,hmmm struggling for finesse,the spuds have amped it up,DRioli has been magnificent
JGTI got away with a dropping the ball so Mays on the wing is fair enuff play on,we're still owed one (a goal) from the hopper 50
Pettys dominance is disturbing,its not all on Balta,Pettys doin a Shane Ellen, FMD
our players have become messy with ball in hand all of a sudden,thats pressure

*picketts almost taken mark of the century

*Corruption # 4, OMG Dylan, & a goal as aresult but the free is not given to the tackler , WTF ? Petty shoulda been the kicker,an enquiry ffs
also our disposal and composure has turned to mud all of a sudden.

Coulthard for Miller is an instant success but whos gonna relieve Ivan ? surely not marlion ?

in summary this qtr was pretty fairly umpired imo,im giving the scumps 7/10, few decisions went our way,the 50 aginst Balta was there n so the free for deliberate gainst Dylan
but Petty not taking the kick is corrupt so we're owed 2 goals as i see it,we're not the best side on the park now,once Goat n shai get quelled we struggle
Mansell,Ross,Banks & Miller had very quiet qtrs and Hopper,cotch,JGTI n JR8 are just unsighted,geez i know Melb are top 4 but 700k for Hopper is looking
confetti,the number #1 midfielder in the game isnt even playing n Petracca is 40% fwd,big Ivan has battled manfully but is looking spent.
DRioli,Shai,TT,Vlaustin,Goat,Ross,Big Ivan n Marls our best along with Broady so far,we've had 2 howlers(one wich resulted in a goal) and a corrupt transfer of kicker go against us thus far,its enuff to have us not in front n adjudicated fairly we should be 1goal up @ 3qtr time even tho they had it on their terms last 7-8 mins
 
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lumpinee said:
3rd Qtr

wow brilliant opening,was expecting TT to get called too high on the tackle but didnt,hmmm mighta dodged one there ?im gonna say this makes up for the missed Hunter indescretion in the 2nd
freak reply by the melb spud,nuthin ya can do bout that.
ok observation here, Soldo gets a CBounce clearly in his favour which isnt recalled, he smacks it fwd n the goat goals,that makes up for the 2nd qtr 1 max got
the games at elite level and when played in natural motion, we're the superior team,the commentators are loving it n so am i,theres only the 2 x 50mtr
howlers to be reimbursed now,one which resulted in a goal so a 26pt lead n not 20 would be apt of where this games at

Grimes drops a wet slippery ball with body pressure from Trac,not much ya can do,not a howler,play on
correct call on Hopper downfield FK to Tiges,so far so good ,one thing im noticing all of a sudden Richmond going long down the line last 3 fwd entries
creativity drying up a little ? still 14 up,should be 20.
Ridiculous handball by JR8 to that unattended spud,that was a tired effort,not up to standard
wow cotch with a huge opportunity,shoulda kicked that,we're still the bettr team n scumps been vgood this qtr thus far,shai throw was there

*geez what can ya say bout Balta,ya just dont do it,thts just pure stupidity on his behalf,dont give these maggots an excuse,sorry but that 50's on Balta
JGTI,hmmm struggling for finesse,the spuds have amped it up,DRioli has been magnificent
JGTI got away with a dropping the ball so Mays on the wing is fair enuff play on,we're still owed one (a goal) from the hopper 50
Pettys dominance is disturbing,its not all on Balta,Pettys doin a Shane Ellen, FMD
our players have become messy with ball in hand all of a sudden,thats pressure

*picketts almost taken mark of the century

*Corruption # 4, OMG Dylan, & a goal as aresult but the free is not given to the tackler , WTF ? Petty shoulda been the kicker,an enquiry ?
also our disposal and composure has turned to mud all of a sudden.

