Social Science Unpopular Opinions you have (non-football) Part II

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Ive been involved with an organisation called Stand Up (Russell Greenes daughter started it) for a while, i stopped playing footy in 2010 and i can honestly say i absolutley would have used homophobic slurs (not directed at homosexuals more the standard "thats gay" type stuff that existed back then) when i played. I dont consider myself a homophobic person, im staunchly pro equality and marched in Sydney for gay marriage but that doesnt change that fact that i was an immature arrogant dickhead as a teenager.

The irony is in working out how many blokes i played with (i was in representative teams, TAC and VFL) and subsuequently showered with ive almost certainly been naked with more gay men than most actual gay men, statistically speaking, yet also never played with a single openly gay teammate. Its pretty sad that an environment like that, which is generally so accepting and supportive is still such a frigthening environment for that barrier.

The whole groping, ass slapping, cross dressing (check out every mad monday ever) generally homo-erotic nature of footy clubs is, if anything an extension of and weird psuedo defence to the fact that alot of what happens at footy clubs is pretty homo-erotic. I never considered any of the (what on reflection is truly weird) behaviour we engaged in to be homosexual in nature and that includes all the stuff were now seeing with the AFL teams and more.

I think by nature, alot of pretty standard social norms are blurred in the footy club environment (communal showers are not standard practise many places outside of the footy club world) and thus alot of the behaviour looks truly bizarre and probably sexual and offensive to any one outside that bubble but i really dont think what we saw from the Saints and Tigers was sexual or racially motivated.
I played a couple of seasons in the amateurs in the early 90s before my much lauded premature retirement, I wasn't yet out but it wasn't an environment that I would have felt comfortable in being out and I'm still the only out gay player to have played cricket for my club.
 
I played a couple of seasons in the amateurs in the early 90s before my much lauded premature retirement, I wasn't yet out but it wasn't an environment that I would have felt comfortable in being out and I'm still the only out gay player to have played cricket for my club.

I suspect that is absolutely still the case for most people and most sporting clubs, which is really sad.
 
(maybe) Appropriate thread for this but this whole thing felt a bit like "black man can't speak for himself so I'm going to speak on his behalf".
 

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My opinion is that hot weather sucks. I hate it. I dread it every year around the end of September. There’s nothing good about hot weather. The beach is messy, annoying, busy, there’s flies everywhere. The heat brings ants, mosquitos. There’s always bushfires. I hate people that get away in winter for ‘warmer weather’.

In summer people are like sheep. Predictable and annoying. They all go to the same places, everything is busier, everything is more expensive. Summer is grossly overrated. If I could id pack up and live in the UK for the winter then come back for our autumn to start of spring.

It’s also getting extreme weather wise, summer used to be ok because a hot day was 35. And extreme day was 38. Now a hot day is 41 and an extreme day is 47. I’ve no doubt this summer we will have some temperature breaking records in Melbourne.
 
Ive been involved with an organisation called Stand Up (Russell Greenes daughter started it) for a while, i stopped playing footy in 2010 and i can honestly say i absolutley would have used homophobic slurs (not directed at homosexuals more the standard "thats gay" type stuff that existed back then) when i played. I dont consider myself a homophobic person, im staunchly pro equality and marched in Sydney for gay marriage but that doesnt change that fact that i was an immature arrogant dickhead as a teenager.

The irony is in working out how many blokes i played with (i was in representative teams, TAC and VFL) and subsuequently showered with ive almost certainly been naked with more gay men than most actual gay men, statistically speaking, yet also never played with a single openly gay teammate. Its pretty sad that an environment like that, which is generally so accepting and supportive is still such a frigthening environment for that barrier.

The whole groping, ass slapping, cross dressing (check out every mad monday ever) generally homo-erotic nature of footy clubs is, if anything an extension of and weird psuedo defence to the fact that alot of what happens at footy clubs is pretty homo-erotic. I never considered any of the (what on reflection is truly weird) behaviour we engaged in to be homosexual in nature and that includes all the stuff were now seeing with the AFL teams and more.

I think by nature, alot of pretty standard social norms are blurred in the footy club environment (communal showers are not standard practise many places outside of the footy club world) and thus alot of the behaviour looks truly bizarre and probably sexual and offensive to any one outside that bubble but i really dont think what we saw from the Saints and Tigers was sexual or racially motivated.
Angie Greene. Absolutely fantastic person. Worked with her a while, lots of respect.
 
My opinion is that hot weather sucks. I hate it. I dread it every year around the end of September. There’s nothing good about hot weather. The beach is messy, annoying, busy, there’s flies everywhere. The heat brings ants, mosquitos. There’s always bushfires. I hate people that get away in winter for ‘warmer weather’.

In summer people are like sheep. Predictable and annoying. They all go to the same places, everything is busier, everything is more expensive. Summer is grossly overrated. If I could id pack up and live in the UK for the winter then come back for our autumn to start of spring.

It’s also getting extreme weather wise, summer used to be ok because a hot day was 35. And extreme day was 38. Now a hot day is 41 and an extreme day is 47. I’ve no doubt this summer we will have some temperature breaking records in Melbourne.
I like Autumn and Spring the most in Qld
Winter is pretty good except for a random 2 weeks of too cold and Summer is OK again except for a random 2 weeks of too humid
But Spring and Autumn are just perfect
 
I see certain channels are still arguing the merits of cheese brand renaming. Which gave me pause for thought, to consider our trajectory.



So on that note; Scampaignerthorpe, how long?
 
My opinion is that hot weather sucks. I hate it. I dread it every year around the end of September. There’s nothing good about hot weather. The beach is messy, annoying, busy, there’s flies everywhere. The heat brings ants, mosquitos. There’s always bushfires. I hate people that get away in winter for ‘warmer weather’.

In summer people are like sheep. Predictable and annoying. They all go to the same places, everything is busier, everything is more expensive. Summer is grossly overrated. If I could id pack up and live in the UK for the winter then come back for our autumn to start of spring.

It’s also getting extreme weather wise, summer used to be ok because a hot day was 35. And extreme day was 38. Now a hot day is 41 and an extreme day is 47. I’ve no doubt this summer we will have some temperature breaking records in Melbourne.
I like it when it's 24ish during the day, comfortable shorts weather then cools down at night so you can sleep.
 

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