Unashamed Crows supporter

[Bovo]

I’m going against the grain here. I have been a member since 1998 and endured all the ups and downs that come with following an AFL team. I’ve come to a point in my life where my investment into football is purely entertainment. I like a win, but I’m also okay with a loss. I once dedicated my time to knowing every crows player and everything I could about the club. I then started gambling with our club. No not money, but instead my emotions. I’d put all my emotions on the table and if we win, I’d be elated and happy, but if we lost I’d be angry, and unhappy. I gave up control of my emotions to a bunch of blokes kicking a ball around, and it took me a long time to realise that was actually NOT Okay, especially if I non-deliberately took it out on my loved ones.

So where am I going with all this? As much as I want us to win, I’m actually okay when we lose. I’m also not worried about the coach win/loss record or whether he’s the right man for the job. I mean I’d like him to try the kids more, but I’m not going to lose sleep over it. I’m also not too concerned about whether players like Smith, McHenry or Murphy play well or not. I just want to watch the footy and see what happens. So this is not an “all is rosy at the AFC” thread, but it’s not an “oh my god we’re gonna die” thread either. It’s just a I love the club and I just am going to enjoy the ride. Surely I’m not alone in this realisation?

 

[nummy217]

Lol

 

[WetCrow1991]

I’m going against the grain here. I have been a member since 1998 and endured all the ups and downs that come with following an AFL team. I’ve come to a point in my life where my investment into football is purely entertainment. I like a win, but I’m also okay with a loss. I once dedicated my time to knowing every crows player and everything I could about the club. I then started gambling with our club. No not money, but instead my emotions. I’d put all my emotions on the table and if we win, I’d be elated and happy, but if we lost I’d be angry, and unhappy. I gave up control of my emotions to a bunch of blokes kicking a ball around, and it took me a long time to realise that was actually NOT Okay, especially if I non-deliberately took it out on my loved ones.

So where am I going with all this? As much as I want us to win, I’m actually okay when we lose. I’m also not worried about the coach win/loss record or whether he’s the right man for the job. I mean I’d like him to try the kids more, but I’m not going to lose sleep over it. I’m also not too concerned about whether players like Smith, McHenry or Murphy play well or not. I just want to watch the footy and see what happens. So this is not an “all is rosy at the AFC” thread, but it’s not an “oh my god we’re gonna die” thread either. It’s just a I love the club and I just am going to enjoy the ride. Surely I’m not alone in this realisation?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I don't think it's wrong to go down that road. I just think it's sad the club has driven you to apathy as a self defense mechanism.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[Stephen2]

This is very emotionally healthy gj

For me, I like the optimism and excitement for a win that comes with following a sports team. So when I have to slog through years of Nicks, McHenry, Murphy et al... it's worse for me as my optimism goes away.

Now all I can look forward to is a sacking to rekindle my hope.

So each week I watch the guys play, enjoy the good stuff some do, and just chuckle at the predictably stupid stuff and losses that you can see coming a mile away.

But I don't have hope, or optimism right now, and it's been too long since I was allowed that. Early 2023 I had it for a while... but it pretty quickly died, and 2024 was oh so predictable!

Waiting, waiting...

 

[Pugsley]

I do need a new TV after last night.

 

[Bovo]

I don't think it's wrong to go down that road. I just think it's sad the club has driven you to apathy as a self defense mechanism.

Have you changed your avatar? I seem to recall it was a comic character? I might have you confused though

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Have you changed your avatar? I seem to recall it was a comic character? I might have you confused though

Joaquin Phoenix made the Joker a symbol for incels so I had to do away with it.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Watching the Crows seeking entertainment makes it worse tbh

 

[Twist_of_Lemon]

Watching the Crows seeking entertainment makes it worse tbh

Masochism is a thing that gets some people going. Just ask kirky.

 

[relapse]

I have to be honest and admit I felt a sense of relief when I found out that there was about 90 seconds left and Richmond were safe and we weren't going to pinch the game.

The iceberg was always coming at some point and as bizarre as it sounds it actually felt therapeutic to finally hit it.

 

[footy4ever]

Nope.



Nope is all.

 

[SydCrow]

I have to be honest and admit I felt a sense of relief when I found out that there was about 90 seconds left and Richmond were safe and we weren't going to pinch the game.

The iceberg was always coming at some point and as bizarre as it sounds it actually felt therapeutic to finally hit it.

Yep I felt the same. Didn't want Richmond to win but the problems were all laid bare for the whole world to see on Thursday night prime time.