Coulthard for Miller is an instant success but whos gonna relieve Ivan ? surely not marlion ?

in summary this qtr was pretty fairly umpired imo,im giving the scumps 7/10, few decisions went our way,the 50 aginst Balta was there n so the free for deliberate gainst Dylan
but Petty not taking the kick is corrupt so we're owed 2 goals as i see it,we're not the best side on the park now,once Goat n shai get quelled we struggle
Mansell,Ross,Banks & Miller had very quiet qtrs and Hopper,cotch,JGTI n JR8 are just unsighted,geez i know Melb are top 4 but 700k for Hopper is looking
confetti,the number #1 midfielder in the game isnt even playing n Petracca is 40% fwd,big Ivan has battled manfully but is looking spent.
DRioli,Shai,TT,Vlaustin,Goat,Ross,Big Ivan n Marls our best along with Broady so far,we've had 2 howlers(one wich resulted in a goal) and a corrupt transfer of kicker go against us thus far,its enuff to have us not in front n adjudicated fairly we should be 1goal up @ 3qtr time even tho they had it on their terms last 7-8 mins
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No mention of the holding the balls against us? There were 2 howlers off the top of my head. The umps interpretation changed during the match, were not consistent. No mention of Viney taking the legs from Dion (as mentioned above), ball was forward of centre. No mention of K.Picketts late charge on Mansell disposing the ball considering we got pinged for this just last week.

Thanks for the analysis, good read but I think you need to re-watch the game again. LOL
 
beema limapep said:
Naive. Read The Boys Club. Look at the detailed statistical analysis provided by posters on the main board.
Consider 1 afl ump has been caught leaking brownlow votes.
Consider its the same industry that has seen multiple salary cap cheating and banned substances including whole club programs.
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stick to the subject matter m8. some peeps here are suggesting all the errors, mistakes, oversights etc are a conspiracy to get us. it's flat earth stuff.
 
Coach_Required said:
No mention of the holding the balls against us? There were 2 howlers off the top of my head. The umps interpretation changed during the match, were not consistent. No mention of Viney taking the legs from Dion (as mentioned above), ball was forward of centre. No mention of K.Picketts late charge on Mansell disposing the ball considering we got pinged for this just last week.

Thanks for the analysis, good read but I think you need to re-watch the game again. LOL
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JGTI dropping the pill,no free paid ? there are definitely even ones not paid their way, Young coulda got pinged for over the shoulder on Hunter 20 mts out,anyway i'll look for the Viney taking the legs,ive looked at 3 qtrs and 4mins into the last and just watched Hopper bomb it outta D50 straight down the line to Gawn(where shai almost takes a screamer) but still its straight at Gawn n now Balta breakaway n kick it down the throat of a lone demons player 30 mtrs away, i mean they are just 2 dumb kicks,the signs arent good,its now been 10-12 minutes of actual play where we've been muddy and terrible with ball in hand and disposal wise,im not suprised of the scoreline considering n to me justifiably we'd be no more than 6 points up with them playing all over the top of us and we've stopped lowering the eyes as well,anyway theres 25 mins to go i'll look on

can ya point out this taking of dions legs ? time stamp ?

just saw the hit on Mansell by Pickett after disposal,hes a flipping dog,shoulda been downfield n 50,disgraceful non decision
 
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4th Qtr

ok the first thing i notice is we look tired,sheemons are full of run and as ive mentioned Hoppers kick down the line to Max and Balta hitting oppos on the chest is s**t football

* FK against TT is tuff,lets see how the rest of the game gets adjudicated
we continue to look scrappy and our best 2 players are not getting involved and havent been involved in over 14 minutes of play,almost 1/2 a qtr
* Hopper gets pinged ? not a FK.
so thats untha 2 howlers against us n 3 for the game with the transfer of kicker making it 4 thus far.
as soon as the goat gets involved goal to macca. pure play, by rights we should be 10-12 points up

* wow Balta move fwd pays instant dividends ,Dangerflog is a campaigner of a commentator,wants us to lose,says Balta may have scaped the point post,campaigner of the highest order.

im looking fwd to these last 14 mins as weve regained our momentum and lowering the eyes,yes we've had 2 tuff HTB decisions go against us,lets see what unfolds

*GAGFD Corruption # 5 FK against TT ?,thats cheating,in the context of the game so far 3 assists from the umpires in the last qtr so far, let alone the game is enuff to swing the tide,horrendous umpiring

*Ok enuff is enuff, Corruption #6 the late hit on Mansell by pickett is a flipping disgrace,no FK paid, CFL
the commentators are a disgrace as well,oughtta be ashamed to be employed by these shysters

Corruption #7 Ross caught high Centre wing no FK,geez these non decisions r coming thick n fast

Gt fkd petty,good goal but get fkd,Gawn mauling Balta legally

geez Gawns dominating now,we have no match,perfect tackle on Dion gotta pay that HTB,so Ivans spent n we need Miller,id say the sub has backfired

Corruption #8 Broad tackled high by that POS in the GSQ,ive seen enuff now Busy,theres needs to be a please explain to the club n demand
it,theres enuff evidence in this game for a full enquiry and still 8 mins to go but ive seen enuff to justify making the decision not to go this year
on account of a dirty deck being dealt
n this game is one of the dirtiest decks ever used,one word,disgraceful.
 
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Not Important said:
of course, umpires make blues that sometimes affect results.

but peeps suggesting:

1. the a.f.l has it in for us and directs umps to do us in.

2. we are targeted and there's some sort of conspiracy to ensure we are unsuccessful.

3. our poor on-field performances are wholly or substantially due to the afl/umpires not wanting us to win.

now that is dumb at trump levels and embarrassing.
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You see, you are missing it. It's not really the points you listed, its the simple fact that any player in a Richmond jumper is umpired differently in most cases then any other club, there is heaps of proof of that. Look at Tim and Hopper's reactions on Sunday. Tim even went to the umpire complaining his arm is being dragged down at every bounce and could not believe he was not getting a free kick. You could just read his face saying in GWS that never happens and so often :p

Now with umpires being so technical with tigers and paying free's against while against our opponents they seem to let go the exact same incidient, is that intentional ? Not for the majority. Why it's happening is simple. Hocking used when educating the umpirs on rules to crack down on, used a lot of video of tiger players in what to look out for, so guess what ? When you focus on one side, you tend to ignore what the other side has done.

The issue now, its got so bad, obvious and blatant free kicks for are not being paid. Soldo bending down to get the ball in our forward line, gets charged into and cracked in the head, full view of two umps, let go. Pickett getting closed lined, full view of 3 of the 4, let go. Jack hardly gets a free, hell, all our forwards have received less free kicks then any other side this year, the year before that. We have been bottom 4 in like the last 5 years lol.

If you want data to prove it, then go look at it. every side 93% that plays us concedes close to 40% less free kicks then they do normally ? If you seriously believe that every side when they play us improve discipline and naturally concede less when they play us, now that is some trump levels of embarrassing.
 

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Tiger71 said:
You see, you are missing it. It's not really the points you listed, its the simple fact that any player in a Richmond jumper is umpired differently in most cases then any other club, there is heaps of proof of that. Look at Tim and Hopper's reactions on Sunday. Tim even went to the umpire complaining his arm is being dragged down at every bounce and could not believe he was not getting a free kick. You could just read his face saying in GWS that never happens and so often :p

Now with umpires being so technical with tigers and paying free's against while against our opponents they seem to let go the exact same incidient, is that intentional ? Not for the majority. Why it's happening is simple. Hocking used when educating the umpirs on rules to crack down on, used a lot of video of tiger players in what to look out for, so guess what ? When you focus on one side, you tend to ignore what the other side has done.

The issue now, its got so bad, obvious and blatant free kicks for are not being paid. Soldo bending down to get the ball in our forward line, gets charged into and cracked in the head, full view of two umps, let go. Pickett getting closed lined, full view of 3 of the 4, let go. Jack hardly gets a free, hell, all our forwards have received less free kicks then any other side this year, the year before that. We have been bottom 4 in like the last 5 years lol.

If you want data to prove it, then go look at it. every side 93% that plays us concedes close to 40% less free kicks then they do normally ? If you seriously believe that every side when they play us improve discipline and naturally concede less when they play us, now that is some trump levels of embarrassing.
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Those stats are truely alarming. Even worse when oppo fans can now see the treatment we are getting.
 
Tiger71 said:
You see, you are missing it. It's not really the points you listed, its the simple fact that any player in a Richmond jumper is umpired differently in most cases then any other club, there is heaps of proof of that. Look at Tim and Hopper's reactions on Sunday. Tim even went to the umpire complaining his arm is being dragged down at every bounce and could not believe he was not getting a free kick. You could just read his face saying in GWS that never happens and so often :p

Now with umpires being so technical with tigers and paying free's against while against our opponents they seem to let go the exact same incidient, is that intentional ? Not for the majority. Why it's happening is simple. Hocking used when educating the umpirs on rules to crack down on, used a lot of video of tiger players in what to look out for, so guess what ? When you focus on one side, you tend to ignore what the other side has done.