On SM-S901E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I have to be honest and admit I felt a sense of relief when I found out that there was about 90 seconds left and Richmond were safe and we weren't going to pinch the game.

The iceberg was always coming at some point and as bizarre as it sounds it actually felt therapeutic to finally hit it.

Yep same. Full blown barracking for our opposition now. We need the picks, we need Nicks gone.

 

[Harris1991]

This thread is an example of one of the main reasons why this club is a basket case.

 

[relapse]

This thread is an example of one of the main reasons why this club is a basket case.

Really, what's the answer then...

Backing in a subpar coaching group, letting them get their hands on another first rounder that they will poorly develop?

Backing in recruiters who have consistently burned pick after pick and the same list manager who been there for 10 years and delivered nothing?

I would have thought the failure by those in charge are the primary reason why the club is basket case, not those who genuinely want to succeed and prosper and know that change is needed for that to happen.

 

[Harris1991]

I have to be honest and admit I felt a sense of relief when I found out that there was about 90 seconds left and Richmond were safe and we weren't going to pinch the game.

The iceberg was always coming at some point and as bizarre as it sounds it actually felt therapeutic to finally hit it.

We've hit it but the problem is there are many more behind it coming our way.

I was actually relieved in 2018 when it was obvious a deep rebuild would be required. Finally, after two decades of just making up the numbers with largely average players we had no choice but to bottom out and get those elite top 7 picks that you need to build a genuine 3-to-5-year premiership window. However, no one, not even long-suffering Crows supporters, could have predicted the drafting/development disaster that was about to come our way.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

This thread is an example of one of the main reasons why this club is a basket case.

Bigfooty is not the problem. The happy clappers are a small minority here. The dude that rang up 5AA last night and complained about ROB being dropped is the kind of supporter we need less of.

 

[Harris1991]

Really, what's the answer then...

Backing in a subpar coaching group, letting them get their hands on another first rounder that they will poorly develop?

Backing in recruiters who have consistently burned pick after pick and the same list manager who been there for 10 years and delivered nothing?

I would have thought the failure by those in charge are the primary reason why the club is basket case, not those who genuinely want to succeed and prosper and know that change is needed for that to happen.

I'm disagreeing with the original post. Rather than being okay with a loss we need a supporter base who demands a better club. A winning club. A club that should be among the top 6 clubs in the competition both on and off the field.

If the majority of the supporter base have the same low expectations, then we really are screwed.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I'm disagreeing with the original post. Rather than being okay with a loss we need a supporter base who demands a better club. A winning club. A club that should be among the top 6 clubs in the competition both on and off the field.

If the majority of the supporter base have the same low expectations, then we really are screwed.

I don't really take the OP at face value. It reads like self delusion as a means of coping. "I'm fine with what's going on. I'm not crying, you're crying" etc.

 

[MarcusP2]

I don't really take the OP at face value. It reads like self delusion as a means of coping. "I'm fine with what's going on. I'm not crying, you're crying" etc.

I think more what he's getting at is...I take enjoyment from the good times. If we lose, it's not going to affect my emotional state in any particular way. I have no influence over the outcome, and while I would prefer the club to win, I'm going to support them even when they're shit. Doesn't mean I think they're all competent and great and support all of their decisions ('happy clapper').

I actually think the vast majority of the supporters are like this.

Edit: As an example, I greatly enjoyed the thrashing of West Coast. It was fun to watch. I felt good for the team. I didn't have any thought that it meant we had 'turned a corner' or anything or that Nicks had become a good coach. I felt the opposite last night. But I'm not going to be dumping manure on the club. Most people that aren't Bigfooty tragics don't have that level of emotional investment, and pretending that 'they're not real supporters' and 'you're the reason the club is shit' is just ridiculous.

 

[Bovo]

Watching the Crows seeking entertainment makes it worse tbh

Yeah it can be

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I think more what he's getting at is...I take enjoyment from the good times. If we lose, it's not going to affect my emotional state in any particular way. I have no influence over the outcome, and while I would prefer the club to win, I'm going to support them even when they're shit. Doesn't mean I think they're all competent and great and support all of their decisions ('happy clapper').

I actually think the vast majority of the supporters are like this.

I like the idea of stoicism. Don't let things that are out of your own personal control bother you. Makes sense. I'm not sure hanging out on an internet forum for 15 years discussing the Crows is the best way to live the stoic life though.

 

[SugarShane]

Watching the Crows seeking entertainment makes it worse tbh

Many of us are horror fans.

Freddy Vs Jason. Alien Vs Predator. Crows Vs Expectation.