The issue now, its got so bad, obvious and blatant free kicks for are not being paid. Soldo bending down to get the ball in our forward line, gets charged into and cracked in the head, full view of two umps, let go. Pickett getting closed lined, full view of 3 of the 4, let go. Jack hardly gets a free, hell, all our forwards have received less free kicks then any other side this year, the year before that. We have been bottom 4 in like the last 5 years lol.

If you want data to prove it, then go look at it. every side 93% that plays us concedes close to 40% less free kicks then they do normally ? If you seriously believe that every side when they play us improve discipline and naturally concede less when they play us, now that is some trump levels of embarrassing.
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You were doing so well and I was agreeing with every word you were saying, then you had to stick it donald,
 
the reaming wasnt bad enough in 17,19,20 for it to stop our flags. If they had umpired us in 17,19,20 the way they have umpired us in 21,22 and 23 then there is no dynasty. its that simple

its like after 2020 the afl used the misdemeanors on the gold coast as a reason to ream us and combine that with the stand rule which was brought in to stop us winning flags and the dissent rule which we are the biggest beneficiaries of and you get your answer why we arent in contention again

they do not want one club winning all the time which was very possible for rfc if the afl didn't do this to us. if they let it play out naturally this group was looking at 4 flags minimum , maybe even 5 +
 
Groupie_ said:
the reaming wasnt bad enough in 17,19,20 for it to stop our flags. If they had umpired us in 17,19,20 the way they have umpired us in 21,22 and 23 then there is no dynasty. its that simple

its like after 2020 the afl used the misdemeanors on the gold coast as a reason to ream us and combine that with the stand rule which was brought in to stop us winning flags and the dissent rule which we are the biggest beneficiaries of and you get your answer why we arent in contention again

they do not want one club winning all the time which was very possible for rfc if the afl didn't do this to us. if they let it play out naturally this group was looking at 4 flags minimum , maybe even 5 +
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I suspected that...we were looking awesome...even with Rancey leaving...then the clamps came...could not put my exact finga onnit...but in general, things became an issue for the Club...what a waste of a great side in full flight!
 
Tiger71 said:
You see, you are missing it. It's not really the points you listed, its the simple fact that any player in a Richmond jumper is umpired differently in most cases then any other club, there is heaps of proof of that. Look at Tim and Hopper's reactions on Sunday. Tim even went to the umpire complaining his arm is being dragged down at every bounce and could not believe he was not getting a free kick. You could just read his face saying in GWS that never happens and so often :p

Now with umpires being so technical with tigers and paying free's against while against our opponents they seem to let go the exact same incidient, is that intentional ? Not for the majority. Why it's happening is simple. Hocking used when educating the umpirs on rules to crack down on, used a lot of video of tiger players in what to look out for, so guess what ? When you focus on one side, you tend to ignore what the other side has done.

The issue now, its got so bad, obvious and blatant free kicks for are not being paid. Soldo bending down to get the ball in our forward line, gets charged into and cracked in the head, full view of two umps, let go. Pickett getting closed lined, full view of 3 of the 4, let go. Jack hardly gets a free, hell, all our forwards have received less free kicks then any other side this year, the year before that. We have been bottom 4 in like the last 5 years lol.

If you want data to prove it, then go look at it. every side 93% that plays us concedes close to 40% less free kicks then they do normally ? If you seriously believe that every side when they play us improve discipline and naturally concede less when they play us, now that is some trump levels of embarrassing.
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Globe Earther here.
Well said.
 
GhostofJimJess said:
And how's the "advantage" that was paid there to Sydney? Scandalous.

Compared to the advantage disallowed to Bolton on Sunday, where the ball was kicked 20 metres from the contest to him in the natural flow of play, then brought right back for one of our guys to take the free kick?
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Disgrace these cheats.
 
SavDog23 said:


And guess who they'll test it on in the first game this round?

We are going to have 10x 50m against us.
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Much like the Carlton game years ago. Come the Saturday it won’t be enforced.
 
Truetiger said:
Much like the Carlton game years ago. Come the Saturday it won’t be enforced.
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blooze wouldve lost to us again that game if they didnt rort us with all the stand rule 50s
 

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